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Title: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: Jimmy K on March 20, 2012, 02:31:08 PM
The whole thing is just making me cry. Especially because it appears to be written by a brewer at our nearby Fordham/Old Dominion and received some credibility through a link on Fordham's facebook page.
 
http://breweryblager.blogspot.com/2012/03/lesson-before-homebrewing.html?spref=fb (http://breweryblager.blogspot.com/2012/03/lesson-before-homebrewing.html?spref=fb)
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: narvin on March 20, 2012, 02:32:33 PM
Not surprising, I guess.  Old Dominion has been been on my list of not worth drinking since the Virginia brewery got bought out.

I thoroughly enjoy the part where he says that you do not add aroma hops to a stout because "Stouts generally do not have an estery smell."  And that you normally chill the beer in the lauter tun.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: nateo on March 20, 2012, 03:36:53 PM
I cried a little on the inside while reading that. I don't even know where to start. He's so aggressively ignorant, I'm sure there's nothing anyone can say that could penetrate his smugness.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: pikelakehomebrew on March 20, 2012, 03:43:41 PM
...psh it's Blogspot.  -5 credibility without reading it.   ;D
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: richardt on March 20, 2012, 03:51:47 PM
The "photoshopped" picture made me laugh.  Still wasn't worth the time to read the article, though.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: euge on March 20, 2012, 04:15:46 PM
It's not a he it's a she and she isn't a brewer. She works at a brewery. Obviously doesn't know the first thing about it either.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: nateo on March 20, 2012, 04:22:29 PM
It's not a he it's a she and she isn't a brewer. She works at a brewery. Obviously doesn't know the first thing about it either.

I'm just sexist, I guess. I assumed from their tone they were a man.

Gender Analyzer got it right, though.
http://www.genderanalyzer.com/?url=breweryblager.blogspot.com
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: pikelakehomebrew on March 20, 2012, 04:31:45 PM
Gender Analyzer got it right, though.
http://www.genderanalyzer.com/?url=breweryblager.blogspot.com

Gender Analyzer clearly states that I'm confused as to my gender:
http://www.genderanalyzer.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pikelakehomebrew.com (http://www.genderanalyzer.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pikelakehomebrew.com)

47% Man, 53% Woman.   :o DOH!
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: morticaixavier on March 20, 2012, 04:45:42 PM
The pedant steps up...

Language has gender, people have sex.

The pedant dodges the flying tomatoes and sits back down
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: weithman5 on March 20, 2012, 04:46:50 PM
i have to take your words for it.  the article was written so poorly i could not get past the first few paragraphs.  let alone the context at the start -gentleman, fight, church.  good Lord.  not worthy of the time (posting is though)
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: pikelakehomebrew on March 20, 2012, 04:50:50 PM
Language has gender, people have sex.

Bah dum bum...ching!  ;D
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: nateo on March 20, 2012, 05:00:46 PM
I'm more perplexed by her brewery linking to her blog. It's one thing to denigrate homebrewers and homebrewing, it's another to link it back to your brewery. I'm all for private citizens saying whatever dumb crap pops into their head, but this seems like bad business.

I told my wife about the esters-from-hops thing, and she said "What?! I don't know anything about brewing, and even I know esters are from yeast."
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: Jimmy K on March 20, 2012, 05:14:43 PM
I'm waging my own small battle...
 
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=323835774341356&id=135440324179&comment_id=3530590&notif_t=comment_mention (http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/permalink.php?story_fbid=323835774341356&id=135440324179&comment_id=3530590&notif_t=comment_mention)
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: garc_mall on March 20, 2012, 05:18:32 PM
Based on a real quick examination of the page, why do I get the feeling that the blogger who wrote that article is the same person as the one who runs the brewery facebook page?
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 20, 2012, 05:42:54 PM
T-Rex was about 65 million years before the La Brea tar pits, none found there.  She got that wrong too!
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: beersk on March 20, 2012, 06:08:20 PM
I think everyone here is taking this too seriously.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: nateo on March 20, 2012, 06:31:27 PM
I think everyone here is taking this too seriously.

I don't believe you can take beer too seriously. I'm mostly of German ancestry, though.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: a10t2 on March 20, 2012, 06:44:53 PM
You've spent too much time on Wikipedia when you read something like that and start looking for the "edit" link...
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: beersk on March 20, 2012, 07:46:42 PM
I think everyone here is taking this too seriously.

I don't believe you can take beer too seriously. I'm mostly of German ancestry, though.
I'm mostly German too, but I've been very indifferent about a lot of issues lately.  People take things too seriously and take them too far.  Maybe I've been drinking too much of the water lately...
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: nateo on March 20, 2012, 07:59:50 PM
I'm mostly German too, but I've been very indifferent about a lot of issues lately.

