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I met Sam and Randle at a Sunshine Challenge a few years back.   I found Sam to be very friendly and generous to all of us in attendance.  I consider myself fortunate for the experience.
Me, too.  If you went on the pub crawl, he did his Brewer Rap on stage at one of the bars.  Hilarious!

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I've met Sam and found him to be really nice and fun to be around.  When he's promoting his beer, though he is all about the promotions.  He managed to create a buzz at one of the AHA conferences a few years ago by spreading a rumor that he'd have a "special" cask of beer at 10:00PM.  At 9:45 there was a line at his booth 15 people deep.
I did not, however, appreciate his seminar at last year's NHC.  It was titled something like extreme brewing, I think, but was really a film all about Palo Santo beer.
<edit> Here's another take on the I Am a Craft Brewer video:
http://www.youtube.com/v/qszwet2fz5w?fs=1&hl=en_US
 

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Adding Hops Before Boil Start/Hot Break
« on: November 11, 2010, 01:37:41 pm »
Other than FWH, I always start my hop additions after the hot break.  The idea is that the break will coat the hops and reduce utilization.  I don't know if there's scientific basis in that, but it makes sense and isn't hard to do.
That does make sense, I guess.  I always wondered why the BU calculation for FWH was less than for a full boil addition.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Adding Hops Before Boil Start/Hot Break
« on: November 11, 2010, 10:48:46 am »
Last night I was brewing and figured why not add the hops as I was bringing the wort up to boil, before boil and hotbreak.  Worked ok and seemed to prevent a big hot break (though honestly I was sidetracked and wasn't paying that much attention).

Today I see that Palmer recommends adding the hops after the HB: http://www.howtobrew.com/section1/chapter7-2.html

Online I read that this might result in reduced precipitation of proteins and phenols resulting in a cloudier final product.  I've also read the concern of leaving too much hop material on the kettle walls (this didn't seem to be an issue).  I was using whole hops so I wasn't able to notice a shortage of trub.

Even with a vigorous fermentation should I expect more haze and phenol character in the final beer? 



Adding hops to the wort as you are bringing it to a boil is called first wort hopping.  I do it on almost all the beers I make that I want to accent the hop's flavor.  Promash has a calculation for the IBU's for this, which is a bit less than the IBU's from a 60 minute addition.
It will have absolutely no effect on beer clarity.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Black Ale recipe
« on: November 10, 2010, 02:34:28 pm »
I never really thought about the hype that exsists over this debate but it definitely strikes a chord in the homebrewing community.

Perhaps we can all agree that its a dark beer.  8)

I've only been homebrewing about 8 years.  Was there copntroversy like this as other styles were introduced?
I've noticed some around other styles, and it usually comes about when a proposed name favors one region over another for a new (as opposed to historical) style of beer.  A lot of people around here call it a CDA, so I go with that.  But if you call it a Black IPA they still know what you're talking about.  Even India Black Ale is understood, but IBA is too easy to confuse with IPA or India Brown Ale.

All I care about in a style name is:  Is it easily confused with another?  Will it succinctly give me a description of the beer?

Tom's absolutely right.  If I go into a brewpub and see CDA on the board, up until recently (when Zymurgy came out a couple months ago) I wouldn't have any idea what sort of beer I'd be getting.  I would certainly know what to expect if ordering a Black IPA.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 4 cases of soured witt beer
« on: November 10, 2010, 12:32:14 pm »
Wit beers tend to be best when young, but I heard Charlie P. say once that coriander may have preservative qualities. 
The beer may also have some sourish flavors from a normal witbier yeast.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 4 cases of soured witt beer
« on: November 10, 2010, 07:41:35 am »
He didn't actually say it was a homebrew.  Could it be 4 cases of Boulevard Zon Wit?
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/423/3278

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Odd precipitate
« on: November 08, 2010, 06:04:59 pm »
I'm not sure what you have there, but it sounds almost like something we were recently discussing:
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=4318.0
Could there be an epidemic of ropiness?


