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Title: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: narcout on June 15, 2012, 06:43:57 pm
Is it just me or is this the greatest yeast strain of all time?  I hope they release it again soon; it's been forever...
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: jamminbrew on June 15, 2012, 06:48:35 pm
Unibroue!!!!  One of my favorite breweries!  They haven't made a beer I don't like...  I am anxiously awaiting the release of this yeast also...  If I remember correctly, it is due for an October release...
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: oly on June 15, 2012, 11:14:25 pm
I bought a pack of this yeast a while ago and it's sitting in the bottom of my fridge awating some starter wort and a recipe.  What would you make with this?
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: skyler on June 16, 2012, 08:30:14 am
To date, one of my favorite beers was the Belgian IPA I made with 3864.

Fermentables
US 2-Row Malt 13lb 8oz (96.4 %) In Mash/Steeped
UK Medium Crystal (120EBC) 8.00 oz (3.6 %) In Mash/Steeped

Hops
US Simcoe (10.5 % alpha) 14 g Loose Pellet Hops used 60 Min From End
US Amarillo (10.7 % alpha) 70 g Loose Whole Hops used 15 Min From End
US Amarillo (10.7 % alpha) 70 g Loose Whole Hops used 5 Min From End
US Amarillo (10.7 % alpha) 70 g Loose Whole Hops used At turn off
US Amarillo (10.7 % alpha) 50 g Loose Whole Hops used Dry-Hopped

Yeast: Wyeast 3864-Canadian/Belgian Style

Mash at 149 degF for 60 mins
OG: 1.063
FG: 1.012

Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: gmac on June 16, 2012, 08:40:32 am
I got an email from Wyeast stating an Oct release.
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: dbeechum on June 16, 2012, 11:58:02 am
What would you make with this?

Anything that you want plum and cinnamon flavors with.
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: oly on June 16, 2012, 05:17:04 pm
To date, one of my favorite beers was the Belgian IPA I made with 3864.


I may have to try that. I have made Belg IPAs in the past with 3522 and maybe it's time to switch it up.


Anything that you want plum and cinnamon flavors with.

I may have to give that a think....something to make with the IPA yeast cake. Dubbel? Saison?
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: erockrph on June 16, 2012, 07:09:17 pm
I have yet to brew with this strain, but I love me some Unibroue something fierce. I've been toying with a Belgian Barleywine recipe that I'd love to make with this yeast. I don't know if I can wait till October, though. I may have to brew my first batch soon with WLP540 and then brew it again in the fall when I can get the 3864.
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: Poobah58 on June 17, 2012, 05:46:48 pm
Made a very nice Belgian Pale with this yeast last year...
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: gmac on October 18, 2012, 01:43:48 pm
Just an FYI, I ordered this from my LHBS.  It seems to be available now if anyone is looking for it.
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: Joe Sr. on October 18, 2012, 03:03:02 pm
I should get some.  I cultured some up and it made a tasty tripel.

I could do a side-by-side comparison, which would be nice.  10 gallons of tripel.
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: rjharper on October 18, 2012, 04:13:37 pm
To me, every Unibroue tastes the same, and its because of this yeast.  If you like it, then go for it.  Personally I'm giving this one a wide berth.
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: erockrph on October 18, 2012, 04:35:02 pm
I do tend to pick up more diacetyl than I like in a few of Unibroue's beers. Does the Wyeast strain throw a lot of diacetyl?
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: a10t2 on October 18, 2012, 04:42:22 pm
I haven't noted any diacetyl in anything I've brewed with either 3864 or cultured Unibroue dregs.

I don't think the Unibroue that's distributed in the States is refrigerated. That could certainly be a factor.
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: gmac on October 19, 2012, 06:59:58 am
I've never noticed diacetyl either.  I only have Unibroue beers when I'm in Quebec and I suspect that they are a lot fresher than they'd be in the US.

I'm gonna try to do a blanche de chambly clone attempt (or blonde de chambly cause I think the wit actually uses a different yeast) and then make a run at a Grande Reserve 17 clone (no recipe but it'll be a Belgian Dark Strong as a start).

Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: kylekohlmorgen on October 19, 2012, 02:29:57 pm
I'm another fan of this yeast!

Just asked Wyeast via their website if it will return. I'll post when I hear something.
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: tygo on October 19, 2012, 03:39:51 pm
I'm another fan of this yeast!

Just asked Wyeast via their website if it will return. I'll post when I hear something.

It's available right now.
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: narcout on October 19, 2012, 06:04:47 pm
Awesome.  I'll be stocking up. 
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: narcout on January 03, 2014, 02:20:10 pm
It's back.

http://www.wyeastlab.com/vssprogram.cfm?website=2
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: erockrph on January 03, 2014, 11:02:43 pm
It's back.

http://www.wyeastlab.com/vssprogram.cfm?website=2

Fantastic news. I emailed them over the summer and they didn't have a release date for it yet. I ended up building up a pitch off an old bottle of mine for a few brews this fall, but I think I'll take this opportunity to freshen up my stock.

My spring brewing schedule just got a bit more interesting. Looks like I will be replacing my ESB > Barleywine with a BSB (Belgian ESB) > Quad IPA.
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: riceral on January 04, 2014, 07:06:01 am
It's back.

http://www.wyeastlab.com/vssprogram.cfm?website=2

I wish I would have waited a week. I have a dubbed in the primary and would have liked to have used this yeast.

Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: erockrph on November 14, 2014, 04:10:07 pm
Just got confirmation from Wyeast that 3864 is coming back in the first quarter of 2015. Guess I should use up that pack I've been hoarding since last winter...
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: HoosierBrew on November 14, 2014, 04:16:20 pm
Good ! Great strain. Needs to be a year round. I would add 3726 Saison (peppery and tasty) and 1217 West Coast IPA. I've emailed Dawson to give my votes on all three of those actually. Votes count at yeast companies, guys.


EDIT -  I use the 'Contact Us' tab to give my feedback on strains, usually to request that they keep a PC strain or make it a year round, it gets forwarded to Dawson (Brewing TV fame, now Wyeast brand manager) and he usually responds personally. Didn't mean to say I email him personally.   ;D
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: Joe Sr. on November 14, 2014, 06:41:37 pm
Unibroue yeast is easy to culture from a bottle. Just saying.


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Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: HoosierBrew on November 14, 2014, 06:57:46 pm
Unibroue yeast is easy to culture from a bottle. Just saying.


Yep, done it many times (along with many other Belgian strains). I just think it's deserving of a full time Wyeast slot. 
Title: Re: Wyeast 3864 - Canadian/Belgian Ale
Post by: Joe Sr. on November 14, 2014, 07:26:56 pm
No argument here. I have a starter going for tomorrow. One of my favorite yeasts.