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All Grain Brewing / Split batch questions
« on: May 18, 2013, 07:58:39 pm »
I want to brew tomorrow, well everyday, but I am planning on brewing tomorrow.  My pipeline is getting dangerously low due to kid and work functions so I want to do a double batch instead of a back to back brew day.   My goal is to brew a 10 gallon batch and split it into 2 beers, one Hefeweizen and one Dunkelweizen.  I have a nice fresh wash of WL Hefeweizen ready to go, and the malt is ready to be crushed first thing in the am, but I am not sure the best way to approach this.  I usually use my ten gallon kettle for 5 gallon batches, but this time I think I am going to use my buddy's keggle.  I also have access to a second mash tun and I am not sure how to accomplish this.  Anybody have any pointers?

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Beer Recipes / Re: Pilsner Malt for hoppy blonde?
« on: May 08, 2013, 03:55:57 pm »
Thanks for all the input, I should have mentioned that I do NOT have enough MO or Munich to use entirely, I will post back w the recipe!

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Beer Recipes / Pilsner Malt for hoppy blonde?
« on: May 07, 2013, 02:05:55 pm »
I live in a rural area and the nearest LHBS is an hour away and I am out of base malts, except for Pilsner.  I have the urge for a hoppy brew for the nice weather and want to brew on Thursday, can I make a decent IPA-ish brew with Pilsner as the main malt?  I have plenty of specialty malts, some MO, Munich, Crystals, etc to play with as well. 

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Need Some Serious Help
« on: May 01, 2013, 02:13:46 pm »
Here is the last batch I made, a little better, but not near where it should be. 

IPA Test 3
American IPA
Type: All Grain Date: 3/29/2013
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal Brewer: Opposition Brewing Co. 
Boil Size: 8.97 gal Asst Brewer: 
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: My All grain Setup
End of Boil Volume 7.28 gal Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal Est Mash Efficiency 91.6 %
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0
Taste Notes: 
Ingredients
 

Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
6.40 g Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 1 -
2.10 g Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 mins) Water Agent 2 -
5 lbs Golden Promise (Simpsons) (2.0 SRM) Grain 3 45.5 %
5 lbs Pale Malt (Weyermann) (3.3 SRM) Grain 4 45.5 %
8.0 oz Carapils 6-Row (Briess) (1.3 SRM) Grain 5 4.5 %
8.0 oz Munich Dark 30L (Gambrinus) (35.0 SRM) Grain 6 4.5 %
1.00 oz Chinook [11.80 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 7 34.2 IBUs
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 18.7 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 13.7 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [7.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 10 3.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [7.50 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 min Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min
 
I dry hopped w 1.5 oz Simcoe and 1 oz. Cascade for 5 days, cold crashed for 2 days, purged keg and racked.  Still has that familiar muddled, dirty flavor and nose.  The beer tasted great going into the keg, I am wondering if the carbonation process is doing something?  My next brew I might bottle half and keg half to see if that does any good.  I am running out of ideas!

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Kegging and Bottling / Re: IPA and Co2
« on: May 01, 2013, 01:48:54 pm »
Seems to just be IPA's, can't get one to taste right at all, so frustrated! 

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Kegging and Bottling / IPA and Co2
« on: April 25, 2013, 02:53:42 pm »
Ok, so I have posted a few threads trying to nail down why my IPA's taste like crap and have worked through all the different suggestions and come to the conclusion that something is happening at kegging time.  I have adjusted hops, malts, yeasts and water profiles and end up with the same-ish results.  I just did a batch with Chinook, Simcoe and Cascade and it tasted really really nice after I cold crashed and was racking to a purged keg.  When I pulled a sample from the keg, the beer does not even resemble what was in the carboy.  I purged with co2 and made sure there was no splashing of oxygen flowing in the tube.  Keg was just cleaned and rinsed with StarSan (cleaned w PBW 1st) and lines were just cleaned.  My question is this could it be the gas I am using?  I get mine from a welding shop here in town.  It is the only variable I have left!

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Kegging and Bottling / Fruit Saison help
« on: April 20, 2013, 02:56:56 pm »
I have a Saison that I spiked with Brett C and then added Saturn Peaches too. the peaches have been in for 6 months and the samples are amazing! It has a nice pellice on top right now which I am not worried about, but between the yeast/trub layer on the bottom, I have a weird layer of what I can only assume is fruit flesh/residue. This is a split batch, so the carboy is only a little less than half filled, and I want to bottle this. What is the best way to settle this fruit out so I can rack a clean beer? I have the ability to cold crash, have some gelatin, have some isinglass, etc. Can anyone help me out?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Hop Temp Question
« on: April 04, 2013, 02:09:59 pm »
My last IPA, good one!  I didn't have those additions planned as contributing any and bitterness so that part should be ok, there was an additional 5oz. in the boil so I hope it turns out ok. 

