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Title: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: roguejim on April 14, 2012, 07:55:46 AM
I have two stir plates being built, and I'll be ordering a couple of 2L flasks shortly.  My kitchen stove is electric, so, is it advisable to put my flasks in a water bath for boiling?  How should I proceed with this?
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: dzlater on April 14, 2012, 11:54:16 AM
I have an electric stove with coil elements.
I tried the water bath and it took me long time to get to boiling.
Then I made a ring of twisted up aluminum foil set that on the burner and set the flask on that.
That worked fine.
Last time I just set the flask on the burner and had no issues.
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: davidgzach on April 14, 2012, 12:56:05 PM
Spend the extra $ and buy Pyrex or Bomex.  You can take them straight from the burner to the ice bath without a worry.  If you plan to make lagers, I would purchase a 4L or 5L too.
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: svejk on April 14, 2012, 02:46:01 PM
I eventually gave up on boiling starters in my flask.  My problem was that the design was the perfect shape to shoot wort onto the ceiling above the stove.  My method now is to boil in a pot and then pour the cool wort into the sanitized flask.
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: bo on April 14, 2012, 02:53:22 PM
I eventually gave up on boiling starters in my flask.  My problem was that the design was the perfect shape to shoot wort onto the ceiling above the stove.  My method now is to boil in a pot and then pour the cool wort into the sanitized flask.


I gave up on that too.  Not worth the mess.
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: denny on April 14, 2012, 03:34:02 PM
I eventually gave up on boiling starters in my flask.  My problem was that the design was the perfect shape to shoot wort onto the ceiling above the stove.  My method now is to boil in a pot and then pour the cool wort into the sanitized flask.


I gave up on that too.  Not worth the mess.

I'll third that.
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: tygo on April 14, 2012, 03:59:00 PM
Boiling in the flask works great for me and then no need to sanitize the flask or transfer to it after cooling.  Less steps.  Then again I use fermcap in every starter.
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: Alewyfe on April 14, 2012, 05:20:43 PM
Boiling in the flask works great for me and then no need to transfer to sanitize the flask or transfer to it after cooling.  Less steps.  Then again I use fermcap in every starter.

+1
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: davidgzach on April 16, 2012, 03:53:11 PM
Boiling in the flask works great for me and then no need to sanitize the flask or transfer to it after cooling.  Less steps.  Then again I use fermcap in every starter.

+1 here.  You do have to pay a little extra attention but if you reduce the heat just before it starts a rapid boil you should be fine.  No mess and less steps.
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: hoser on April 16, 2012, 04:03:24 PM
Don't fill the flask to the top and you should be fine as well.  I usually leave  1L of headspace in my flask and reduce the heat just before a boil and have no issue (as long as I keep a close eye on it).
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: DaveR on April 18, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
Don't fill the flask to the top and you should be fine as well.  I usually leave  1L of headspace in my flask and reduce the heat just before a boil and have no issue (as long as I keep a close eye on it).

Using a wide mouth version of the Kimax helps, too. It's less apt to erupt than the narrow mouth version. I've  used both. Still, I stopped boiling starter wort in flasks. I used a small pot and transferred.

Now days I mix up enough wort for multiple starters. I mix up several gallons, fill canning jars and sterilize them in a pressure cooker. It may sound like a lot of work, but it isn't. I can make enough wort for a half dozen starters with slightly more effort than it once took for a single starter. It's really handy to have sterile wort on hand.
Title: Re: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: veldy on April 22, 2012, 02:48:50 AM
I have two stir plates being built, and I'll be ordering a couple of 2L flasks shortly.  My kitchen stove is electric, so, is it advisable to put my flasks in a water bath for boiling?  How should I proceed with this?

I use a gas stove and still scorch the starter if I heat in the flask.  I just use a stainless pot and cool it in a water bath right in the pot.  I just pour it in the flask when cool (I don't bother with O2 since I use a stir plate, but I do use nutrient).  Spray with Star-san at every opportunity and all will be well. ;)

Veldy
Title: Re: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: tygo on April 22, 2012, 02:54:48 AM
I use a gas stove and still scorch the starter if I heat in the flask. 

Give it a good swirl every couple of minutes until the DME is dissolved.
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: sparkleberry on April 22, 2012, 03:26:19 AM
i boil in a 2000ml flask and have never boiled over.  you just gotta watch for a little bit; maybe ride the burner dial.  it's not rocket science.  i grill dinner while i boil in my flask. 
Title: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: veldy on April 22, 2012, 04:10:24 AM
I use a gas stove and still scorch the starter if I heat in the flask. 

Give it a good swirl every couple of minutes until the DME is dissolved.

I always heat the water to a boil, turn off the heat and after a couple of minutes, add the DME.  The wait avoids a sudden boil over.  I never add heat again until completely dissolved.  I still would catch  overly darkened wort, even black specs, if I applied even low heat to the flask.  I know that is precisely what a flask is for, but I just moved to a pan and never looked back. 

Veldy
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: deepsouth on April 22, 2012, 01:40:58 PM
I eventually gave up on boiling starters in my flask.  My problem was that the design was the perfect shape to shoot wort onto the ceiling above the stove.  My method now is to boil in a pot and then pour the cool wort into the sanitized flask.


I gave up on that too.  Not worth the mess.

I'll third that.

i'll fourth it.
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: tonyp on April 23, 2012, 08:55:45 PM
i gave up on it after i got 2nd degree burns from a boil-over while moving it off the stove. but i didnt drop it! :D
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: Pinski on April 23, 2012, 09:18:01 PM
I eventually gave up on boiling starters in my flask.  My problem was that the design was the perfect shape to shoot wort onto the ceiling above the stove.  My method now is to boil in a pot and then pour the cool wort into the sanitized flask.


I gave up on that too.  Not worth the mess.

I'll third that.

i'll fourth it.
The motion passes.
Title: Re: Boiling in an erlenmeyer flask
Post by: micsager on May 04, 2012, 07:39:42 PM
i gave up on it after i got 2nd degree burns from a boil-over while moving it off the stove. but i didnt drop it! :D
+1