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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC regional experiences
« on: April 08, 2013, 10:36:24 pm »
I agree that the 2nd bottle was a huge win during judging.  I was able to pull flights from large categories when extra judges showed up, because the mini-BOS could be delayed until all flights finished with no detrimental effects.  Even during the bottle sort, the larger number of bottles wasn't that big of a deal, as we finished the sort in a little over 3 hours.
It did take 2x the space though.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: Judging at 2nd round NHC
« on: April 08, 2013, 07:08:05 pm »
It never hurts to volunteer to steward.  At the very least you will learn from more experienced judges and there is the possibility of sampling some of the beers.

I always try to make it a point to share beers with my stewards when I get an exceptionally good example of the style OR a very distinct classic example of an off flavor.  IMHO, those both offer the very best learning experience for everyone.

Steve

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I need a palate
« on: March 02, 2013, 02:47:56 am »
You can start by looking at the scheduled exams list on the BJCP web site, (http://www.bjcp.org/exams.php) and find an exam close by to you. If you contact the administrator far enough in advance, you might get one of the slots.  He also can help you to find a prep class in your area, or at least hook you up with a few others who can help you form a study group.  Even if you don't get on the primary list for the exam, you can still benefit by getting the training.

HTH-
Steve

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 questions
« on: December 08, 2012, 08:40:10 am »
Yes, there are always vendors at NHC.

Kathryn should be able to put you in contact with the right committee member.
She is one of the head honchos for all things NHC.

Kathryn Porter Drapeau <kathryn@brewersassociation.org>;

HTH-
Steve

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The Pub / Re: song title game
« on: December 01, 2012, 04:54:02 pm »
Building the Bridge - REO Speedwagon

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The Pub / Re: Howdy everybody!
« on: November 27, 2012, 11:05:17 pm »
I told you Steve, you can't join the A-Z club until you can say the entire name without looking. ;)

<hand covering eyes> the entire name </hand covering eyes>

There.  Fixed it.

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The Pub / Re: Howdy everybody!
« on: November 27, 2012, 08:52:43 pm »
Guess I'll say howdy here too.

Been homebrewing for about 10 yrs since my sister in law gave me a Mr. Beer kit for Christmas in 2002.
My wife is still pissed at her for creating a monster.
I'm in three of the clubs that Tom Schmidlin (A-Z counts, too, Tom) and got into the BJCP too.
I usually hang out on the BN Forum where I'm a post whore there along with Bugeater and theDarkSide.  I also have a few too many bazillion posts over on the Realbeer forum.

Looking forward to hanging here with you guys too.

Steve


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All Grain Brewing / Re: Topping off wort
« on: November 26, 2012, 09:44:18 pm »
One of the most common off-flavors that I run into when judging is chloro-phenols.  They taste like band-aids or have a medicinal quality to them, like chloro-septic.  A very common way to produce this off-flavor is to top up using chlorinated water right out of the tap, or to introduce chlorine through other means such as sanitizing with bleach (which used to be common but is far less common now).

Boiling is usually enough to drive off chlorine, but some cities use chloramine, which cannot be driven off even in the most vigorous boil.  A charcoal filter will remove chloramine, but only if it is filtered slowly enough.  Campden tablets will take both chlorine and chloramine out of the water.  They are extremely inexpensive.  One aspirin-sized tablet is enough to treat 20 gallons of water.

HTH- 
Steve

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: old ale vs winter warmer
« on: November 26, 2012, 09:30:50 pm »
19A. Old Ale

Aroma: Malty-sweet with fruity esters, often with a complex blend of dried-fruit, vinous, caramelly, molasses, nutty, toffee, treacle, and/or other specialty malt aromas. Some alcohol and oxidative notes are acceptable, akin to those found in Sherry or Port. Hop aromas not usually present due to extended aging.

Appearance: Light amber to very dark reddish-brown color (most are fairly dark). Age and oxidation may darken the beer further. May be almost opaque (if not, should be clear). Moderate to low cream- to light tan-colored head; may be adversely affected by alcohol and age.

