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Title: Big 'old hops
Post by: ccfoo242 on July 21, 2012, 04:13:03 AM
These suckers are getting long!

(http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/yy347/stbloomfield_bucket/20120720_193209.jpg)


Sent from the future...
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: DrewG on July 24, 2012, 01:50:14 PM
Mine are just starting to "bud".

Of course, I'm in Michigan.
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: ccfoo242 on July 24, 2012, 02:03:00 PM
I had some bud really early but I didn't fertilize them until after. Once I fertilized some they started budding again and now they're way bigger than the originals.
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: DrewG on July 24, 2012, 02:04:38 PM
Cool, thanks for the heads up. What did you use for fertilizer?
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: weithman5 on July 24, 2012, 02:14:11 PM
i expect a poor harvest this year due to drought. (and forgetting i can water)
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: ccfoo242 on July 24, 2012, 02:17:59 PM
Cool, thanks for the heads up. What did you use for fertilizer?

Miracle Grow. I used Miracle Grow potting soil when I first planted but it didn't last as long as I thought it would. (these are in pots)

I think this is what I used:
http://www.scotts.com/smg/catalog/productTemplate.jsp?proId=prod70342&itemId=cat50106

I overdid it at first and burned a few leaves but it's recovered now and I just add half a tablespoon every 2 weeks now.
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: Pinski on July 24, 2012, 02:19:57 PM
These suckers are getting long!

(http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/yy347/stbloomfield_bucket/20120720_193209.jpg)


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Very nice, those are some long cones. What variety are you growing?
Title: Re: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: ccfoo242 on July 24, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
These suckers are getting long!

(http://i806.photobucket.com/albums/yy347/stbloomfield_bucket/20120720_193209.jpg)


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Very nice, those are some long cones. What variety are you growing?

Zeus.

Cascade have just started to bud but the Zeus grew extremely fast.

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Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: kylekohlmorgen on July 24, 2012, 02:41:53 PM
Unfortunately, my newly-planted rhizomes didn't take off at all this year. The cascade came up about 3" out of the ground, and the centennials didn't pop out.

I was going to take a pic, but just imagine a bare dirt pile...

Maybe they're just getting HUGE root balls underground for next year?
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: DrewG on July 24, 2012, 03:41:01 PM
I planted columbus, chinook and cascade. Chinooks were the only ones that took off. I got those rhizomes from a local hop farmer, vs the others from an online retailer.

Interesting (to me anyway) that one of the 3 is MUCH taller than the other 2. By a good 2-3 feet.
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: erockrph on July 24, 2012, 04:09:59 PM
I planted Cascade, Mt Hood and Willamette this year. Had some bug issues (but not Japanese Beetles amazingly). I have one bine on each that are in the 6-8 foot range and a few on each that are under a foot. No buds yet, and I'm not even sure if I'll end up with any. Just hoping the roots are growing strongly enough to get a good harvest next year.
Title: Big 'old hops
Post by: majorvices on July 24, 2012, 04:15:48 PM
They look big, but they don't look old.
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: ccfoo242 on July 24, 2012, 04:40:38 PM
They look big, but they don't look old.

I guess I meant 'ol instead of old, just talkin' down home like.  :P
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: majorvices on July 24, 2012, 05:21:20 PM
"Big 'ol hops" .... now I get it.  ;)
Title: Re: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: Titanium Brewing on July 24, 2012, 06:46:49 PM
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Cascade have just started to bud but the Zeus grew extremely fast.


I am experiencing the opposite, my Cascade is budding big time, and my Zeus is barely growing
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: DrewG on July 25, 2012, 06:24:15 PM
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I guess I meant 'ol instead of old, just talkin' down home like.  :P

Totally different, 'ol and and old.

Kinda like "y'all" and "ALL y'all"
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: pinnah on July 25, 2012, 06:34:29 PM
Wow yous gots you some longass cones there! 8)

Usuns never seen Zeus like that;; jou get um from Dave @Freshops?







The Zeus I have yield tight and dense cones, and go thump in the bottom of a picking bucket...
I got some Columbus just to compare for myself, and they look and smell exactly the same as teh Zeus.

Zeus: (http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/757.jpg)


Columbus:

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/Columbus2012.jpg)


My first harvest is in the oast.
Cheers to yours! 


Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: kramerog on July 25, 2012, 06:38:12 PM
My Cascades are much bigger this year than in the past 3 years.  They also look like they will be ready earlier than in previous years.  I think the unusually hot summer in Chicagoland is the reason, but a little fertilizer probably didn't hurt.
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: ccfoo242 on July 25, 2012, 07:12:55 PM
Usuns never seen Zeus like that;; jou get um from Dave @Freshops?
Yep!




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The Zeus I have yield tight and dense cones, and go thump in the bottom of a picking bucket...
I got some Columbus just to compare for myself, and they look and smell exactly the same as teh Zeus.

Zeus: (http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/757.jpg)


Columbus:

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/Columbus2012.jpg)


My first harvest is in the oast.
Cheers to yours!

Looks great!
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: erockrph on July 25, 2012, 09:32:03 PM
Columbus:

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/Columbus2012.jpg)


You're using sunflowers to train your hops bines on? Looks like an awesome idea. If I ever move my hops out of containers I will have to try this. What variety of sunflower are you using?
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: tubercle on July 25, 2012, 09:45:13 PM
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I guess I meant 'ol instead of old, just talkin' down home like.  :P

Totally different, 'ol and and old.

Kinda like "y'all" and "ALL y'all"

(http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww207/tubercle_photo/CountryDog.jpg)
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: pinnah on July 25, 2012, 10:53:21 PM
Columbus:

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/Columbus2012.jpg)


You're using sunflowers to train your hops bines on? Looks like an awesome idea. If I ever move my hops out of containers I will have to try this. What variety of sunflower are you using?

We had a super mild winter, and that is standing dead from last year.  Birds did not even eat all the seeds! ::)

I bet the super big sunflowers would work the best, big and sturdy.  This probably would work best with new plants or just additional climbing opportunities adjacent to some real support (eg rebar poles in background).  Cheers.  Hops can grow on anything.
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: b-hoppy on July 26, 2012, 04:48:59 PM
I'm with Pinnah about the cone structure.  My Zeus are dense to the point that it's hard to peel them apart to check how the goodies are progressing.  Very little male bloom this year on them so they must like it hot and dry.

As for some of the other comments about different varieties coming ripe before others, hops tend to grow with a lot of variability until they become established - and depending on your growing conditions, that may be as long as 3 and possibly 4 years in some cases.  Once they're established you can usually begin to pick up the little quirks that each variety may possess.  It all takes time so enjoy the ride!
Title: Re: Big 'old hops
Post by: Titanium Brewing on July 26, 2012, 11:42:47 PM
(http://titaniumbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/20120726-163636.jpg)

This one fell off my Cascade