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All Grain Brewing / Hop Temp Question
« on: April 04, 2013, 08:00:38 am »
Making my last IPA, I wanted to chill to about 175 and then do a hop stand, but thanks to my kiddos by the time I got back to chill it was 120ish.  I tossed the hops in anyway, any idea how this will affect the beer?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Need Some Serious Help
« on: March 28, 2013, 09:21:59 am »
Thanks for all the replies!  I  have used MO before and I am fine with the flavor, also I have tried several different base malts and the flavor change is not really that noticeable.  I do not notice diacetyl flavor, well the buttery or butterscotch flavor, but the vague dirty grassy flavor seems to fit.  As for the British yeast, it performed pretty well and I had similar results using other clean American strains. 

So here is my plan.  Simple grain bill, I'll have to look at what I have on hand for base malts, but base malt some Dk Munich instead of C40 and bitter with something other than CTZ, maybe Chinnok?  Then add 2 oz hops at 10,5 and then the chill to 175 and 2 more ozs, using Cascade and Simcoe.  Let the last addition stand for 3o mins then chill and pitch.  Leave in primary for what, 3 weeks then keg?  thinking no dry hops this time to see if that is where I am getting some off flavors?  What do you think?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Need Some Serious Help
« on: March 27, 2013, 09:37:02 pm »
This was my second shot at the water modification, so I appreciate the clarification on the competing components.  I am drinking one of the latest IPA's right now, and it's getting better than some of the last ones.  I am thinking oxygenation is a factor as well, I don't know why I never thought of that!  Thinking now about drilling a hole in a spare corny keg lid and fermenting in there and then I could push to another with zero oxygen exposure.  I read in Mitch Steele's book about getting the beer off the trub as soon as possible and that is why I tried the secondary thing for a bit, but I think I might go back to primary only and eliminate a racking step.  As for the amount of boil trub in the fermentor, I get plenty, especially in hoppy beers that use pellets, I just try to minimize.  I also forgot to mention that last time I used yeast nutrient as well. 

     I am thinking this time lowering gravity to around 1.050 or maybe lower and tryng something on the edge of a pale ale, session IPA, IPA.  I get some hops in this beer, just not the flavor and clarity I am looking for.  I wonder if I lower gravity and increase my hops to say an ounce @60, 3oz @ 10 ins, 3 oz @ flameout and dryhop with 4 oz if I might get a better result?   I have had several comments that say I should go all RO water and just add small amount of gypsum to the mash, is that worth trying?  Thanks for chiming in, I appreciate the help. 

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Need Some Serious Help
« on: March 27, 2013, 03:13:41 pm »
here are more details:

Details-

     My system is a 10 gallon cooler with false bottom, good ol turkey burner, and a 10 gallon SS pot with bazooka tube.  I have a plate chiller, but in the winter I use my immersion chiller.  I crush my own grains with a monster mill, could the crush being to fine be an issue w tannins?  I use Beersmith for all my recipes and Bru'n water for additions.  I just bought a ph meter but I have not used it yet.  Per Bru'n water my ph was 5.3.  I also have been using RO water with salt additions  but I have used tap and straight RO with very similar results.   The beers I have made with tap/RO that are not hoppy have had no sign of this issue.  I have 5 batches of sours going for about 6-7 months and they are tasting awesome, my dunkelweisse is nearly perfect, as w my wit, etc. 

On brewday I crush while my MT and water heat and then I mash in, usually half the grain then water then grain, etc.  I usually shoot to mash around 152ish and am pretty close.  Mash for 60 mins, drain and then batch sparge, although I have fly sparged as well.  I have added near boiling water, 168 water, 180 water and all have the same(or extremely similar) results.  I vourlaf until the wort is consistently clear, usually still some floaters, but as clear as I can get on this setup.  Add the sparge water stir like crazy, wait 10 mins or so and repeat the vourlaf and drain.  I boil for 60 mins.  and have no issue getting a nice hard boil, after a good hot break I add the 60 min hops and then go as the recipe follows.  I mostly use pellets.  I whirlpool for a little bit after flameout hops the best I can, screen and thermometer in kettle make it a little tough, but it works some.  Chill like normal and drain, I have been running a bit of wort out right away and hen as it is clear moving the hose to carboy to collect.  I use a fishpump setup to oxygenate and then pitch yeast.  I chill to right around 60-65 depending on temps in my basement and I pitch the appropriate amount of healthy yeast, per yeast calc.  I use mostly liquid yeast and make starters with a stirplate, I have used a ton of different yeasts, and all seem to have the same result in this situation.  Although I am leaning toward British/London ale lately.  I ferment as close to recommended temps as I can using a swamp cooler, but generally my basement allows me to get within a few degrees and hold it. I have tried leaving the beer in the primary for the duration including dry hops, but lately have been racking as soon as the bulk of primary fermentation is over to get it off the trub and then dry hopping.  Dry hops are at room temp for a minimum of 5 days and I have gone as long as 10, similar results.  I rack using an autosiphon into the carbot for dry hops and then into the corney keg to be purged and sealed. 

