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Title: NHC 2014?
Post by: prccap on June 26, 2012, 02:22:23 PM
Did they announce where this is taking place?
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Post by: ghumphrey on June 26, 2012, 03:02:12 PM
I didn't hear anything - they announced 2013 of course. Then again, I had been drinking...
Title: NHC 2014?
Post by: denny on June 26, 2012, 03:23:32 PM
We have a potential location, but we're a ways from announcing it yet.


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Post by: mmitchem on June 26, 2012, 03:26:17 PM
Philly is going to be great, easily within driving distance. Although I might not feel like it on the 30th!
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Post by: chaz on June 27, 2012, 02:29:04 AM
There was a subtle hint of where it might be during someone's speech at the banquet... :D
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Post by: guido on July 02, 2012, 08:54:18 PM
There was a subtle hint of where it might be during someone's speech at the banquet... :D

And the subtle hint refers to where?  Can you at least give us an idea geographically?  I know the West as really asserted itself lately and the East was way overdue.  It's been a while since anything has been in the South.
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Post by: theDarkSide on July 02, 2012, 08:58:27 PM
I'm voting for Alabama and Alvin Holmes can give the keynote  ;D
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Post by: dbeechum on July 02, 2012, 10:48:11 PM
Ohh ohh I know... but I can't tell... they might throw me in the river.
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Post by: garc_mall on July 02, 2012, 11:02:27 PM
Rumor at NHC 2012 was Atlanta. But I don't know anything for sure, so I am only speculating.
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Post by: hoser on July 02, 2012, 11:40:49 PM
I have heard Atlanta as well, but can not confirm this.  I believe Michigan was campaigning as well for 2014?
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Post by: theDarkSide on July 03, 2012, 12:53:28 PM
I also heard Atlanta, but Michigan would be good too.  At the rate it's growing, they are going to need them at places like the Meadowlands or better yet, Gillette Stadium  ;D
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Post by: thebigbaker on July 03, 2012, 01:17:18 PM
That would be great if it were in Atlanta.  I lived there before moving out here to Denver and still have a lot of friends there.  While I was in Atlanta, I worked in bars and restaurants and know the place like the back of my hand.  So what better place to attend my first NHC...although I'm sure no matter where it is held, I'm going to make 2014 my first NHC.
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Post by: jeffy on July 03, 2012, 01:18:47 PM
That would be great if it were in Atlanta.  I lived there before moving out here to Denver and still have a lot of friends there.  While I was in Atlanta, I worked in bars and restaurants and know the place like the back of my hand.  So what better place to attend my first NHC...although I'm sure no matter where it is held, I'm going to make 2014 my first NHC.

What's wrong with 2013?
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Post by: thebigbaker on July 03, 2012, 01:29:46 PM
That would be great if it were in Atlanta.  I lived there before moving out here to Denver and still have a lot of friends there.  While I was in Atlanta, I worked in bars and restaurants and know the place like the back of my hand.  So what better place to attend my first NHC...although I'm sure no matter where it is held, I'm going to make 2014 my first NHC.

What's wrong with 2013?

I would love to, but 2013 is already a very busy year for me so it may be tough to squeeze in that trip.  Not completely ruling it out and I would love to see Philly, just have to see how some things go the rest of 2012 that will affect 2013.
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Post by: theDarkSide on July 03, 2012, 01:32:01 PM
What's wrong with 2013?

Maybe he's triskaidekaphobic  ;D
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Post by: thebigbaker on July 03, 2012, 01:36:33 PM
I also heard Atlanta, but Michigan would be good too.  At the rate it's growing, they are going to need them at places like the Meadowlands or better yet, Gillette Stadium  ;D

Or the Georgia Dome, which is also right next to the Georgia World Congress Center and w/in walking distance of about 13,000 - 15,000 hotel rooms.
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Post by: thebigbaker on July 03, 2012, 01:37:53 PM
What's wrong with 2013?

Maybe he's triskaidekaphobic  ;D

Ha, not quite.  Got married on Jan 13, 2007...Friday the 13th!
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Post by: theDarkSide on July 03, 2012, 01:57:22 PM
What's wrong with 2013?

