Interesting. Get some flavor but more bitterness? Can you explain?
I perceive about the same amount of bittering from FWH as I do from a 20 min. addition. Now, that's not a hard and fast number and everybody who FWH needs to decide for themselves. But to me, FWH doesn't provide the same amount and quality of bitterness as a 60 min, addition. I decide how much hop flavor I want and how much FWH I need to achieve that. Then I look at how much bitterness that adds (counted as a 20 min. addition) and add enough 50 min. hops to hit the IBU I want.
Thanks Denny. That's interesting. I'll have to pay more attention to my FWH additions and the end result. I use BeerTools and it keeps the bitterness the same.
Edit: I thought FWH just added some more flavor.....
FWIW, and i don't want to detract this poor guys thread, but that in my experience is incorrect. Starting about a year ago, I began FWHing as the only addition to my german lagers and I have never once perceived that I needed more bitterness. I agree with the enhanced hop flavor and a smoother, less harshly edged bitterness, but the bite doesn't change.
In fact, I recently won a gold for my vienna where the sole improvement noted by both judges was that I might consider reducing the bittering a bit. The hop was Mittlefruh, 20 ibus calculated at 90 minutes and designated as FWH (so it adds 10% more utilization than a 90 min boil addition).