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Kegging and Bottling / Re: Ideal bottle conditioning temp

« on: May 22, 2013, 08:04:48 PM »

Quote from: a10t2 on May 19, 2013, 10:04:16 AM

30°C (86°F) is pretty standard for breweries that bottle condition. You're definitely in the ballpark.

That is shocking, I had no idea it would be that high. I freaked out alittle when mine went up to 75.

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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat

« on: May 22, 2013, 09:33:33 AM »

Quote from: AmandaK on May 22, 2013, 09:10:52 AM

Edit: here's some more research...
http://beerpulse.com/2013/05/magic-hat-calls-bs-on-west-sixths-media-campaign-after-lawsuit-407/

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In letters proposing a resolution to avoid a court case, West Sixth Brewing agreed to:

1. Remove the design element that mirrors Magic Hat’s #9 starburst/dingbat star packaging;

See now this is an important point that wasn't in West Sixth's blog post. Like I said in my last post I could see this being a problem, and its easily fixed.

If West Sixth's intentions were for the star to be a compass point you could scale it to fill the entire bg of the circle turning the whole logo into a compass.

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2. Use and promote the wording West Sixth Brewing in conjunction with the design (Magic Hat agrees that this will help eliminate confusion);

3. Work in good faith to phase out and replace any existing materials that may contain the prior version of the encircled “6” design;

These 2 are absolutely ridiculous to me, nowhere on Magic Hat's packaging is there a 9 in a circle. If all those abstract wavy lines are considered a circle they need their heads examined.

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The Pub / Re: West Sixth vs Magic Hat

« on: May 22, 2013, 09:22:55 AM »

The mere fact that you have to explain and manipulate the images in order to show how similiar they are works in West Sixth's favor. The typefaces are nowhere near identical and I think most of you are getting caught up in the idea of "hey, a 6 is just an upsidedown 9 right?!". They are about as similar as a shark is to a dolphin. Sure they both have tails and fins and swim in the ocean but that's where it ends.

I'm not a lawyer, but as a designer, I would jump at the chance to argue this in court infront of a jury. I would take a laptop, hook it up to a nice big LCD screen or projector and using photoshop, go thru the steps it would take to convert one logo into the other, finishing with <sarcasm>And that's all you have to do to make them similar.</sarcasm>.

*Law & Order closing theme*

P.S. I think one contentious point could be the star symbol but it seems more ornamental in Mag Hat's case and more part of the story or theme in West Sixth's.

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The Pub / West Sixth vs Magic Hat

« on: May 21, 2013, 01:36:14 PM »

I've honestly never liked any of magic hat's beer (my wife likes their christmas beer tho) but if this is true I like them even less as a company now...

This is from West Sixth's website so we're only hearing one side of it but their logos look nothing alike to me.

Whole article here

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Beers for the non-craft drinker

« on: May 15, 2013, 08:26:48 AM »

A cream ale is the lightest I've tried to make so far and it went over well. I think this summer i might make a blonde ale or a farmhouse.

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The Pub / Re: NTSB Recommends 0.05% BAC Limit

« on: May 15, 2013, 08:11:03 AM »

Quote from: guido on May 15, 2013, 07:34:58 AM

The government claims they want to lower the limit to save lives and protect us from ourselves, but their true agenda has always been zero tolerance and Big Brother controlling yet another aspect of our lives.

Don't forget the amount of money the gov makes off of the people that are caught. The court costs, fines, insurance premiums, license fees, etc.

Let's not fool ourselves into thinking that the same gov that builds billion-dollar weapons to kill people thousand of miles away really gives a s*** about saving a few people on the highway. Its about money, everything is.

Lower limits = higher likelihood of more offenders, its that simple.

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The Pub / Re: NTSB Recommends 0.05% BAC Limit

« on: May 15, 2013, 08:05:25 AM »

All these numbers are pretty meaningless to me, I honestly have no idea what the difference of .05 and .08 feels like. I know when I'm buzzed and I know when I'm drunk and I certainly know when I'm wasted, but how that correlates to the numbers is beyond me.

I'd really like to get a breathalizer at some point and test it out over a few hours to get a better understanding of it. In fact, maybe that should become part of the driver training curriculum. I could see going to a training class at an airport or somewhere similar, drinking X Alchohol over X Time and then driving thru a road course, or even a simulator, to test reaction times at different drunkenness levels. I know I've seen this done on TV but maybe everyone should get to do it.

This leads me to another aspect of this whole conversation. I've always believed that driving tests in the US are way too easy. Knowing how to parallel park and make a K-Turn is a joke in the grand scheme of driving. I think everyone should be subjected to a few different courses, maybe even over a few days.

I was really lucky that my dad and grandfather both took the time to teach me the skills i really needed for driving on the road. They would take me to this bus depot parking lot when it was raining and make me spin the car on purpose to get a grasp of what it was like to lose control of the vehicle, how to avoid it and how to recover from it. They also did this with 2 different cars in both the rain and the snow and I have to tell you, the first time you do it its scary as hell but after 4 or 5 times it becomes natural to just turn into the skid and recover from it. And when that skid happens in the real world, and it will, you won't panic, you'll just react.

Just think about what you learned in your driving class and what its really like on the road. Its a huge difference and unfortunately it takes time to build up the experience needed to actually be a good competent driver.

Can you imagine if we let people fly planes with the same amount of training?

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The Pub / Re: Best TV theme song

« on: May 14, 2013, 09:37:02 PM »

Quote from: majorvices on April 28, 2013, 07:07:55 PM

My vote goes to "Angela" the Theme song to Taxi.

I'm with ya on that one brother, i'd also like to add these to my favorites list:

Barney Miller
Night Court
Hogan's Heroes
Mission: Impossible
S.W.A.T.
Fraggle Rock
Benny Hill
Hawaii Five-O
Baretta

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