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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Doomsday yeast vault?
« on: March 24, 2012, 07:34:58 PM »
I refuse to live in a world without 3787. My doomsday plan is a single bullet.

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I ordered some caustic potash so I'll try that on the next batch.

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Ingredients / Re: soaking oak chips in red wine
« on: March 23, 2012, 12:43:55 PM »
40% ethanol was bactericidal with a 1-2 minute contact time in this particular study and found a MIC of 10% for the aerobic bacteria tested and 8% for anaerobes.

Am I missing something? Here's what I saw "The aerobic and anaerobic MIC of ethanol for growth was 10 percent and 8 percent; 50 percent inhibition of growth rate occurred at 3.7 percent and 2.8 percent. Ethanol (40 percent) was bactericidal within 1-2 min, but 10 percent had almost no effect.

If I'm reading that correctly, at 10% you won't get bacterial growth, but it won't actually kill it. 80 proof will kill bacteria quickly, though.

So I guess the OP shouldn't count on the wine killing anything on the wood to begin with, and I can start using bourbon for mouthwash.

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Ingredients / Re: soaking oak chips in red wine
« on: March 23, 2012, 08:42:04 AM »
The optimal concentration of alcohol to kill most microbes is 70% (140 proof), but it is effective at a wide range of concentrations.

Do you have some reference for % bacteria killed vs alcohol % vs time? I'm still skeptical that 80 proof is actually adequate.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: metric nerdery please: calculation question
« on: March 22, 2012, 12:46:12 PM »
I'm pretty sure most of the probrewer world uses Plato, and wine guys use Brix.

The imperial system makes so little sense to me, I do all my measurements in metric. I couldn't tell you how many ounces are in 3 pints if my life depended on it.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Anyone else using Yeastcalc?
« on: March 22, 2012, 06:58:07 AM »
I would take slight issue with the use of the word doublings 35 b doubled twice is quite a bit more than 100b

In White and Zainasheff's Yeast they make the same mistake, using "doubling" when they meant "multiplication factor." They do that in a few places throughout the book, so I wonder if that's just some yeast guy convention that makes no sense. 

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In case anyone else wants to try using calcium hydroxide, I'd say use with caution. I ended up using a bit too much and the mead ended up seriously insipid/flat from low acidity. It had a pretty strong "mineral" fault. My wife said it tasted like a pepto bismol chew tab.

FWIW I ended up adding about 0.75g/L over the course of fermentation to keep the pH in the proper range. This is equivalent to adding about 400ppm of Ca.

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Equipment and Software / Anyone else using Yeastcalc?
« on: March 21, 2012, 06:03:14 PM »
This: http://www.yeastcalc.com/index.html

After futzing with Sean Terrill's MrMalty instructions for stepped starters for a few batches, getting annoyed and calculating them out by hand, someone pointed me to a calculator that figures the steps out for me!

This is probably old news for you guys, but in case it isn't, check it out.

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Ingredients / How much and when - Nelson for a Brut?
« on: March 21, 2012, 02:33:27 PM »
I'm making a Belgian Brut-style beer right now, and want to dry hop with Nelson Sauvin. It's oaking right now. Should I wait until it gets closer to bottling time to dry hop it, or should I dry hop it now? How much should I use? I haven't dry-hopped any Belgian beers before, and don't want to overdo it. I'm planning on bottling it around the end of April.

EDIT: I'm thinking 2oz, one week from bottling. Does that sound reasonable?

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Ingredients / Re: soaking oak chips in red wine
« on: March 21, 2012, 08:40:57 AM »
You need a really high proof alcohol to "sanitize" with. IIRC it's like 180 proof. Regular spirits will retard growth of bacteria, but won't kill all bacteria it contacts. That said, in a Flanders Red you've probably already infected that beer with whatever sorts of bugs you might get from the oak, so in this case I wouldn't worry about it.

In general, I'd say add the most flavorful spirit you can find to beer. I've used good whiskey and cheap whiskey, and can definitely tell a difference in the finished product. So use a wine that has a good flavor profile. If you wouldn't drink it straight, don't add it to your beer. 

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Going Pro / Re: Another view about commercial Nano brewing.
« on: March 21, 2012, 08:31:26 AM »
They're doing some pretty interesting things with saisons and funky beers. I believe he's an alt prop with Funkwerks

As an aside, Funkwerks made the most disappointing beer I've ever tried. It was ok, but uninspired. A pretty run-of-the-mill Saison. I tried their New Zealand-hopped version too, which was better, but also unremarkable. I expected so much more from a brewery called "Funkwerks."

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Going Pro / Re: Another view about commercial Nano brewing.
« on: March 20, 2012, 02:49:12 PM »
I don't know how successful he is money wise, but he makes a mean saison. I picked up a bottle when I was in Colorado, and it was tasty.

He's started since I moved from Denver. If I were still there, I'd probably get a Reserve membership. I'm heading out in May for a friend's wedding, so I'll pick up some of his bottles.

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I'm mostly German too, but I've been very indifferent about a lot of issues lately.

It's hard for tone to come across on the internet. I was (mostly) joking.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: A simple, Kosher alternative to gelatin
« on: March 20, 2012, 11:52:32 AM »
No problem with bottling cold. You can let it warm up if that's easier. Just remember to calculate residual CO2 based on the highest temp the beer was ever at. I made that mistake on my Koelsch, and it ended up way flatter than I wanted.

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Going Pro / Re: Looking into starting a meadery
« on: March 20, 2012, 11:46:58 AM »
Nothing new to report, except more run-around, more people saying "oh, I don't do that, you want this guy." But I think I've found the person I need to talk to. I'll try calling them tomorrow.

I didn't plan on it being this difficult to determine who is actually in charge of regulating wineries.

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