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All Things Food / Re: Pizza Fatta en Casa
« on: November 08, 2010, 10:44:27 am »
In Tampa there are a couple of local, independent Pizza shops that make both N.Y. thin crust and Chicago style pies, but we also have something else, which I just googled and found out it's name is Scachatta.  It's got a thick crust, usually has a ground meet topping with very little tomato sauce and I don't remember it having any cheese.  Generally served cold in squares.  I don't think I've seen it anywhere else, but I don't get out to Italian restaurants very often.  bouef

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The Pub / Re: Any Motorcycle riders?
« on: November 08, 2010, 05:18:08 am »
I still have the same bike I bought in 1978, a '71 BMW R75/5.  I think I've ridden it 20 miles in the past three or four years.  It looks nice, mostly restored.  Maybe I'll get the carbs working properly and ride it some before it gets too cold.

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The Pub / Re: Daylight savings
« on: November 07, 2010, 12:46:11 pm »
Waking up the lazy french people since 1784.

Hey!!! We had our DST LAST week, thank you very much. Nous avons changé l'heure d'été la semaine dernière; j'ai à nouveau la lumière du jour pour ma paresse matin. BOUEF.
I plugged that into babelfish and it said:
We changed l' hour d' summer last week; j' again have light of day for my idleness morning. BOUEF.

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Other Fermentables / Re: braggot
« on: November 07, 2010, 12:28:52 pm »
corkybstewart, what are your thoughts on the dry mead yeast?  Have you made a mead or braggot on ale yeast? What honey did you use for the porter/braggot? 

jeffy, how was the smoked braggot?  I can see that being pretty damn good.  Sounds like your methods aren’t far off from what I do.

Thanks for the responses so far.  Looks like I might have to do the wine yeast experiment and just see what happens. 


That smoke braggot was one of the most memorable beverages I've ever made.  I smoked the malt over citrus wood, made a triple decocted beer (mid amber color), added 12 pounds of some really funky looking caramelized orange blossom honey with pieces of honey comb in it, and fermented it with California Lager yeast.  I think it took a bronze at the final round Nationals a long time ago.  Everybody in the Florida competition "circuit" remembers that braggot even though it's been about 15 years since I made it.
I'll have to make that again some day, but it was a lot of work the way I did it.  I'm sure it could be simplified by using commercial smoked malt and not overdoing the decoction process.
I have one bottle of that left from November, 1995.

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Other Fermentables / Re: braggot
« on: November 06, 2010, 06:42:49 pm »
I've made a few.  I will usually make 10 gallons of wort, ferment a bit more than half of the batch as the base beer and add a gallon of honey to the other, smaller half and pitch a strong culture of beer yeast onto that.  No boil, just put the honey directly onto the 4 gallons of wort left in the kettle, stir and chill.
The braggot I'm currently enjoying is based on a Baltic Porter, so the O.G. was pretty high at 1.136 (four gallons of Baltic Porter wort and a gallon of honey), but it fermented well using a big pitch of lager yeast and fermented down to 1.030.  It's a year old now and tastes pretty darned good.
My previous braggot was the same technique with Bock wort.  Before that I was all about the world's only smoked braggot.
I like to use beer yeast (ale or lager depending on the base style) and I like to force carbonate it after it has aged properly.

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We had about 10 people brewing at the Tampa Learn to Brew Day.  I made 10 gallons of Dort Export.  Beautiful day for a brew.

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Kegging and Bottling / Re: Kegging and CO2 refills/purchase
« on: November 05, 2010, 03:05:43 pm »
That sucks man.  :(

Since I prime and carbonate the beer in the keg now and just use the tank to push the beer my usage has gone way down. I filled my #5 tank back February and still have about 700psi in it.  ;D
Well, that's why I trade instead of fill :)
Really the only reason to refill a tank is if you have a nice, clean, new, shiny tank that you're proud to own.  It's what's inside that counts.  I exchange mine at the local welding supply shop.  The fire extinguisher company near me was not a bargain because they had to send them out (probably to the welding supply place).

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