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All Things Food / Re: Growing food - The Garden Thread
« on: March 12, 2013, 06:30:35 am »
we finally got rid of this annoying yucca, and last weekend I started framing out a 6x3x5 chicken coop. We also got some more lavender to plant on the last side of the deck that doesn't have anything growing. Other than that it'll be a while before we can really start growing anything - it's gonna be cold and rainy for another month or two.

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All Things Food / Re: FryDaddy Fodder
« on: March 07, 2013, 10:07:14 am »
Take a date (pitted), medjoul preferred, wrap in a wonton wrapper (the small kind). Deep fry until the wrapper is crisp, then transfer to a bowl. toss liberally with za'atar. Nom!

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All Things Food / Re: BBQ Style
« on: March 07, 2013, 07:11:59 am »
Figure this is relevant... Trying to organize a KCBS event in Paris. I'd love to hear if any of you guys have done those before, and what your thoughts are.

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Events / NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: March 02, 2013, 12:07:20 am »
Quote from: AmandaK
As an aside, dropping the BJCP requirement will not improve the quality of anything. I have stacks upon stacks of score sheets from non-BJCP "Experienced Judges" that say things like Aroma: smoke. Flavor: Smoke. Mouthfeel: Good.  These are things I am not looking for when I pay upwards of $12 an entry plus shipping.

As I said in my previous post, there would be 2 comps, one for technical review and one for enjoyment/pleasure. You would not use the same scoresheet for both.

The overall issue as I see it is not one of quality but of quantity. You need more rear ends in seats, tasting comp entries, you do that by modifying the way comps are done. I'd like to take a moment to remind everyone that just because you're BJCP doesn't mean you're going to be an excellent judge, and just because you don't have BJCP doesn't mean you're going to do a crap job on judging.

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: March 01, 2013, 07:38:06 am »
TL;DR: Get rid of the current competition system. Replace it with two separate comps, one which is judging/feedback ONLY (no winning awards) and another which is ONLY awards, but with no categories. BOS-type stuff.

Sounds like you might be due for a local brewclub meeting.... I doubt many people would invest any time to submit a beer or participate in that idea.

I'm founder & president of the Paris Homebrewers Club, so I attend every meeting. And funny enough, this is exactly the sort of comp structure we use.

Under the homebrew club umbrella that's pretty typical thing to have going on - and hats off to your club for doing that.... Anyone who is/has been in a homebrew club usually grows tired of having their beer judged in that environment and wants something more. Nationally it won't work especially when you consider the costs and time for something like that.

I dunno - it sounds like, unless I misunderstood, that the real problem is the lack of judges overall. If you drop the BJCP requirement (and the categories), you could have anybody come in who had a reasonable knowledge of beer.

Going even futher I think it might be interesting to even have complete beer noobs do judging, as long as they're open to trying stuff that might be 'different' from what they are used to.

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Well, hey, if you like technical comps so much, it would also perhaps work to have regionals be 100% bjcp with a 10-entry limit (or something), and then the national comp would be BOS. You could also have the option to skip regionals on the tech level and submit exactly 1 beer into the national BOS competition, that way regionals don't get crowded out with one-submission entries that may or may not be categorized correctly.

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: March 01, 2013, 07:17:38 am »

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: March 01, 2013, 06:58:03 am »
If anything this thread has me not looking forward to the day that I move back to the US and have to join a club, if they're anything as competitive as the way some people are making them look. What ever happend to RDWHAHB?

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That would be a pretty good name for the NHC comp: The RDWHAHB Grand Prize. For reals though, guys, I am not a fan of having a vocal minority sucking all the fun out of a hobby. Not saying there aren't problems that need to be corrected, but...

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: March 01, 2013, 06:57:06 am »
TL;DR: Get rid of the current competition system. Replace it with two separate comps, one which is judging/feedback ONLY (no winning awards) and another which is ONLY awards, but with no categories. BOS-type stuff.

Sounds like you might be due for a local brewclub meeting.... I doubt many people would invest any time to submit a beer or participate in that idea.

I'm founder & president of the Paris Homebrewers Club, so I attend every meeting. And funny enough, this is exactly the sort of comp structure we use.

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: March 01, 2013, 04:30:38 am »
I have two things to say about all this, the first is related to comps, and the second is technical and I need to do a bit more research first so I'll post that later. The first part:

TL;DR: Get rid of the current competition system. Replace it with two separate comps, one which is judging/feedback ONLY (no winning awards) and another which is ONLY awards, but with no categories. BOS-type stuff.

OK now long-form: It seems to me that there are two camps when it comes to these comps. Those who are looking for feedback on their beers, to help improve, and those who want to win awards. There is of course crossover between the two groups, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who only want feedback and don't care about awards (me, for example) and there are also plenty of people who only want to win awards and are confident in their brewing practices etc.

The problem as I see it is that not enough of either group are getting to do what they want to do. We can fix this by creating two separate judging events, one technical, one 'pleasure.'

The technical judging event would include all 38 flavors (or whatever) of BJCP categories. Each beer would be judged by a BJCP-certified judge, and scored according to BJCP guidelines. I would say a bit of 'you should try doing X to improve this beer' would be warranted in the feedback section. Anybody who wanted to get feedback on their beers would be able to do so, and you'd probably see MORE entries because you take away the competitive element that might scare some people away. Judged, but not JUDGED, as it were.