     I have used Centennial, Simcoe, Amarillo, CTZ, Warrior, Chinnok, etc.  I just got a fresh 6 oz. each of Simcoe, Mosaic, Cascade and Citra, all from HopUnion ordered for me from my new supply guy, stored in a cooler(like a reach in cooler) for 2 days until I put them in the freezer. 

I am not careful about post fermentation oxygen pick up, I use the autosiphon and go right into keg or carboy.  As for yeast, I figure what I need for the gravity and then make an appropriate starter. 

Last recipe was this:

7lbs Marris Otter
4lbs Briess Pale Ale Malt
8oz Acid Malt
8oz C40

.60oz CTZ @ 60min
1 oz Amarillo @ 15
1oz Simcoe @ 10
1oz Amarillo @ 5
1 oz Simcoe @ 0
Dry hop oz each for 6 days

MAsh salts-  4.4g gypsum
                   2.2 Cal Chloride
                   1.1 pickling lime

                    8.4g gypsum
                    3.3 cal chloride
last 2 in the kettle after sparge

nailed preboil gravity and SG. 

That is all I can think of for now.  I am not sure what variable to attack.  I plan to brew this Friday as the weather here (Carroll, Iowa) is turning awesome.  I have the above hops and some Nugget, Summit and random Germans.  I have a ton of malts to choose from, thinking of dropping the C40 in lieu of some lt or dk Munich.  Thinking I will bitter with CTZ and then use Simcoe and Cascade.  I was thinking I would measure every variable I can this time, mash temps, ph, sparge temps, etc.  Although I do not think it is that since the rest of the beers are solid.  I mean the dunkel weisse  was so good I have made it 3 times in the last 3 months, lol.  I can't seem to wrap my head around what the issue is here other than these; water chemistry, hops-old, amounts, etc, and now oxygenation.  I do have about 10 unused corneys right now and some spare time and I want to get this figured out so I can drink IPA all the time. 



Denny, any idea?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Need Some Serious Help
« on: March 27, 2013, 03:07:04 pm »
Repo- 
     I already use all RO water and I am not looking to throw a bunch more hops into a beer that is going to suck.  the problem is not the amount of hop flavor as it is more the hop flavor is off.  If it was a pale ale like tasting beer, I would gladly just add more hops.  I pitch appropriate yeast per yeast calc and fement in a swamp cooler until the bulf of primary fermentation is done and then move to 2ndary for dry hop usually 2-3 weeks total.  Although I have gone as far as 4-5 weeks. 

     I appreciate the ideas, just not sure I want to start tossing a ton of hops into the beers until they are better flavored.  Even if they were not hoppy enough but clean I would consider that a win at this point. 

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Need Some Serious Help
« on: March 27, 2013, 08:28:41 am »
This is the recipe I tried this last time, and I used Bru'n water to calculate my water additions.  It is a bit better, but still not even close to a good IPA.  I notice this time there is not enough bitterness, just a taste i have a hard time identifying, like it is dirty, I almost get a celery seed like flavor and the aroma is seriously lacking.  I don't know what to do next!  I brewed a Kolsch 2 days after this and it is almost perfect, so I am confused what the variable that is ruining these IPA's could be. 

I just ordered some new hops from HopUnion; Cascade, Simcoe, Mosaic and some other randoms.  I am going to try one more time with new hops and see what I get.  I added salts to my mash, and then to the kettle, per the Bru'n water sheet, I do not have them handy, but Martin did email me and say it looked good.  Can I adjust the mash with salts and then use straight RO water for the sparge? 
Test Batch (IPA) 2
American IPA
Type: All Grain Date: 2/8/2013
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal Brewer: Copper TrÖff
Boil Size: 8.41 gal Asst Brewer: 
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My All grain Setup
End of Boil Volume 7.28 gal Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 5.00 gal Est Mash Efficiency 91.6 %
Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0
Taste Notes: 
Ingredients
 

Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
7 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 58.3 %
4 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 33.3 %
8.0 oz Acid Malt (3.0 SRM) Grain 3 4.2 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.2 %
0.60 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [15.20 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 25.1 IBUs
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.20 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 11.2 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [12.20 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 7 12.2 IBUs
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.20 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 8 4.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [12.20 %] - Boil 0.0 min
 

Looking to brew on Friday, any help would be great.  Any ideas on that odd flavor or what is causing the lack of aroma and flavor?  I did dry hop for 6 days with 2 ozs. 

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Need Some Serious Help
« on: March 19, 2013, 08:14:44 am »
Well, I kegged it up and seem to have the same results, a little better beer, but not good by any means.  the hop flavor is seriously lacking and still has that dirty muddled taste to it.  I am really lost here, I love hoppy beers and can't get anything decent in my area without a 1 hr drive and this is killing me.  Only been on co2 for 2 days, so i will continue to taste, but this is headed in the same direction of all the other IPA's I make. 

    Could it be from the force carbing or maybe my crush?  If I have to much flour maybe getting a lot of tannic acid?  Anybody want to help me figure this out again?

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