### Author Topic: Am I mathematically challenged?  (Read 2126 times)

#### Titanium Brewing

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##### Am I mathematically challenged?
« on: January 08, 2013, 11:15:50 PM »
So I've getting into the juicy part of the book, "For the Love of hops", the recipes. I came a cross a recipe that simply perplexed me, New Zealand Pale Ale (page 248). For some reason I can't really figure out the grain bill.

75% Pale malt
10% Munich
8% Caramalt
2% Pale Crystal malt

Oh well, I probably won't get my hands on any Wai-ti this year anyways.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2013, 08:58:35 AM by Titanium Brewing »
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#### dbeechum

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2013, 09:16:28 AM »
Howdy,

Percentage recipes like what you posted are all about getting numbers across in a way that lets you adjust for your system efficiency.

So what you do what that sort of recipe is this: Take the efficiency of your system (say 70%) and the target OG (say 1.050) and figure out roughly how much grain would take to get you that gravity at your efficiency.

So take Pale Malt (1.036 points per pound) and multiply by your efficiency (.7) to get how effective grain is for you.

36*.7 = 25

Divide your target gravity by that number

50 / 25 = 2

So you need ~2 lbs per gallon of grain or 10 lbs for a 5 gallon batch.

10 * .75 = 7.5 lbs Pale Malt
10 * .10 = 1 lb Munich Malt
10 * .08 = 0.8 lb Caramalt
10 * .02 = 0.2 lb Pale Crystal Malt

Round as needed.
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#### mabrungard

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2013, 09:45:37 AM »
What is the remaining 5% mystery grain?  The recipe only added up to 95%
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#### nateo

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2013, 10:15:21 AM »
What is the remaining 5% mystery grain?  The recipe only added up to 95%

It's a "choose your own adventure" recipe.
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#### Alewyfe

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 10:56:16 AM »
What is the remaining 5% mystery grain?  The recipe only added up to 95%
It's a Heironymystery.
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#### erockrph

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2013, 11:30:07 AM »
What is the remaining 5% mystery grain?  The recipe only added up to 95%
It's a Heironymystery.

I don't have my copy in front of me, but I remember seeing a recipe that had a percentage of simple sugar to be added late that was listed separate from the grain bill - I wonder if this is the one.
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#### tschmidlin

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2013, 11:39:40 AM »
What is the remaining 5% mystery grain?  The recipe only added up to 95%
It's a Heironymystery.

I don't have my copy in front of me, but I remember seeing a recipe that had a percentage of simple sugar to be added late that was listed separate from the grain bill - I wonder if this is the one.
It's not.  You could either make it 80% pale malt (I would) or you can adjust all of them slightly to hit 100%.
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#### stanhieronymus

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2013, 08:20:24 AM »
What is the remaining 5% mystery grain?  The recipe only added up to 95%
It's a Heironymystery.

I don't have my copy in front of me, but I remember seeing a recipe that had a percentage of simple sugar to be added late that was listed separate from the grain bill - I wonder if this is the one.
It's not.  You could either make it 80% pale malt (I would) or you can adjust all of them slightly to hit 100%.

The missing 5% is torrified wheat or malted wheat

#### kgs

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2013, 08:41:11 AM »
What is the remaining 5% mystery grain?  The recipe only added up to 95%
It's a Heironymystery.

I don't have my copy in front of me, but I remember seeing a recipe that had a percentage of simple sugar to be added late that was listed separate from the grain bill - I wonder if this is the one.
It's not.  You could either make it 80% pale malt (I would) or you can adjust all of them slightly to hit 100%.

The missing 5% is torrified wheat or malted wheat

Yes -- http://twitter.com/StanHieronymus/status/289754222243766274

It would be nice if the publisher created an errata page for this and other books.
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#### nateo

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2013, 08:51:36 AM »
Yes -- http://twitter.com/StanHieronymus/status/289754222243766274

It would be nice if the publisher created an errata page for this and other books.

IIRC Stan had an errata page on his website for his previous two.
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#### morticaixavier

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2013, 08:57:25 AM »
What is the remaining 5% mystery grain?  The recipe only added up to 95%
It's a Heironymystery.

I don't have my copy in front of me, but I remember seeing a recipe that had a percentage of simple sugar to be added late that was listed separate from the grain bill - I wonder if this is the one.
It's not.  You could either make it 80% pale malt (I would) or you can adjust all of them slightly to hit 100%.

The missing 5% is torrified wheat or malted wheat

Yes -- http://twitter.com/StanHieronymus/status/289754222243766274

It would be nice if the publisher created an errata page for this and other books.

who needs an errata page when the author will just come on here to enlighten us?

Thanks for taking the time Stan!
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#### stanhieronymus

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2013, 09:00:09 AM »
What is the remaining 5% mystery grain?  The recipe only added up to 95%
It's a Heironymystery.

I don't have my copy in front of me, but I remember seeing a recipe that had a percentage of simple sugar to be added late that was listed separate from the grain bill - I wonder if this is the one.
It's not.  You could either make it 80% pale malt (I would) or you can adjust all of them slightly to hit 100%.

The missing 5% is torrified wheat or malted wheat

Yes -- http://twitter.com/StanHieronymus/status/289754222243766274

It would be nice if the publisher created an errata page for this and other books.

who needs an errata page when the author will just come on here to enlighten us?

Thanks for taking the time Stan!

Personal apologies are always good, if humbling, but an errata page is also essential. That or don't make the dang mistakes to begin with.

#### tschmidlin

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2013, 10:12:39 AM »
What is the remaining 5% mystery grain?  The recipe only added up to 95%
It's a Heironymystery.

I don't have my copy in front of me, but I remember seeing a recipe that had a percentage of simple sugar to be added late that was listed separate from the grain bill - I wonder if this is the one.
It's not.  You could either make it 80% pale malt (I would) or you can adjust all of them slightly to hit 100%.

The missing 5% is torrified wheat or malted wheat
I'm not sure this guy has any idea what he's talking about

Thanks for the fix Stan
Tom Schmidlin

#### Titanium Brewing

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##### Re: Am I mathematically challenged?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2013, 10:44:39 AM »
Thank you very much Stan.
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