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Title: Summit rhizomes
Post by: denny on March 16, 2012, 07:59:37 PM
Looks like they're finally available...

http://www.willamettevalleyhops.com/rhizomes/summit-rhizome/
Title: Re: Summit rhizomes
Post by: ccfoo242 on March 17, 2012, 12:33:09 AM
Are there many other dwarf varieties?  I'm planting mine in pots but I have a feeling my HOA nazis will complain about the line I'm running up to my balcony.
Title: Re: Summit rhizomes
Post by: pinnah on March 17, 2012, 12:49:21 AM
Geez Denny, I just saw that and ordered a few!   8)
Very cool, I will enjoy messing with the Summit.

Are there many other dwarf varieties?  I'm planting mine in pots but I have a feeling my HOA nazis will complain about the line I'm running up to my balcony.

In my opinion, most hops can be grown at the 10 foot level on the homebrewers and homegardeners scale.
I bush hop lots of varieties and get plenty of production for home use.
Title: Re: Summit rhizomes
Post by: oly on March 21, 2012, 08:01:00 PM
If you like to brew with these, you might want to plant some. One of the growers I know said that, due to the difficulty of growing them (downy mildew in particular), acreage will likely be decreasing.
Title: Re: Summit rhizomes
Post by: pinnah on March 22, 2012, 12:18:10 AM
One of the growers I know said that, due to the difficulty of growing them (downy mildew in particular), acreage will likely be decreasing.

Cool.  Talking to a grower.
The info on downy mildew is interesting

I am excited about the release and
thinking that the new home of Summit should be the dry Intermountain West. 

You heard it first; spread the word. ;)

Here in Colorado, small hop farms are popping up and many trellis systems are rigid and only 10-12 foot tall;
perfect for the dwarf hop. 
The dry climate means extensive irrigation.  But consistent low humidity may allow for an alternative growth style, the low bush hop,
without being subject to the effects mildew.
 
And hell, the name?  ...The New Summit...., yep, Colorado hop farms would be wise to get it planted.  8)

Ah Yes, the new Colorado super alpha tangerine dream,
grown at elevation
on old onion fields.

Which leaches out any of your old perceptions... :o

Front Range Breweries would eat it up.

   







Title: Re: Summit rhizomes
Post by: a10t2 on March 22, 2012, 12:56:46 AM
Unless I'm mistaken, your neighbors up there in Mesa County already have some planted. When I went up for the harvest a couple years ago they were planning on it.
Title: Re: Summit rhizomes
Post by: pyrite on March 22, 2012, 01:56:10 AM
Any idea if Summit can be grown with success in desert like conditions?
Title: Re: Summit rhizomes
Post by: pinnah on March 22, 2012, 02:20:07 AM
Unless I'm mistaken, your neighbors up there in Mesa County already have some planted. When I went up for the harvest a couple years ago they were planning on it.

Snork on the Mesa County hop scene.
Give them peaches and grapes man.

Elevation Brother.

Were you one of the brewers that participated in picking his own?
I love that crap. Brewery labor harvests local hops to crank teh local masses. 8)

Good experience you have had, here in the alpine SW.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Summit rhizomes
Post by: a10t2 on March 22, 2012, 04:41:50 AM
Were you one of the brewers that participated in picking his own?

Yep. Never again. I already don't get paid enough. ;)
Title: Re: Summit rhizomes
Post by: oly on March 23, 2012, 03:41:06 AM
One of the growers I know said that, due to the difficulty of growing them (downy mildew in particular), acreage will likely be decreasing.

Cool.  Talking to a grower.
The info on downy mildew is interesting

I am excited about the release and
thinking that the new home of Summit should be the dry Intermountain West. 

You heard it first; spread the word. ;)

Here in Colorado, small hop farms are popping up and many trellis systems are rigid and only 10-12 foot tall;
perfect for the dwarf hop. 
The dry climate means extensive irrigation.  But consistent low humidity may allow for an alternative growth style, the low bush hop,
without being subject to the effects mildew.
 
And hell, the name?  ...The New Summit...., yep, Colorado hop farms would be wise to get it planted.  8)

Ah Yes, the new Colorado super alpha tangerine dream,
grown at elevation
on old onion fields.

Which leaches out any of your old perceptions... :o

Front Range Breweries would eat it up.

   








Yeah, I was asking about Summit as I'm interested in trying a dwarf variety on low trellis. Feedback was that it yielded well initially but declined over the years. Here in the wet Willamette valley the downy can be harder to fight but in CO where it is drier it may work out better.  Best of luck, I hope this hop sticks around, otherwise how would I make Denny's Belgian IPA??  :)
Glad to hear that there are smaller hop farms making a go of it in CO. Do you know which breweries are using small farm hops?
Title: Re: Summit rhizomes
Post by: a10t2 on March 23, 2012, 03:56:39 AM
The (alleged) downside to Summit is that depending on when it's picked, it can be either a great citrusy American hop, or a garlic/oniony mess. And the window can be pretty narrow.