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Offline Hokerer

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Weyerman CaraWheat?
« on: October 05, 2010, 07:28:09 am »
The swag from the latest comp included a pound of Weyerman CaraWheat.  Had been thinking about a Dunkelweizen anyways so would CaraWheat be good in one of those?

Probably take my Hefeweizen recipe (Pils + Wheat) and replace a pound of the regular wheat with CaraWheat.  Would also need to replace some (all?) of the Pils with Munich.  Maybe replace some of that with enough CaraMunich II or III to get the color where it should be?

Thoughts?
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2010, 09:54:06 am »
I think I would only replace 1/2 or 3/4 of the pils with dark munch and leave the rest as pils.  The I'd add some carafa special II to get the color, maybe an ounce or two.  I'd be afraid that adding enough Caramunich to get the color right would leave it too sweet, but that's just me.  If you like it sweeter, go for it.
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2010, 10:43:34 am »
By German law it's usually 50-70% malted wheat and the balance Vienna and Munich.  The soft wheat flavor as well as the richness from the Vienna and Munich is typically complementary to the yeast driven flavor and aroma of this fine German beer.

If you add some (edit: Carawheat) it might lend too much sweetness.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2010, 12:32:23 pm by bluesman »
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2010, 12:10:27 pm »
Well, the CaraWheat is malted wheat so I'm good with the 50-75% part.  I think I agree with both of you that the CaraMunich would make it too sweet so I'll whack that.  My only concern then would be can I get to color to what it should be with just the Munich and Vienna (or do I need a couple ounces of Carafa Special).  Guess I'll have to play around with things in BeerSmith this evening.
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2010, 12:18:36 pm »
Like I said, I'd add the carafe special II, but it depends on what color is going to make you happy.  Play with the recipe tonight and let us know what you come up with.
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2010, 03:32:45 pm »
Looks like you have the recipe about figured out; I just wanted to assure you that the carawheat will be good in the dunkelweizen.  FYI, It's nice in Pale Ales as well. Cheers,  j
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2010, 08:24:30 pm »
Ok, this looks like it'll get everything within the ranges for the style...

Dunkelweizen
Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.50 gal 
Boil Time: 60 min 
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00
 
Ingredients
 
Amount Item Type % or IBU
4 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.8 SRM) Grain 43.84 %
2 lbs Munich Malt - Dark (15.5 SRM) Grain 21.92 %
2 lbs Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (1.6 SRM) Grain 21.92 %
1 lbs Carawheat (Weyermann) (50.0 SRM) Grain 10.96 %
2.0 oz Carafa Special II (Weyermann) (430.0 SRM) Grain 1.37 %
1.00 oz Hallertauer 3.6 [3.60 %] (60 min) Hops 11.9 IBU
0.50 oz Hallertauer 3.6 [3.60 %] (15 min) Hops 2.9 IBU
1 Pkgs Weihenstephan Weizen (Wyeast Labs #3068) Yeast-Wheat 
 
Beer Profile
 
Est Original Gravity: 1.051 SG (1.044-1.056)
Est Final Gravity: 1.012 SG  (1.010-1.014)
Est Alcohol by Vol: 5.00 % (4.30-5.60)
Est Bitterness: 14.8 IBU (10.0-18.0)
Est Color: 14.4 SRM (14.0-23.0)
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2010, 08:33:59 pm »
Looks like a winner.  Let us know how the carawheat works,  I'm curious to learn if it lends any significant sweetness.  I'm guessing it should work well per style.  What was the calculated SRM?
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2010, 10:27:01 pm »
Looks good - now double the wheat, munich, and pils malts and make a big wheat dopplebock :)
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2010, 07:28:51 am »
Quote from: bluesman on October 05, 2010, 08:33:59 pm
What was the calculated SRM?

14.4 SRM per the last line in the above...

"Est Color: 14.4 SRM (14.0-23.0)"
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2010, 07:33:40 am »
Quote from: hokerer on October 06, 2010, 07:28:51 am
Quote from: bluesman on October 05, 2010, 08:33:59 pm
What was the calculated SRM?

14.4 SRM per the last line in the above...

"Est Color: 14.4 SRM (14.0-23.0)"

Sorry. I was having a bluesman moment.  ::)
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2010, 06:32:45 pm »
Nice looking recipe.

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1 lbs Carawheat (Weyermann) (50.0 SRM) Grain 10.96 %

11 % of 50 L should give you nice sweetness (something like Cara Munich 2).
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2010, 10:59:16 am »
Did you ever brew this recipe? How did it turn out?
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2010, 12:35:42 pm »
Quote from: dano14041 on December 06, 2010, 10:59:16 am
Did you ever brew this recipe? How did it turn out?

Not yet, it's on the schedule for some time in the next month or two
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Re: Weyerman CaraWheat?
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2010, 11:14:59 pm »
You definitely won't regret the CaraWheat addition. Love that stuff!  :-* 
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