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Title: White Castles and Beer
Post by: tomsawyer on December 22, 2011, 04:50:18 PM
Sliders and beer, whoppers and beer, beer makes everything better.

http://www.delish.com/food/recalls-reviews/white-castle-tests-beer-and-wine
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: euge on December 22, 2011, 07:02:17 PM
This is a good idea even though I've never tasted a White Castle slider. Alcohol sales should be 24 hours IMO. And sold everywhere.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: Mark G on December 22, 2011, 08:23:45 PM
I don't think White Castle will sell you sliders if you're sober, or at least they shouldn't, so beer fits perfectly on their menu.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: tonyp on December 22, 2011, 08:31:26 PM
mmmm murder burgers and beer...
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: tschmidlin on December 22, 2011, 09:02:25 PM
I think anyone eating at White Castle is probably drunk enough already.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: theDarkSide on December 22, 2011, 09:07:38 PM
Never had White Castle but the friggin' movie always makes me hungry...maybe it's a contact high.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on December 22, 2011, 09:09:41 PM
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j137/mattschwandt/image.jpg)
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: denny on December 22, 2011, 09:26:14 PM
At NHC in Minneapolis (IIRC) one of the booths was serving White Castle burgers.  I had a hard time only eating a couple.  Forbidden fruit, I guess...
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: jeffy on December 22, 2011, 09:27:58 PM
At NHC in Minneapolis (IIRC) one of the booths was serving White Castle burgers.  I had a hard time only eating a couple.  Forbidden fruit, I guess...

They were still warm, too.  That was a nice treat.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: tschmidlin on December 22, 2011, 10:27:59 PM
I totally chowed those things in Minn.  They were awesome. ;D
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: punatic on December 23, 2011, 08:50:32 AM
Sliders?  misnomer...  Gut Bombs!
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: tomsawyer on December 23, 2011, 01:19:54 PM
The cooking method is key, it steams the bun and soaks up every bit of grease.  Plus its just fun to order a six pack.

Last time I was there I ordered double burgers, don't do that.  There is no perceived benefit to doubling a number that is approaching zero.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: bluesman on December 23, 2011, 02:41:05 PM
I've never eaten them fresh from a WC, but I've had them like this (warmed of course) out of shear curiosity.

(http://emol.org/virtualmall/whitecastlehamburgers/B00032IW82.01-A3CDPEGSIQM61V.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: bo on December 23, 2011, 03:14:07 PM
I had some years ago, but quite honestly don't see the reason that people just love them. It's a dinner roll with a little meat and some chopped onions. Nothing to go out of the way for, in my opinion. I'd order a $1 double cheese burger from McDonald's before I would any of these. I don't even think a beer, and definitely not a glass of wine, would help much.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: noonancm on December 23, 2011, 04:18:54 PM
As a connoisseur of sliders, I must come to the defense White Castles.
Their sliders are excellant. Recent years have seen other restaurants attempt to replicate the slider without compare.
Their fries,
Their coffee (some of the finest in the land).

And where else can you see all walks of life including the rich coming together in the middle of the night.

And now serving beer. It is like dying and going to heaven.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: euge on December 23, 2011, 07:02:10 PM
It's a dinner roll with a little meat and some chopped onions. Nothing to go out of the way for, in my opinion.

Ive wondered about that. Looks like they quarter a hamburger patty and divide it between 4 little greasy sandwiches. Then charge more. Might be a reason why they aren't sold around here in the land of the taco.

Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: tonyp on December 23, 2011, 10:15:56 PM
It's a dinner roll with a little meat and some chopped onions.

yeah and beer is just water with alcohol in it...
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: bo on December 23, 2011, 11:03:29 PM
It's a dinner roll with a little meat and some chopped onions.

yeah and beer is just water, grain, and hops with alcohol in it...

