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Title: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: dbeechum on January 20, 2012, 08:46:29 am
So yesterday I was getting my roof repaired ahead of the impending rains and got up on the roof to explore what was happening when suddenly I get hit with my old fear of heights. Now this is something I thought I'd successfully conquered years ago, but there I was brain locked and unable to move with my brain convinced that any movement meant coming down the hard way and with no successful scenarios for navigating the ladder.

The guy working on the roof successfully talked me down over the course of a couple of minutes and got me safely to the ladder.

It's been awhile since I've had a moment like that and man does it leave you shaken. Fortunately, I'm in one piece and annoyed. (Ironic that I have no problems skydiving...)

What's the thing that can freeze you and/or when's the last time you got hit by that "Crap, I could die" moment?
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: beersk on January 20, 2012, 08:54:11 am
I don't have a fear of heights, but a fear of falling from heights.  I don't know why, but I guess that's always been one of mine.  I don't like standing near railings or anything, ESPECIALLY when people are around.  I just have this fear that someone is going to come up behind me and throw me over the edge.

I also don't like deep and dark water where you can't see below the surface.  Freaks me out for some reason.

And, they don't make me freeze up but they make me cringe and shiver: spiders and centipedes.  <shivers>
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: dbeechum on January 20, 2012, 09:06:51 am
Yeah, my fear of heights is definitely a fear of falling and even then it's not the falling as the sudden deceleration event that seems to terminate most falling incidents. :)
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: bluesman on January 20, 2012, 09:13:41 am
I had a similiar feeling while inspecting a three story townhouse roof that had some black ice patches one spring morning. I laid on the roof for about 10min before I slowly and safely made my decent back down the ladder to earth. It was truly a spiritual experience.  ;)
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: punatic on January 20, 2012, 09:18:29 am
The time I was snorkeling at Honaunau and a 10' tiger shark came cruising up out of the deep blue.  I exited the water in an area by the heiau that I would never had considered climbing out at previously.  That part of the ocean is my favorite snorkling/diving spot in the world, but I still get butterflies in my stomach when I look out into the deep blue there - years later.

Climbing/heights don't bother me. 
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: tom on January 20, 2012, 09:24:57 am
My wife has the same fear of heights.  It has gradually lessened, but still kicks in randomly.
We went out on a viewing platform at the Grand Canyon to watch the sunrise, not knowing that we crossed a walking bridge to get there.  It took a while to get back.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: beersk on January 20, 2012, 09:48:27 am
I don't know what caused my fear of heights because I used to climb trees all the time when I was a kid.  Me and my friends would climb up probably a hundred feet sometimes too...I never fell or slipped.  Must've just been born out of fear.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: Pinski on January 20, 2012, 09:54:54 am
I can relate. I have no problems rock climbing, sky diving, walking on very sketchy trails on the edge of a canyon. But for some reason, put me on a man-made structure even with a railing and I'm not very comfortable at all.

I'm pretty sure sharks can get into swimming pools if the lights aren't on too.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: denny on January 20, 2012, 09:58:17 am
I had the same feeling as you had, Drew, back in the early 80s in my rock'n'roll tour days.  I was a drum roadie officially, but found that I could make an extra hundred or 2 a day by hanging rigging points.  We were touring Canada and playing a lot of hockey rinks.  I'd slide out along an I beam at the top of the arena to hang points.  One day as I was on my way out I suddenly thought "I could die doing this".  I freaked out and it took me 45 min. to inch my way back.  My palms are sweating as I type this just thinking about it!  Since then, standing on a chair is about as far off the ground as I care to be.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: Slowbrew on January 20, 2012, 10:00:53 am
I have done a ton of work on roofs over the years but there was a time frame where I could not get myself to climb a ladder.  I would just freeze for no apparent reason.  Nothing happened that should have triggered it and I could, sooner or later, shame myself into going up to clean the gutters (or whatever) but I was truly terrified to climb the ladder.  It went away just like it had arrived with no warning or explanation.  I just hope it never comes back.

My Mom told me that Dad had gone through the same thing when I was younger.  We both just filed it under "strange psychosis we shared".

A more life threatening situation was a 3 year period where I could not sweat.  When working outside in the summer I had to soak my clothes with a garden house or I would overheat and start to pass out.  That was no fun.  No explanation for that one either.

I still hate small spaces and roaches.  /shivers while typing the words/  You're not alone in strange phobias that come and go.

