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Liquid sub for Danstar Nottingham?

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Pinski:
I'm going to be helping a friend brew a recipe of his choice that calls for Danstar Nottingham but I'd rather use liquid yeast that I have access to in greater quantity without the need of making a starter.  Any thoughts on substituting with Wyeast 1318 or 1968? I haven't heard of or seen a "liquid equivalent" for Nottingham.

hopfenundmalz:
White Labs has a seasonal that is liquid Nottingham. Too lazy to see when.

morticaixavier:
Not a direct answer to your question but the danstar nottingham is a dry yeast right? I don't think you need, or want for that matter, to make a starter with that. Unless you only have one packet and are brewing 10-20 gallon batch. but for a 'normal' gravity (1.050ish) 5 gallon batch one packet of nottingham rehydrated in warm water will be plenty.

If it is a british ale Ordinary bitter ESB thing I think that the 1968 is great. it works fast and thouroughly. It clears nicely but it does produce a fair amount of diacetyl in the process. So you might want to bring the temp up a few degrees at the end to clean that up. Haven't tried the 1318.

Pinski:

--- Quote from: morticaixavier on January 25, 2013, 08:52:06 AM ---Not a direct answer to your question but the danstar nottingham is a dry yeast right? I don't think you need, or want for that matter, to make a starter with that. Unless you only have one packet and are brewing 10-20 gallon batch. but for a 'normal' gravity (1.050ish) 5 gallon batch one packet of nottingham rehydrated in warm water will be plenty.

If it is a british ale Ordinary bitter ESB thing I think that the 1968 is great. it works fast and thouroughly. It clears nicely but it does produce a fair amount of diacetyl in the process. So you might want to bring the temp up a few degrees at the end to clean that up. Haven't tried the 1318.

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Yes, the Nottingham I'm aware of is dry so I wouldn't make a starter with it.  The reason I mention 1968 and 1318 is that I can get enough of those strains that I wouldn't have to make a starter for them either.  This is for a 25 gallon batch. I've used the 1318 and liked it, haven't tried 1968. Good to know about the diacetyl.  Thanks Mort!

morticaixavier:

--- Quote from: Pinski on January 25, 2013, 09:03:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: morticaixavier on January 25, 2013, 08:52:06 AM ---Not a direct answer to your question but the danstar nottingham is a dry yeast right? I don't think you need, or want for that matter, to make a starter with that. Unless you only have one packet and are brewing 10-20 gallon batch. but for a 'normal' gravity (1.050ish) 5 gallon batch one packet of nottingham rehydrated in warm water will be plenty.

If it is a british ale Ordinary bitter ESB thing I think that the 1968 is great. it works fast and thouroughly. It clears nicely but it does produce a fair amount of diacetyl in the process. So you might want to bring the temp up a few degrees at the end to clean that up. Haven't tried the 1318.

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Yes, the Nottingham I'm aware of is dry so I wouldn't make a starter with it.  The reason I mention 1968 and 1318 is that I can get enough of those strains that I wouldn't have to make a starter for them either.  This is for a 25 gallon batch. I've used the 1318 and liked it, haven't tried 1968. Good to know about the diacetyl.  Thanks Mort!

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Ahh I see. yeah I really like 1968

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