It's hard for tone to come across on the internet. I was (mostly) joking.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: narvin on March 20, 2012, 08:26:47 PM

I'm mostly German too, but I've been very indifferent about a lot of issues lately.  People take things too seriously and take them too far.  Maybe I've been drinking too much of the water lately...

Yeah, the fluoridation will make you a complacent citizen.  Before you know it, you don't even care that some crappy local brewery is insulting homebrewers!
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: beersk on March 20, 2012, 08:44:25 PM

I'm mostly German too, but I've been very indifferent about a lot of issues lately.  People take things too seriously and take them too far.  Maybe I've been drinking too much of the water lately...

Yeah, the fluoridation will make you a complacent citizen.  Before you know it, you don't even care that some crappy local brewery is insulting homebrewers!
Oh man...I've hit rock bottom...I need help!
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: dimik on March 20, 2012, 11:13:08 PM
I read through it, and it's utter rubbish. The arrogant ignorance of the author is astounding.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: Slowbrew on March 21, 2012, 01:00:04 PM

I'm mostly German too, but I've been very indifferent about a lot of issues lately.  People take things too seriously and take them too far.  Maybe I've been drinking too much of the water lately...

Yeah, the fluoridation will make you a complacent citizen.  Before you know it, you don't even care that some crappy local brewery is insulting homebrewers!
Oh man...I've hit rock bottom...I need help!

Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

Having a couple home brews and forgetting about it again is an acceptable sencond step.

 ;)

Paul
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: weithman5 on March 21, 2012, 02:05:11 PM
I read through it, and it's utter rubbish. The arrogant ignorance of the author is astounding.

i tried to read through it, the quality of the writing is so incoherent and rambling it is hard to get through
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: tschmidlin on March 21, 2012, 03:25:28 PM
It sounds to me like it was written by someone who works at a brewery in the office and has no idea how beer is really made or how to homebrew.  It also sounds like the directions were suspect.

That said, whatever.  It seems the author doesn't want to know more about brewing, that's fine.  It doesn't speak well for the brewery to have this on their FB page.  Aren't they in DE?  Maybe Ron should stop by and straighten them out :)
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: narvin on March 21, 2012, 03:29:36 PM
It sounds to me like it was written by someone who works at a brewery in the office and has no idea how beer is really made or how to homebrew.  It also sounds like the directions were suspect.

That said, whatever.  It seems the author doesn't want to know more about brewing, that's fine.  It doesn't speak well for the brewery to have this on their FB page.  Aren't they in DE?  Maybe Ron should stop by and straighten them out :)

Yeah, on second reading, it's just a kid who probably got started at the bottom of the brewing business.  The real problem is that someone thought it was a good idea to post this on the FB page.  Interns also in charge of social media, perhaps?  ;D
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: brewmichigan on March 21, 2012, 06:28:53 PM
Sometimes I hate the internetz....
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: Jimmy K on March 22, 2012, 12:58:46 PM
Interns also in charge of social media, perhaps?  ;D

I think you hit the nail on the head there. She wrote a followup because of several negative comments on the post and said she's only been in the brewing business for 10 weeks. The brewery probably told her to blog about her experience and post it on their page, which wasn't a great idea on their part. I could care less about one person who's clueless about homebrewing, but a brewery being clueless about their image bothers me. Overall, the brewery is good, several great homebrewers work there, and they help us out with our state fair competition. Perhaps I should have posted this in the going pro section under "Don't do this"
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: beersk on March 22, 2012, 01:02:10 PM
Interns also in charge of social media, perhaps?  ;D

I think you hit the nail on the head there. She wrote a followup because of several negative comments on the post and said she's only been in the brewing business for 10 weeks. The brewery probably told her to blog about her experience and post it on their page, which wasn't a great idea on their part. I could care less about one person who's clueless about homebrewing, but a brewery being clueless about their image bothers me. Overall, the brewery is good, several great homebrewers work there, and they help us out with our state fair competition. Perhaps I should have posted this in the going pro section under "Don't do this"
You COULD care less?
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: Jimmy K on March 22, 2012, 01:09:08 PM
You COULD care less?
What word would you prefer? Obviously, I didn't care less...
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: bo on March 22, 2012, 01:38:00 PM
You COULD care less?
What word would you prefer? Obviously, I didn't care less...

You COULDN'T care less.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: Jimmy K on March 22, 2012, 01:42:09 PM
You COULD care less?
What word would you prefer? Obviously, I didn't care less...

You COULDN'T care less.

Ooooooh, right.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: redbeerman on March 22, 2012, 02:21:50 PM
I wouldn't have read this article if it hadn't been linked here.  I don't think we are in any serious danger of losing any future homebrewers over this. :) 
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: weithman5 on March 22, 2012, 02:45:49 PM
You COULD care less?
What word would you prefer? Obviously, I didn't care less...

