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Title: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: oscarvan on June 30, 2012, 10:42:14 PM
OK, this one is out of control. I mean, there's 5.25 gallons in a 6 gallon bucket, 1.070 OG for a Russian Imperialish Stout, and two smack packs. This thing has been bubbling out of the bucket for 12 hours now.....I've had to mop up the lid every half hour, and it ain't stopping...... (24 hours since pitching) Finally I broke down and stuck a hose in it to a 1 gallon bucket and there's an inch of beer in there..... (I plan on putting it in a soda bottle and carbonating and drinking it.....) Heck, at the rate we're going there will be nothing left in the bucket!  :o

I've had to mop up a lid before.....but eight times in 6 hours?

Anyone else seen this?

(BTW, brewed batch # 80 today........    8)  )
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: The Professor on July 01, 2012, 12:29:09 AM
You definitely need a bigger bucket.  A 7 or 8 gallon one would be ideal.  To my mind, a six gallon one is just too small, especially for a brew like that where you're really giving the yeasties a feast (actually, a six gal bucket for even a normal 5.25 gal of beer can be pushing one's luck a bit, if the yeasties are really active). 

In the future you could install a blowoff and avoid the mopping (but still potentially lose a lot of beer...not worth it in my book).

I still maintain that a bigger fermentor is the best solution. I'm still using a 7 gal glass acid carboy  for 5 gal batches and have had only one blowout in 23 years (and it was my fault...I overpitched a fresh yeast cake a bit too massively).  Eventually though, I will probably switch back to a bucket sooner or later.  I've seen some very nice 7 and 8 gal brew buckets, even some very translucent ones, that would cover the problem easily.
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: Hokerer on July 01, 2012, 12:47:04 AM
I've had to mop up a lid before.....but eight times in 6 hours?

Anyone else seen this?

Here's a pic of a blowoff I had recently,  yes, that's a 5000ml flask...

(http://joekusterer.x10.mx/WeeBlowOff.jpg)

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11182.msg142052#msg142052 (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=11182.msg142052#msg142052)
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: dannyjed on July 01, 2012, 01:05:43 AM
The Imperial Stout I made in winter even left gunk in the blow off tube in an 8 gallon bucket.  I hope you don't lose too much to the beer gods.
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: roguejim on July 01, 2012, 02:02:31 AM
Are you able to control your fermentation temp?  How high is it?
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: oscarvan on July 01, 2012, 02:16:27 AM
Temp is fully under control (chest freezer with temp controller)......66ºF.......

OK, is there such a thing as a food grade 7 gallon bucket? I need 8 please......
Title: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: andrew000141 on July 01, 2012, 10:29:11 AM
I have a 7 and a half gallon bucket and recently I used wyeast whitbread ale for the first time the thing had a 10 hr lag time then exploded with activity I had krausen in my airlock and now it's permanently stained brown lol
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: dannyjed on July 01, 2012, 01:00:15 PM
Temp is fully under control (chest freezer with temp controller)......66ºF.......

OK, is there such a thing as a food grade 7 gallon bucket? I need 8 please......
I use these http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/7-9-gal-fermenting-bucket.html
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: ethalacker on July 01, 2012, 03:21:00 PM
I love this yeast. I use it for a couple of my english ales.  Always is a very active fermentation.  After the first time cleaning out a fridge I've used a blow of tube since, but a bigger vessel would be better!
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: oscarvan on July 02, 2012, 08:41:36 AM
OK, the beast has finally calmed down.....figure I lost about 2 qts. Installed a hose and salvaged one qt and put it in a soda bottle with CO2 on it.....will see what the gravity is later. Need to get a bigger bucket for this animal!
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: oly on July 02, 2012, 09:28:59 PM
Brewcraft makes a nice 8 gallon bucket.
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: jeffy on July 02, 2012, 09:33:17 PM
Next time you may want to collect the blow-off in a sanitized vessel and pitch into your next batch.  It sounds like a really good top-cropping yeast.
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: linenoiz on July 03, 2012, 03:58:10 PM
Build yourself  Burton Union (http://www.byo.com/stories/projects-and-equipment/article/indices/20-build-it-yourself/354-build-a-burton-union-system-projects).
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: tonyp on July 03, 2012, 05:03:08 PM
You could always split the batch into two 5gal buckets...
Title: Re: Wyeast London Ale III
Post by: kylekohlmorgen on July 06, 2012, 01:46:17 PM
Build yourself  Burton Union (http://www.byo.com/stories/projects-and-equipment/article/indices/20-build-it-yourself/354-build-a-burton-union-system-projects).

How does he come up with this stuff?

Probably a trivial addition to the brewery, but a cool idea, nonetheless, especially if you just use it for top-cropping.