Maybe he's triskaidekaphobic  ;D

Ha, not quite.  Got married on Jan 13, 2007...Friday the 13th!
:)
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Post by: morticaixavier on July 03, 2012, 02:43:10 PM
Ohh ohh I know... but I can't tell... they might throw me in the river.
Oh come on Drew. Even if they DO throw in the river it's L.A. right? you just pick yourself up, dust off, pull the used syringe out of your bottom and walk back up the concrete viaduct. It's not like your even going to get wet!
Title: NHC 2014?
Post by: denny on July 03, 2012, 03:49:05 PM
I can't say anything about where it might be, but I can tell you that I haven't heard any mention of Atlanta.


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Post by: theDarkSide on July 03, 2012, 05:06:08 PM
I can't say anything about where it might be, but I can tell you that I haven't heard any mention of Atlanta.


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Ya' know, Fred said the same thing on the shuttle back to the airport.  I think you guys are just touting the party line  ;).

Honestly, I'd like to survive Philly before worrying about 2014, but I understanding the people who can't make it next year.  I was in that same boat a couple years ago before attending Seattle for my first.
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Post by: gmac on July 03, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
+ 1 for Michigan.  It's about the only way I'll ever be able to attend (unless of course you'd consider Toronto)  :)
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Post by: brewmichigan on July 03, 2012, 05:45:07 PM
Denny or Drew, would you mind posting some info on how a site is chosen and what criteria it has to meet to even be considered. Just curious when the process starts and what is involved.
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Post by: denny on July 03, 2012, 05:57:51 PM
The process starts a couple years in advance of a conference when a local club puts together a "bid" (non financial) to have the conference at their location.  They submit info on their ability to pull off final round judging, suitable locations, and volunteer resources available other things.  There's an online Google doc describing the process, but I don't have the link available on my iPad.  If someone doesn't post it, I will later.


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Post by: dbeechum on July 03, 2012, 06:09:44 PM
Here's the basic document:
http://ahaclubs.homebrewersassociation.org/NHCplanningguide

Usually two folks spearhead the bidding process, build a consortium of nutty individuals to handle different efforts and then work with Gary and Kate at the AHA to really put the polish on something. For instance, the conference in SD was put together by folks from at least 4 different clubs from SD to LA. Lots of time and energy.

Big problems for the conference right now is our growth is impacting locations we can go to. Does your area have a hotel complex that can host 2000-2500 people?

There are changes that coming down the pike where more of the mundane tasks will be handled by a core group from year to year that works with the local group to ensure a smooth conference. For instance, this year was the first time we had a paid Beer Services team to handle moving kegs in and out of the cellar and deliveries to where the kegs were needed. This was by far and away the biggest change that needed to happen because man, cellar sucks and it's a huge burden to ask a couple of local folks to give up their shot at the conference to do that task.
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Post by: brewmichigan on July 03, 2012, 07:30:25 PM
Thanks Denny and Drew.

The thing I worry about it this event is becoming so big that only a handful of cities in the US can really support that many people for an event. When you also take into account that of the cities that can host an event like this, how many of them are "craft beer-centric"? Seattle and San Diego were great because they are great beer cities and have the support from multiple homebrew clubs. I'm sure Utah won't be in the mix for awhile  :D
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Post by: bluesman on July 03, 2012, 08:02:33 PM
There's so many tasks that come into play when organizing a conference that will accomodate 2500 people for several days.  Each city and state have their own local laws that pertain. I know that the AHA has become more and more involved with Pro-brewers night, as it's just easier for them to do in most cases.  It's a balancing act that Gary and company have learned so well. 

As Drew has pointed out the AHA's growth as well as the popularity of NHC have comlicated matters with regards to accomodationing the amount of folks necessary to meet the demand. It's becoming more and more difficult to host a conference without moving up to the next size venue which then poses a whole new set of issues and concerns not to mention cost.
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Post by: bonjour on July 04, 2012, 02:41:04 AM
Here's the basic document:
http://ahaclubs.homebrewersassociation.org/NHCplanningguide
 ...
Big problems for the conference right now is our growth is impacting locations we can go to. Does your area have a hotel complex that can host 2000-2500 people?
2000-3000+
Proximity of hotels is also a consideration.  2 to 3000 homebrewers, essentially an unlimited supply of beer,  drink up then "Drive" to your hotel room?   I don't think so.
 and as Drew said
Here's the basic document:
http://ahaclubs.homebrewersassociation.org/NHCplanningguide
Usually two folks spearhead the bidding process, build a consortium of nutty individuals to handle different efforts and then work with Gary and Kate at the AHA to really put the polish on something. For instance, the conference in SD was put together by folks from at least 4 different clubs from SD to LA. Lots of time and energy.
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Post by: denny on July 04, 2012, 03:55:29 PM
Thanks Denny and Drew.