Paul
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: corkybstewart on January 20, 2012, 10:13:13 am
I conquered my fear of heights(and falling) with my first oilfield job.  Several times I volunteered to be hoisted 140' in the air to the top of the drilling rig to untangles lines.  After the third or fourth time it no longer bothered me.
My brush with mortality came when I hit a patch of black ice while going about 60 in my Bronco II.  After the third revolution I was off the road into the ditch but the truck didn't roll and I came right back onto the highway still going the right direction.  Luckily I was on my way home from work since I almost had to change my pants.  By the time I got home 3 tires were going flat from mesquite thorns but I was luckier than the Explorer sitting on its roof a few miles down the road.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: euge on January 20, 2012, 11:06:59 am
Whew! I feel ya Drew! A fear is healthy; a phobia is usually unreasonable and unhealthy for the individual. I know people who cannot drive over overpasses or bridges.

I don't like ladders. My brother broke his back when a scaffolding collapsed and dropped him 3 stories onto his feet. One can get used to heights but something about tall buildings freak me the F out! I couldn't go to the top of the Stratosphere in Las Vegas- just to the mall level. Years later figured out what was unnerving me so: it was the building swaying slightly and my equilibrium was picking it up! But there's nothing like standing next to the edge of a drop- be it on a cliff, building, bridge or otherwise you can feel that gravity threatening to suck you right over the edge!

And I see very little merit in jumping out of perfectly good airplanes, base jumping, bungee jumping or free climbing. The margin for error is narrow and unforgiving. :-[

A big wind blew a neighbor's window screen up on the street-facing side of my roof last year. It laid up there for six weeks at least until I got the nerve up to go get it. And this was only after I had accidentally flung an entire 25' orange extension cord up on the roof while trying to fish the screen off with it. :D

So embarrassment overrode the fear. ::)
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: tonyp on January 20, 2012, 11:23:16 am
I'm scared of no man, ok maybe chuck norris, but spider and other bugs make me scream and run like a little girl.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: weithman5 on January 20, 2012, 12:01:08 pm
guaranteed to send a chill down my spine

"honey, lets go shopping"
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: darvyle on January 20, 2012, 12:19:31 pm
My biggest fear is running out of home brew and having nothing else to drink.  The sudden stop from falling is a close second :)
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: weithman5 on January 20, 2012, 12:36:43 pm
i used to love roller coasters. i grew up near cedar point in ohio.  i still can go on them, but after being an engineer, i start wondering if bolts were to specification, design margins etc. then i panic.  if i don't think about it i am okay
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: beersk on January 20, 2012, 12:38:27 pm
guaranteed to send a chill down my spine

"honey, lets go shopping"
At least she invites you, huh?  She still actually wants to do "things" with you, yeah? But either way, that's a strange fear.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: punatic on January 20, 2012, 01:00:36 pm
i used to love roller coasters. i grew up near cedar point in ohio.  i still can go on them, but after being an engineer, i start wondering if bolts were to specification, design margins etc. then i panic.  if i don't think about it i am okay

Back in the day I used to do steel inspections.  I mean really back in the day, before 100% fall protection mandates.  I walked on the structural steel, way up in the sky, carrying a 6 foot long torque wrench, torque testing connecting bolts, and doing welding inspection.  I had no problems walking around up there without a safety harness.  I could walk across 100 foot spans of 2 inch wide bar joists without a second thought...  provided there were no 10' tiger sharks swimming below.   :D
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: weazletoe on January 20, 2012, 08:52:01 pm
Umbrellas always make me have a little panic fart. Seriously. Hate 'em. I'm 6'3"....Taller than most of the population. So, I walk down a street crowded with umbrellas, and all I see is a million little pointy things right at eye level.
  Heights freak me out too. I'm not actually scared of the height, but I get this uncontrollable urge to jump. It's so overwhelming, I'm afraid someday I just might. Screwed up, no?
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: bonjour on January 21, 2012, 07:07:57 am
My brother broke his back when a scaffolding collapsed and dropped him 3 stories onto his feet.
+1, But It was only 2.5 stories. (5 fused vertabrae)

Back in the day when I was an EMT with an ambulance we responded to a fall call.  nearly 3 stories from an old Victorian roof, and he managed to break a 4x4 split rail fence with his back on the way down. 

Unusual for us to catch a nurses asst undoing all the restraints (backboard etc. we put him in) but I stopped her and and she said something about talking top the Dr.  I told the Dr. that the mechanism of injury said this mans back was broke.  She actually asked if she could xray thru a wood backboard.  Ribs fractured in 23 locations and 2 crushed vertabrae.  Took the Orthos 3 weeks to get him off of our backboard.  (He was walking when we arrived)

My fear isn't the ladders, nor the roof, but the transition between the two.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: Hokerer on January 21, 2012, 10:25:48 am
My fear isn't the ladders, nor the roof, but the transition between the two.