Now here's where I may get into toe-stepping-on-territory: The other event - the taste- and pleasure-oriented competition - would use exactly zero BJCP guidelines. None. You enter whatever beers you think are your best, regardless of style, perceived flaws, etc. Your beers will be judged along the lines of: "Is this a beer that I'd like to share with my friends?" "If I saw that a pub had this on draft, would I go out of my way to stop by and have a pint?" "Does this beer inspire me?" Judges would not need to have BJCP certification, and thus anybody could volunteer to judge. Obviously they would need to have an appreciation of beer, and would need to try to be open to any style of beer, but there's no reason why they'd have to have passed any test. This sort of competition could also potentially serve as a bit of evangelism for the BJCP program as a whole - you show people, who would never have normally considered doing BJCP, that judging can be fun, and get them interested, and get them on the BJCP exam track, and then eventually they can become technical judges.

I think that only allowing the 'pleasure' contest to be allowed to earn awards would actually do a lot for advancing our hobby. People would not feel bound to any specific category, and creating a new award for 'most innovative homebrew' would get people thinking about how they could approach the creation of interesting beer, as opposed to beer that matches an arbitrary style. This is NOT to say that I think BJCP guidelines are worthless, far from it. For people either exploring a style, or trying to increase their technical proficiency, fixed goals like that are excellent. I wouldn't have learned how to make lagers if it hadn't been for the CAP subcategory, nor would I have known what to have expected when drinking it afterwards, due to the lack of any examples out in my neck of the woods.

I have two anecdotes as pertains to the idea of dropping categories for award-eligible brews:

The first comes from my friend Laurent, who is the former president of the European Beer Consumers Union, and has judged in just about every contest known to man. We have gone back and forth over categories for about two years now, and he has always taken then anti-category stance. I used to be firmly in the categories4evah camp, but he's slowly warmed me up to the other side. So the other day, he told me about a horrific judging session he did (I think it was @ GABF) where it was time to judge category 21A. Everybody and their mother had decided to enter a Pumpkin beer. After the first sample, every beer tasted pretty much the same. A page came up with water & crackers during a break and said, "Hey guys, having fun?" and Laurent said he told the page that he'd be happy to trade places (or that he wanted to slap the guy in the face, I can't remember which one). After a while everything tasted like some mixture of cinnamon, clove, or allspice. There was just one beer that was truly interesting, an imperial stout with an aroma that was actually roast pumpkin, and not pumpkin pie. Just one beer like that, out of 35 or so. He told me that as he saw it, that was the problem with categories, that everybody eventually ends up submitting the same beer. Great for education, bad for competitions.

The second comes from Garrett Oliver, who told me about a time he was judging the grand final for GABF alongside Michael Jackson. Michael asked everybody to quiet down for a moment and told them he wanted to say something before they started judging.

He said (I paraphrase here): "I want to tell you a story about my very first beer experience. I lived in a little village in England and there was this pub that everyone absolutely adored. It seemed like the entire town would come out to drink their beer on Friday or Saturday nights.

The atmosphere was amazing, the people were wonderful, but of course the main reason everybody had come together and created this atmosphere was the beer. The bar, and the beer itself, had a smell that would stick to you, permeate your clothes, and the next morning the lingering smell could bring back smiles when you would remember the time you spent with friends the night before.

Now, once I started really getting into beer, and understanding things like 'styles' and 'faults' and 'off-flavors,' I discovered where that smell had come from - the smell that everyone in my village associated with a fun place to have a good pint and enjoy the company of friends. And that smell was diacetyl.

So I would just like to ask you, when you go to judge these world-calibre beers, to keep in mind that experience, and ask yourself a little more of, "is this a beer that I would go out of my way to share with friends?" and a little less of "this beer has 0.075 microns of ethyl acetate."

That's my $0.02 anyway.

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: February 28, 2013, 09:26:17 am »
There are two separate issues here.  Obviously, demand has been increasing every year... all regions filled up within 3 days last year, and a few hours this year.  There has been lots of discussion on how to fix this.

The other problem is that the registration software that the AHA switched to this year is garbage.  It's unacceptable to have unqualified people hacking together technology like this.   Looking at the "company" behind it (zkdigital.com), it's some guy in Colorado who probably knows people in the beer world but lacks any technical background other than some web design skills.  You need to be licensed to do my taxes but any random guy can still write server software?  C'mon, it's 2012.

I'll put on my business hat for a second and say, if the AHA needs somebody to redo their systems for this, I am currently lead developer for a group of sites that each get ~60k hits per day, or about 40 connections per minute. And that's a slow day. I'd love to volunteer a bit of time to help build something nicer.

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: February 27, 2013, 09:37:28 am »
It would be fairly easy, if not done already, to associate your AHA member number with your entry requests. From there you create a system wherein you get a certain number of entries allowed per membership 'age' in years, with rollover. Everybody gets 3 to start, for example, and people who haven't entered before get priority over those who have entered every year.

Or something like that.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Lager Woes
« on: February 25, 2013, 07:17:34 am »


Make sure you skim that gunk off the top. You don't want this to fall back into the beer.

Kai

Kai, is that not krausen? Do you skim lager krausen then?

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Lager Woes
« on: February 25, 2013, 06:31:06 am »
Yeah, it's my first "proper" lager (I once used Bohemian yeast at a higher temp and basically treated it like an ale). Patience it is.

Think it'll be ready in time for the Toer? Save me some.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Lager Woes
« on: February 25, 2013, 02:47:44 am »
I'm trying to relax.

Here's the latest:
So yesterday, one week after my first pitch, I checked the gravity. The beer smells and tastes like good hopped wort, but the gravity hasn't changed. Also, it foams up with barely a bump and there's a layer of stuff on top (see pic). What's the consensus? Continue to be patient or raise the temp and throw in a packet of SA-05? Oh, the wort is resting at just above 51 degrees F.



That looks like kreusen to me. Is this your first lager? Every time I do one it takes fooooorever to get booted up.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f163/lager-yeast-question-141965/

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The Pub / Re: Pub blather
« on: February 22, 2013, 02:36:19 am »
I got a boil that looks like Elvis!

That's what happens when you use a Banjo burner.

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