You COULDN'T care less.
actually i could care less. and so i will. i now care less about this than i did before 8)
 
Ooooooh, right.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: beersk on March 22, 2012, 03:20:23 PM
I wouldn't have read this article if it hadn't been linked here.  I don't think we are in any serious danger of losing any future homebrewers over this. :) 
This is what I've been saying this whole time...it's being taken too seriously.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: a10t2 on March 22, 2012, 03:24:35 PM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png) (http://xkcd.com/386/)
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: FirstStateBrewer on March 22, 2012, 07:58:58 PM
Here is her followup post: http://breweryblager.blogspot.com/2012/03/beer-is-fun.html
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: morticaixavier on March 22, 2012, 08:00:08 PM
Good response. Maybe a touch defensive but then I didn't read the comments on the prior blog.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: beersk on March 22, 2012, 08:03:24 PM
Here is her followup post: http://breweryblager.blogspot.com/2012/03/beer-is-fun.html
Phew! Closure!  I was so worried the brewing world might be too shaken up to go on.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: morticaixavier on March 22, 2012, 08:35:00 PM
Here is her followup post: http://breweryblager.blogspot.com/2012/03/beer-is-fun.html
Phew! Closure!  I was so worried the brewing world might be too shaken up to go on.

careful beersk, your snark is showing ;D
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: tschmidlin on March 23, 2012, 06:07:28 AM
Wait, there's a sex tape?
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: euge on March 23, 2012, 06:30:01 AM
Wait, there's a sex tape?

Yeah! ;D

Well she has fortitude and hasn't let a bunch of surly homebrewer's deter her. Kudos. Hope Brewery Blager joins the forum so she can learn to homebrew from some of the best (not me)...
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: beersk on March 23, 2012, 01:15:54 PM
Here is her followup post: http://breweryblager.blogspot.com/2012/03/beer-is-fun.html
Phew! Closure!  I was so worried the brewing world might be too shaken up to go on.

careful beersk, your snark is showing ;D
Snark, snark. 
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: cfleisher on March 24, 2012, 12:18:57 AM
wrongwrongwrongwrongwrong
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: dimik on March 24, 2012, 02:22:17 AM
Her "excuse" post still has a very strong "arrogant snooty contempt" flavor to it that just screams "you all are just stupid hippy rednecks, but I'm just trying to appear as if that's not what I think about you".
Don't like her nor her posts... nope... not one bit!
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: DrewG on March 26, 2012, 04:01:36 PM
Quote
Wait, there's a sex tape?

I heard Chip Walton produced it.

*BLAM*
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: tschmidlin on March 27, 2012, 07:57:49 AM
Quote
Wait, there's a sex tape?

I heard Chip Walton produced it.

*BLAM*
Huh.  No idea who that is.  Related to John Boy?
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: phillamb168 on March 27, 2012, 09:02:26 AM
Chip Walton, HMV!!!

He's the videographer for Brewing TV
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: mrcceo on March 28, 2012, 07:39:28 PM
Sent her a short comment:
From the most interesting man in the world "Stay clueless my friend"
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: gmac on March 28, 2012, 07:57:04 PM
Chip Walton, HMV!!!

He's the videographer for Brewing TV
Oh I hope he does some of his balding white boy rap on the tape...
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: weithman5 on March 28, 2012, 09:03:38 PM
Her "excuse" post still has a very strong "arrogant snooty contempt" flavor to it that just screams "you all are just stupid hippy rednecks, but I'm just trying to appear as if that's not what I think about you".
Don't like her nor her posts... nope... not one bit!
we are kind of a bunch of hippy rednecks.  stupid though we are not. well, the rest of you are not. i am not sure about me.  i have been trying to sort it out but i just can't.   8)
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: nateo on March 28, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
we are kind of a bunch of hippy rednecks.

I wonder what a hippy redneck is. I'm picturing someone flying the Cascadia flag with their Confederate flag at their self-sufficient compound in the woods. I guess that makes sense, now that I think about it. 
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: deepsouth on March 28, 2012, 09:27:12 PM
oh man, what a mess.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: weithman5 on March 28, 2012, 09:30:34 PM
i think they have big four by fours to drive out around the pot plants before they fall asleep in a broken down old yeller school bus.
Title: Re: Possibly the worst homebrewing article ever
Post by: garc_mall on March 28, 2012, 09:32:32 PM
we are kind of a bunch of hippy rednecks.

I wonder what a hippy redneck is. I'm picturing someone flying the Cascadia flag with their Confederate flag at their self-sufficient compound in the woods. I guess that makes sense, now that I think about it.

Hippy Rednecks?

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