That's mine exactly.  Especially the transition from the roof to the ladder - that one always kills me
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: tubercle on January 21, 2012, 11:08:28 am
  No fear of height but what has me up in the air. Buildings,bucket trucks, mountains, planes, sturdy ladders, house tops, trees OK. Shaky scaffolding, shaky ladders not so OK..don't like. I guess it comes down to trusting the structure.

 Not going to jump off of or out of anything on purpose.

 Railings...what is it about them? I stay away too.

 
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: phunhog on January 21, 2012, 11:24:09 am
I am a firefighter and have seen my share of death and destruction over the past 20 years. The one thing though that makes me feel more mortal than anything is driving on a two lane road at highway speeds.  Trust me....it only takes a second of distraction for everything to go tragically wrong.   It isn't really a fear as much as the realization of how close to death/serious injury we are almost everyday.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: oscarvan on January 22, 2012, 06:50:54 pm
I guess I am lucky to have no irrational fears........just the nagging "oh crap, some day it's gonna hurt" type of fear.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: SiameseMoose on January 24, 2012, 12:35:33 pm
I used to do a lot of climbing, and heights never bothered me "in the wild". Heights on man-made structures have always bothered me. Go figure!

The other fear I've got is other drivers when it's raining. It's not just that I never trust the other guy, but in the rain it's a bit of a problem for me.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: Slowbrew on January 24, 2012, 12:57:30 pm
I used to do a lot of climbing, and heights never bothered me "in the wild". Heights on man-made structures have always bothered me. Go figure!

The other fear I've got is other drivers when it's raining. It's not just that I never trust the other guy, but in the rain it's a bit of a problem for me.

In Des Moines it doesn't take rain to make you fear the other drivers.  Stop signs and red lights are just suggestions in this town.  I see at least 2 or 3 red light runners everyday on my commute of 12 miles round trip.  Not the "whoops, I misjudged the yellow a bit" type of red light runner either but the "my light is green and 3 cars have already gone through the intersection in front of me and a person just ran the red" type of red light runner.

Paul
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: Kit B on January 25, 2012, 03:07:04 pm
My biggest fear...Honestly...
Coat hooks, mounted at eye-level.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: weazletoe on January 25, 2012, 04:12:22 pm
My biggest fear...Honestly...
Coat hooks, mounted at eye-level.


Oh good. I'm not the only one with and eye injury phobia.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: morticaixavier on January 25, 2012, 04:20:27 pm
My biggest fear...Honestly...
Coat hooks, mounted at eye-level.


Oh good. I'm not the only one with and eye injury phobia.

you're not the only one with urge to jump fears either weaze. I make it a point to carefully walk up to edges, railings, floor to ceiling windows etc. just to try to acclimate to the fear but it still does work, I get a thrill and that urge. 'I wonder what it would be like?' feeling.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: weazletoe on January 25, 2012, 07:09:36 pm
Yeah, the "I wonder what it would feel like", feeling. Well put. I jumped off a 30' high dive. Lemme tells, it feels pretty horrific. Your dropping,and scrambling for something to catch yourself on, and there's nothing there.
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: tubercle on January 26, 2012, 09:03:54 pm
The worst feeling I have ever had was standing at the railing at the back of a cruise ship. I had to go sit down. It was terrible. Every one in a while you read where some one fell over board. If you have ever been on one of there ships it is almost impossible to accidently fall over the rails unless you are climbing on them or something. When I read about these I just have to wonder....
Title: Re: That Moment of Feeling Terrifyingly Mortal
Post by: tonyp on January 30, 2012, 10:25:59 am
My biggest fear...Honestly...
Coat hooks, mounted at eye-level.


Oh good. I'm not the only one with and eye injury phobia.

I also have an eye phobia because I've had recurrent corneal erosion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurrent_corneal_erosion) for the last 13 yrs. It only happens in the morning, usually early, so i go to bed thinking about it every night, not knowing if its going to happen when i wake up. as a matter of fact it happened to me yesterday morning, hurts like a mother!@#$.

I've had 2 types of surgeries in both eyes, twice in one eye and use a topical cream before bed everynight and it still happens about once per month, sometimes more, sometimes less.

I've actually had to teach myself to wake up without opening my eyes so i can swirl them around before opening them. scary huh?