Flavor: Medium to high malt character with a luscious malt complexity, often with nutty, caramelly and/or molasses-like flavors. Light chocolate or roasted malt flavors are optional, but should never be prominent. Balance is often malty-sweet, but may be well hopped (the impression of bitterness often depends on amount of aging). Moderate to high fruity esters are common, and may take on a dried-fruit or vinous character. The finish may vary from dry to somewhat sweet. Extended aging may contribute oxidative flavors similar to a fine old Sherry, Port or Madeira. Alcoholic strength should be evident, though not overwhelming. Diacetyl low to none. Some wood-aged or blended versions may have a lactic or Brettanomyces character; but this is optional and should not be too strong (enter as a specialty beer if it is).

Mouthfeel: Medium to full, chewy body, although older examples may be lower in body due to continued attenuation during conditioning. Alcohol warmth is often evident and always welcome. Low to moderate carbonation, depending on age and conditioning.

Overall Impression: An ale of significant alcoholic strength, bigger than strong bitters and brown porters, though usually not as strong or rich as barleywine. Usually tilted toward a sweeter, maltier balance. “It should be a warming beer of the type that is best drunk in half pints by a warm fire on a cold winter’s night” – Michael Jackson.

Comments: Strength and character varies widely. Fits in the style space between normal gravity beers (strong bitters, brown porters) and barleywines. Can include winter warmers, strong dark milds, strong (and perhaps darker) bitters, blended strong beers (stock ale blended with a mild or bitter), and lower gravity versions of English barleywines. Many English examples, particularly winter warmers, are lower than 6% ABV.

History: A traditional English ale style, mashed at higher temperatures than strong ales to reduce attenuation, then aged at the brewery after primary fermentation (similar to the process used for historical porters). Often had age-related character (lactic, Brett, oxidation, leather) associated with “stale” beers. Used as stock ales for blending or enjoyed at full strength (stale or stock refers to beers that were aged or stored for a significant period of time). Winter warmers are a more modern style that are maltier, fuller-bodied, often darker beers that may be a brewery’s winter seasonal special offering.

Ingredients: Generous quantities of well-modified pale malt (generally English in origin, though not necessarily so), along with judicious quantities of caramel malts and other specialty character malts. Some darker examples suggest that dark malts (e.g., chocolate, black malt) may be appropriate, though sparingly so as to avoid an overly roasted character. Adjuncts (such as molasses, treacle, invert sugar or dark sugar) are often used, as are starchy adjuncts (maize, flaked barley, wheat) and malt extracts. Hop variety is not as important, as the relative balance and aging process negate much of the varietal character. British ale yeast that has low attenuation, but can handle higher alcohol levels, is traditional.
Vital Statistics:
OG: 1.060 – 1.090
IBUs: 30 – 60
FG: 1.015 – 1.022
SRM: 10 – 22
ABV: 6 – 9%

Commercial Examples: Gale’s Prize Old Ale, Burton Bridge Olde Expensive, Marston Owd Roger, Greene King Olde Suffolk Ale , J.W. Lees Moonraker, Harviestoun Old Engine Oil, Fuller’s Vintage Ale, Harvey’s Elizabethan Ale, Theakston Old Peculier (peculiar at OG 1.057), Young's Winter Warmer, Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby Mild, Samuel Smith’s Winter Welcome, Fuller’s 1845, Fuller’s Old Winter Ale, Great Divide Hibernation Ale, Founders Curmudgeon, Cooperstown Pride of Milford Special Ale, Coniston Old Man Ale, Avery Old Jubilation

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21B. Christmas/Winter Specialty Spiced Beer

Aroma: A wide range of aromatics is possible, although many examples are reminiscent of Christmas cookies, gingerbread, English-type Christmas pudding, spruce trees, or mulling spices. Any combination of aromatics that suggests the holiday season is welcome. The base beer style often has a malty profile that supports the balanced presentation of the aromatics from spices and possibly other special ingredients. Additional fermentables (e.g., honey, molasses, maple syrup, etc.) may lend their own unique aromatics. Hop aromatics are often absent, subdued, or slightly spicy. Some fruit character (often of dried citrus peel, or dried fruit such as raisins or plums) is optional but acceptable. Alcohol aromatics may be found in some examples, but this character should be restrained. The overall aroma should be balanced and harmonious, and is often fairly complex and inviting.