Fixed it.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: punatic on December 24, 2011, 04:30:33 AM
Around cattle ranches "sliders" are not hamburgers.  Perhaps that's where WC gut bombs got their nickname from.  ;)
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: realbeerguy on December 24, 2011, 12:48:59 PM
I had some years ago, but quite honestly don't see the reason that people just love them. It's a dinner roll with a little meat and some chopped onions. Nothing to go out of the way for, in my opinion. I'd order a $1 double cheese burger from McDonald's before I would any of these. I don't even think a beer, and definitely not a glass of wine, would help much.

You must have had them during a sober moment.  Nothing better than a sack of Cheese Assassins at 3 AM.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: tomsawyer on December 24, 2011, 11:07:34 PM
I too don't see how wine fits into the slider phenomenon.

At my house we have Lennie burgers, they are a slightly flattened 1lb grilled meatball on a bun.  They are the antithesis of WC, but each has its place.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: oscarvan on December 25, 2011, 12:17:56 PM
The Environmental Protection Agency in 1991 obtained a restraining order for life against me, prohibiting me from coming within 100 feet of a White Castle.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: The Professor on December 25, 2011, 05:47:04 PM


There's a local place here, near Rutgers University, called White Rose System...an old school  diner-like place that has been there for more than 70 years from what I'm told (and it hasn't changed one bit at least in the last 40 or 50 years!).   

"The System", as the place is known locally,  always appeared to be staffed by an ever changing rotation of ex-convicts.    The place is, to this day, always busy day and night filled with people jonesing for their grease fix.  Don't take that as a negative...thier buregers are quite good.
They make a cheap, unpretentious,  but delicious burger that definitely beats out places like 5 Guys, Red Robin, and other burger specialty chains that seem to be popping up like weeds these days.

"The System" uses the old concept of putting a meatball (around 3 ounces) onto the grill which is covered with a bed of onions, and squashed down flat when it hits the grill (which is evidently  how White Castle originally did it back in the 1920's).   Besides the burgers, their pork roll-egg-cheese sandwiches are legendary (and as "New Jersey" as it gets).

Part of my college career was spent at Rutgers, and I can remember (in a hazy sort of way) many 3am visits to "The System" 37 years ago  chowing down on their food as a 'sobering up' aid.  Those little heart attacks (served on a paper plate) seemed to have magical properties.  LOL.
 ;D
..Good times...(insert belch here)
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: jeffy on December 25, 2011, 05:58:11 PM
I had some years ago, but quite honestly don't see the reason that people just love them. It's a dinner roll with a little meat and some chopped onions. Nothing to go out of the way for, in my opinion. I'd order a $1 double cheese burger from McDonald's before I would any of these. I don't even think a beer, and definitely not a glass of wine, would help much.

You must have had them during a sober moment.  Nothing better than a sack of Cheese Assassins at 3 AM.

Actually there's one thing that is at least equally as good, but it's a local thing from Cincinnati.  Cheese coneys really hit a spot after the bars close down.  This is a small hot dog, the bun slathered with a bit of yellow mustard, topped with thin Cincinnati chili and covered with a small mountain of shredded cheddar cheese.  Three is the correct amount.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: tomsawyer on December 25, 2011, 06:04:31 PM
Actually there's one thing that is at least equally as good, but it's a local thing from Cincinnati.  Cheese coneys really hit a spot after the bars close down.  This is a small hot dog, the bun slathered with a bit of yellow mustard, topped with thin Cincinnati chili and covered with a small mountain of shredded cheddar cheese.  Three is the correct amount.
What, no onion?
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: noonancm on December 25, 2011, 08:08:23 PM
Yes, you can get onions, And they are called skyliners to be gotten at Skyline Chili.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: bluesman on December 26, 2011, 04:03:10 AM
Actually there's one thing that is at least equally as good, but it's a local thing from Cincinnati.  Cheese coneys really hit a spot after the bars close down.  This is a small hot dog, the bun slathered with a bit of yellow mustard, topped with thin Cincinnati chili and covered with a small mountain of shredded cheddar cheese.  Three is the correct amount.
What, no onion?

I don't know but onion sounds good on a coney.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: tschmidlin on December 27, 2011, 06:19:10 AM
Sounds like the Greekers we used to eat in college - definitely with onions.