The thing I worry about it this event is becoming so big that only a handful of cities in the US can really support that many people for an event. When you also take into account that of the cities that can host an event like this, how many of them are "craft beer-centric"? Seattle and San Diego were great because they are great beer cities and have the support from multiple homebrew clubs. I'm sure Utah won't be in the mix for awhile  :D

That's definitely an issue we've discussed, Mike.  I wish I could say we have a good answer, but at this point we're searching for a solution.  There's been talk of multiple conferences spread around the country, but that's completely unworkable from a staff power and cost standpoint.
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Post by: Hokerer on July 04, 2012, 09:02:32 PM
Ohh ohh I know... but I can't tell... they might throw me in the river.

Hmm, throw you in the river?  N'awlins would be a rockin' NHC location
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Post by: denny on July 04, 2012, 09:16:08 PM
Ohh ohh I know... but I can't tell... they might throw me in the river.

Hmm, throw you in the river?  N'awlins would be a rockin' NHC location

How many clubs are in the area?  How many volunteers could they get?  Have they ever run a first round comp for the AHA to see they're able to do the second round?  Many BJCP judges in the area?
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Post by: punatic on July 04, 2012, 10:18:13 PM
I heard NHC 2014 was going to be in Volcano Village, Hawaii.
Title: NHC 2014?
Post by: denny on July 04, 2012, 10:25:16 PM
I heard NHC 2014 was going to be in Volcano Village, Hawaii.

Fine with me!  You're the organizing committee!  ;)


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Post by: Hokerer on July 04, 2012, 10:38:54 PM
Ohh ohh I know... but I can't tell... they might throw me in the river.

Hmm, throw you in the river?  N'awlins would be a rockin' NHC location

How many clubs are in the area?  How many volunteers could they get?  Have they ever run a first round comp for the AHA to see they're able to do the second round?  Many BJCP judges in the area?

Aw, c'mon.  Don't ruin my fun with practicality :( 

Think Cajun food, Acme Oyster House, Central Grocery, open container, Bourbon St, and the list goes on and on and on...  :)
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Post by: punatic on July 05, 2012, 12:14:59 AM
It's been 16 years since there was a NHC in NOLA.  That was hands down the best one I've been to.

If NHC 2014 is in NOLA I'll swim through the Panama Canal to get there if I have to!
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Post by: bonjour on July 05, 2012, 12:55:32 AM
I heard NHC 2014 was going to be in Volcano Village, Hawaii.
Hey,  I'm in!
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Post by: micsager on July 09, 2012, 09:10:55 PM
I also heard Atlanta, but Michigan would be good too.  At the rate it's growing, they are going to need them at places like the Meadowlands or better yet, Gillette Stadium  ;D

I heard rumors of Grand Rapids, MI.  Also heard Atlanta.  There were lots of folks saying different places. 

Portland has a great beer scene.  But, with it just at Seattle, that may be many years off.
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Post by: bonjour on July 09, 2012, 11:11:23 PM
It is a case of who has submitted viable bids.  Two are submitted next door and in subsequent years then that is where they are likely to be.

Given a choice they will move around as best as they can.  No one is favoring one part of the country over another.
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Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 10, 2012, 01:58:09 AM
The Conference and Competition have been growing like crazy. That limits the hotel to a conference hotel with big rooms, or an attached conference center (like Oakland). In 2002 there were 247 that attended. In 2012 there were ~1850, and that was limited by the hotel size. Gary Glass said they are looking at 2500 for Philly, and that or more after Philly. This limits where it can be, and it will be limited more in the future.

Interesting to look at where the conference has been, attendance, and NHC entries.
http://www.ahaconference.org/conference-information/past-conferences/
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Post by: bluesman on July 10, 2012, 02:20:29 AM
I heard NHC 2014 was going to be in Volcano Village, Hawaii.
Hey,  I'm in!

sign me up!  8)

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Post by: punatic on July 10, 2012, 02:30:06 AM
I heard NHC 2014 was going to be in Volcano Village, Hawaii.
Hey,  I'm in!

sign me up!  8)

Alright!  We got four so far.