Appearance: Generally medium amber to very dark brown (darker versions are more common). Usually clear, although darker versions may be virtually opaque. Some chill haze is acceptable. Generally has a well-formed head that is often off-white to tan.

Flavor: Many interpretations are possible; allow for brewer creativity as long as the resulting product is balanced and provides some spice presentation. Spices associated with the holiday season are typical (as mentioned in the Aroma section). The spices and optional fermentables should be supportive and blend well with the base beer style. Rich, malty and/or sweet malt-based flavors are common, and may include caramel, toast, nutty, or chocolate flavors. May include some dried fruit or dried fruit peel flavors such as raisin, plum, fig, orange peel or lemon peel. May include distinctive flavors from specific fermentables (molasses, honey, brown sugar, etc.), although these elements are not required. A light spruce or other evergreen tree character is optional but found in some examples. The wide range of special ingredients should be supportive and balanced, not so prominent as to overshadow the base beer. Bitterness and hop flavor are generally restrained so as to not interfere with the spices and special ingredients. Generally finishes rather full and satisfying, and often has some alcohol flavor. Roasted malt characteristics are rare, and not usually stronger than chocolate.

Mouthfeel: A wide range of interpretations is possible. Body is generally medium to full, and a certain malty chewiness is often present. Moderately low to moderately high carbonation is typical. Many examples will show some well-aged, warming alcohol content, but without being overly hot. The beers do not have to be overly strong to show some warming effects.

Overall Impression: A stronger, darker, spiced beer that often has a rich body and warming finish suggesting a good accompaniment for the cold winter season.

Comments: Overall balance is the key to presenting a well-made Christmas beer. The special ingredients should complement the base beer and not overwhelm it. The brewer should recognize that some combinations of base beer styles and special ingredients work well together while others do not make for harmonious combinations. THE ENTRANT MAY DECLARE AN UNDERLYING BEER STYLE AS WELL AS THE SPECIAL INGREDIENTS USED. THE BASE STYLE, SPICES OR OTHER INGREDIENTS NEED NOT BE IDENTIFIED. THE BEER MUST INCLUDE SPICES AND MAY INCLUDE OTHER FERMENTABLES (SUGARS, HONEY, MAPLE SYRUP, MOLASSES, TREACLE, ETC.) OR FRUIT. If the base beer is a classic style, the original style should come through in aroma and flavor. Whenever spices, herbs or additional fermentables are declared, each should be noticeable and distinctive in its own way (although not necessarily individually identifiable; balanced with the other ingredients is still critical). English-style Winter Warmers (some of which may be labeled Christmas Ales) are generally not spiced, and should be entered as Old Ales. Belgian-style Christmas ales should be entered as Belgian Specialty Ales (16E).

History: Throughout history, beer of a somewhat higher alcohol content and richness has been enjoyed during the winter holidays, when old friends get together to enjoy the season. Many breweries produce unique seasonal offerings that may be darker, stronger, spiced, or otherwise more characterful than their normal beers. Spiced versions are an American or Belgian tradition, since English or German breweries traditionally do not use spices in their beer.

Ingredients: Generally ales, although some dark strong lagers exist. Spices are required, and often include those evocative of the Christmas season (e.g., allspice, nutmeg, cinnamon, cloves, ginger) but any combination is possible and creativity is encouraged. Fruit peel (e.g., oranges, lemon) may be used, as may subtle additions of other fruits. May use a wide range of crystal-type malts, particularly those that add dark fruit or caramel flavors. Flavorful adjuncts are often used (e.g., molasses, treacle, invert sugar, brown sugar, honey, maple syrup, etc.).

Vital Statistics:
OG: Varies with base style
IBUs: Varies with base style
FG: Varies with base style
SRM: Varies with base style.  Usually somewhat dark.
ABV: Varies with base style.  Generally above 6%.

