« on: April 11, 2010, 08:50:53 AM »
The weather was beautiful yesterday, so I decided to do the decoction on the pils. Everything turned out great... can't wait for summer!
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And if you can't get a Saison to dry out using an all malt grainbill then you are either A, having fermentation issues, or B, only make strong saisons. I personally prefer a lower gravity saison and it's quite easy to get an all malt grainbill in the 1.040s to finish at or below 1.005 without sugar. Usually a long and low single infusion mash is all that is necessary. If, on the other hand, I am trying to make something stronger, then sure, simple sugar is the way to do it and still have a dry product. But it's far from a requirement in every Saison brewed.
Next, try getting Siason dry enough without the sugar additions.....It won't happen. I didn't tell him how much just that he will need to add them mid ferment and not at boil. While you may make your siason without, it would be better and dryer with.
Kai -- why the protein rest for the Helles? I was thinking of doing a decoction Hochkurz mash (145 - 158) for a German Pilsner next weekend since I figured that a) long boiling of the decoction wasn't necessary and b) the protein rest would be unnecessary and maybe even detrimental. What do you think about this?
The more I read about this the more am I torn between being pro or con protein rest. I brought up the Hochkurz mash as an elegant way of doing decoctions w/o protein rests. However, I haven't done experiments yet where I evaluated the impact of a protein rest. A few reputable brewers have and some of them reported the the protein rest yielded a better beer. This is in contrast to the brewers who report the opposite which report the opposite. At this point I just use it on some beers and not on others w/o having a strong position on its usefulness.
So a refined question would be, if whales were sustainably farmed in similar (albeit underwater) circumstances as other domesticated animals like cows/chickens/pigs, would you eat that whale meat?
Do you actually believe that cows\chickens\pigs are sustainably farmed?
According to the same micro professor, they were both known human pathogens, and though they were not especially harmful to a healthy individual they could potentially be harmful to someone with a distressed immune system.