(http://www.roadfood.com/photos/mini_14947.jpg)
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: jeffy on December 27, 2011, 12:12:24 PM
Much more cheese.
http://www.skylinechili.com/signature.php
Oh, and onions are part of the charm.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: realbeerguy on December 27, 2011, 04:20:28 PM


There's a local place here, near Rutgers University, called White Rose System...an old school  diner-like place that has been there for more than 70 years from what I'm told (and it hasn't changed one bit at least in the last 40 or 50 years!).   

"The System", as the place is known locally,  always appeared to be staffed by an ever changing rotation of ex-convicts.    The place is, to this day, always busy day and night filled with people jonesing for their grease fix.  Don't take that as a negative...thier buregers are quite good.
They make a cheap, unpretentious,  but delicious burger that definitely beats out places like 5 Guys, Red Robin, and other burger specialty chains that seem to be popping up like weeds these days.

"The System" uses the old concept of putting a meatball (around 3 ounces) onto the grill which is covered with a bed of onions, and squashed down flat when it hits the grill (which is evidently  how White Castle originally did it back in the 1920's).   Besides the burgers, their pork roll-egg-cheese sandwiches are legendary (and as "New Jersey" as it gets).

Part of my college career was spent at Rutgers, and I can remember (in a hazy sort of way) many 3am visits to "The System" 37 years ago  chowing down on their food as a 'sobering up' aid.  Those little heart attacks (served on a paper plate) seemed to have magical properties.  LOL.
 ;D
..Good times...(insert belch here)

Al,  Where's the one in New Brunswick?  I just know of the White Rose in Linden.

We had the White Diamond in Clark &  Westfield.  Same concept, some toothless Southern cook saying "Y'all want 'taters wit dem eggs?"
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: punatic on December 27, 2011, 05:49:35 PM
We had the White Diamond in Clark &  Westfield.  Same concept, some toothless Southern cook saying "Y'all want 'taters wit dem eggs?"

That's Southern Joisy, right?
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: michaels on December 27, 2011, 06:22:54 PM
Much more cheese.
http://www.skylinechili.com/signature.php
Oh, and onions are part of the charm.

No real offense but: Cincinnati chili is NOT chili and Skyline Cincinnati chili, whether it be 3 way, four way or five way has to be one of the worst things I have ever eaten!

Please note that coming from New England where Haute Cuisine is Boiled New England Dinner (just take cabbage, cheap ham, potatoes, turnips, and whatever other root vegetable is available, and boil everything until it is an inedible soggy, mushy mass of horridness) I've had plenty of weird and completely unappetizing foods.  We need White Castle up north too!

If anyone must replicate Skyline Cincinnati chili but can’t travel to Cinn: buy the cheapest and worst canned chili (without beans) you can find, heat it up and toss it on some thin spaghetti pasta, and then cover it with shredded supermarket brand American cheese and you  have a close approximation (but possibly not quite as bad). You really need beer with this “meal” but I don’t think I’ve ever seen any beer other than Bud, Bud Light, Miller, etc at the places where they sell this concoction.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: jeffy on December 27, 2011, 07:10:51 PM
I like cheese coneys.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: mabrungard on December 27, 2011, 07:40:30 PM

No real offense but: Cincinnati chili is NOT chili and Skyline Cincinnati chili,

I'll concur that its not really chili, but I like it.  

You got the formula wrong.  To make it, you would have to use a cheap but meaty spaghetti sauce and add a bunch of cinnamin to come close to replicating it.  I still like it.
Title: Re: White Castles and Beer
Post by: tomsawyer on December 28, 2011, 12:53:04 AM
It looks pretty good.  You need it to be smooth not chunky to work on a chili dog.  Of all the places not to recommend eating at, Six Flags has a really tasty foot-long chili cheese dog.  Maybe its just being starved and bored to death simultaneously.

The other items look like Steak and Shake fare.

Wife aksed me for dinner suggestions yesterday, I threw out chili dogs so we made chili last night and the dogs are coming tomorrow or Thursday.