Commercial Examples: Anchor Our Special Ale, Harpoon Winter Warmer, Weyerbacher Winter Ale, Nils Oscar Julöl, Goose Island Christmas Ale, North Coast Wintertime Ale, Great Lakes Christmas Ale, Lakefront Holiday Spice Lager Beer, Samuel Adams Winter Lager, Troegs The Mad Elf, Jamtlands Julöl
 

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Last three batches terrible
« on: November 10, 2012, 11:38:16 am »
Have you disassembled the keg(s) completely and verified there are no places where rust has started coming in?  Perhaps you cut your dip tube and the end is rusting, or there's a scratch in there somewhere where there's a rusting process going on?  Even stainless can rust if it is cut/scratched with non-stainless steel tools and it is not re-passivated.

I think the idea to bottle some and keg the rest is a really good test. 

Is it possible that you over-oxygenating?  Jamil said in several podcasts over the years that too much O2 will produce fusely/metallic off flavors.  More than 2 minutes of pure 02 and you start affecting flavor.  Perhaps your mini-batch was not as oxygenated and therefore it didn't produce the off flavors?   You said you are attempting to get more attenuation and this may be playing into it.

I'll also add to the pile of suggestions to let a couple/few experienced palates evaluate it for you.

HTH-
Steve

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Question about styles
« on: April 27, 2012, 10:26:33 pm »
I'm getting ready to brew a Cream Ale using mostly six row and flaked maize with some vienna and pilsner thrown in. I'm using German Noble hops and an American Lager yeast, but I'll ferment it at 60F.

What will your mash schedule be?  Grain/hop bill sounds good to me.  Gonna be nice and malty/grainy.
You may want to consider doing a protein rest with all that 6 row.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Wheat beer mash schedule
« on: February 17, 2011, 10:52:22 pm »
A Bavarian Weizenbier is traditionally decocted.  The flavor benefits from ferulic acid formation at the 95-113F temp range, which promotes the banana/clove characteristic in the yeast profile (and it also helps lower pH for the mash as well as providing a tartness in the finish).  A 122F-131F step helps break proteins down to shorter chains for better head formation and retention. A beta rest (140s) helps develop fermentables and a 154F rest will provide dextrins and mouth feel.  All boil steps in a decoction bring forth melanoidan development which gives a maltier flavor profile and helps balance the aforementioned yeast characteristics without becoming overbearing. 

By comparison, American Wheats are quite tame in their flavor profile.  A step mash may help with head formation, but most American Wheats are fermented using either a Kolsch yeast or another clean/neutral yeast (often Cal Ale), which makes the style approachable by the "BMC" crowd as a crossover beer.  Basically, the idea is to keep the IBUs low, the yeast clean and neutral, and the malt sweet and bready, and therefore non-offensive.

HTH-

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All Grain Brewing / Re: fruity tasting pilsener??
« on: February 17, 2011, 08:38:30 pm »
This sounds like a water issue to me.  Lack of calcium and sulfates rounds the flavors and accentuates sweet malt and esters.
You didn't say where you are from, but here in WA, the rain/snow runoff in the spring contains much lower mineral content than other times of the year.  It's pretty amazing how fruity the beers can taste.   Did you have a relatively slow conversion in the mash tun when you brewed this?  I would not be surprised if you said yes.

Ward labs can help you with a water analysis report.  It may be as simple as adding a half a teaspoon of gypsum or calcium carbonate (depending on your water report) to adjust the mineral levels.

HTH-

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We need HELP!

The First round of the National Homebrew Competition is coming to Seattle on April 2, 2011!
We are expecting a record number of entries and are therefore looking for as many judges and stewards as
we can get to help with the 1st round judging of this competition. You don't
have to be a BJCP judge to participate. You just need a decent beer palate and be
reasonably familiar with different styles of Craft Beer. Don't worry, all
novice judges will be paired up with at least one experienced BJCP judge, so you
won't be left hanging. We are seeking stewards as well, so you can help out that way too.

You can help by pre-registering here: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/C735L5G

Thanks!
Steve Antoch
BJCP Master Judge
NHC NW Region 1st Round Judge Director

Side Note -- BJCP National Judge Mark Tanner and I will be presenting a short Beer
Judging seminar at the Cascade Brewer's Guild ExBEERience event which will be held at Redhook in
Woodinvlle on March 12. It's a great chance to get out and sample some great Craft Beer and Homebrew
and take in a small class on beer judging. I hope that all prospective Novice judges can stop by and take part.

http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/153508

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Looks pretty good.

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