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Title: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 08, 2012, 08:33:41 PM
Guess I'm getting old. 8)

I've been living in this house for four years. I have witnessed many thousands of drivers use my poor driveway as a turn-around for any variety of vehicles frequently including some heavy trucks. My neighbors I can tolerate but the 10-15 vehicles day and night that whip into my driveway, back out and drive off the way they were going has me at the end of my wits.

The drive way is ruined and I can't afford to replace it right now. And if I did it would be reduced in short order by the constant traffic. >:(

For the first six months I stacked a couple rock cairns about 2' high blocking access with just enough room for my VW to squeeze by. I'd come home to rocks knocked off the tops daily but got little satisfaction from imagining their scratched bumpers. Then I decided this made me look like I was a crazy person so got rid of the rocks. I also tried positioning the flood lights right into the windshields so the glare would be a deterrent. This has been unsuccessful.

Short of a gate- which would look odd as I have no fence what can be done to stop this constant traffic? I know you are a clever enterprising bunch. Any thoughts and suggestions that would help my situation?
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: morticaixavier on August 08, 2012, 08:37:35 PM
pit trap. Definitely pit trap.

About 7 or 8 feet deep, cover it with a garage door reinforced to be strong enough for you car. when you need to use the drive way close it and drive over, the rest of the time keep it open and if anyone tries to use your drive way they will just fall in. Then work out a kick back deal with the local tow guys and you might even make a few bucks!  ;D

seriously though, have you tried a sign? Maybe a couple posts with a chain across?
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: Pinski on August 08, 2012, 08:41:02 PM
Retractable spike strip?  ::)

Are you at the end of a dead end street Euge?

Why does everyone use your driveway?

I know, get one of those sprinklers that are activated by an optic sensor and hope you catch a convertable AND you could "treat" your water in various ways to make it less benign.

Damn I love plotting spiteful retribution of inconsideration.   ;D
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: gymrat on August 08, 2012, 08:46:16 PM
How about a sign?
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: erockrph on August 08, 2012, 08:47:25 PM
How about some orange traffic cones?
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 08, 2012, 08:47:46 PM
Hahaha!

I am the third house on the left. The street is not a dead end. For some reason it is inviting for divers to pull into.

The chain is a decent idea. Two 4x4 posts st in the ground with a chain stretched across? Man I'd love it when they drove into that at night! ;D

I was considering a sign in the vein of a political campaign... I want a definite no if's and's or but's deterrent!
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: Joe Sr. on August 08, 2012, 08:59:44 PM
I think if you did the chain, which is not a bad idea, it would be wise to put reflectors on it and perhaps a sign that says "private property."
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: punatic on August 08, 2012, 09:10:17 PM
Sink a couple of 6" metal fence posts in concrete and stretch a heavy chain across the driveway.  Be sure that the chain is highly visibilty.

I know from experience that truck drivers do not care what they drive over and destroy.  They will only avoid driving over something if it will damage their truck.

One water system I operate has valves in a valve vault in the ground on a street corner where dump trucks drive a lot.  The dump trucks were constantly driving over the vault and smashing it.  I installed 5 concrete filled steel bollards on the corner.  The bollards are immoveable.  Several truck drivers have damaged their trucks trying to run over the bollards.    The truck drivers do not cut the corner anymore.
Title: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: majorvices on August 08, 2012, 09:32:54 PM
How about a toll booth? Sounds like, what with thousands of drivers turning around, you could pay for a new driveway in no time. 8)
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 08, 2012, 09:36:56 PM
You mean like this!?

VESTIL Steel Bollards - Pour in Place Model - Yellow (http://www.amazon.com/VESTIL-Steel-Bollards-Place-Yellow/dp/B005GQBOV2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344461187&sr=8-1&keywords=steel+bollards)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21NMv5oaPVL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
or maybe this?
Safety Steel Bollard With Chain Slots 48" x 4.5" Yellow (http://www.amazon.com/Safety-Steel-Bollard-Chain-Yellow/dp/B00843ZPHI/ref=sr_1_40?ie=UTF8&qid=1344461402&sr=8-40&keywords=steel+bollards)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21Rp7EbQLaL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

That's giving me some ideas. I could even put some solar lights on top of each post!

How about a toll booth? Sounds like, what with thousands of drivers turning around, you could pay for a new driveway in no time. 8)

Then I could sit back, drink beer and not have to work! ;D
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: weazletoe on August 08, 2012, 09:39:01 PM
Get some of them big steel poles that retract in the ground, like they have to rout traffic in the UK. Someone unwanted drives in, poles shoot up, and their car teeters there. Expensive as crap? Yes. Hilarious? YES!!!
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: Slowbrew on August 08, 2012, 09:48:15 PM
Steel posts with "Police - Crime Scene - Do not cross" tape stretched across the drive.  Make sure to paint body outlines on the drive near the street and scatter some pieces of red and yellow plastic around. 

It might them wonder if it was their car?   :)

Paul
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: loopy on August 09, 2012, 12:44:53 AM
how about parking your car at the farthest part of the driveway, where your back bumper would be even with the street.  Seems that would be an effective deterrent. 
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 09, 2012, 12:53:49 AM
how about parking your car at the farthest part of the driveway, where your back bumper would be even with the street.  Seems that would be an effective deterrent.

Believe me I've considered this^^^! However the reason I bought a house with a garage is so that I could park my cars in there. No break-ins. No sun damage. ;)
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: bluesman on August 09, 2012, 12:57:37 AM
Another idea is to install a gate.  A large chain would be cheaper and serve the purpose as well.  A sign is the cheapest and easiest but wouldn't be nearly as effective.  I was going to suggest a spiked strip but then you'll have even more problems.  ;D
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: erockrph on August 09, 2012, 01:09:38 AM
Maybe you could commission some 3D art for your driveway:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUYlNU10BMY/SnA0icI98bI/AAAAAAAAc-4/CGlyziFbAcI/s400/pavement-art-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: AleForce on August 09, 2012, 01:57:29 AM
Maybe a sign that sign that says "Watch for broken Glass and nails on right" (or left) or " SORRY Not Responsible for Flat Tires" next to your driveway.... Or "U-Turn Next Right"...
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: weazletoe on August 09, 2012, 02:07:18 AM
Rig some hidden loudspeakers to blast the sound of a few AK-47's. Much cheaper than my last idea, and just as hilarious.

Or, how bout a sign that reads exactly the same as the title of your post?  ;D
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 09, 2012, 02:07:54 AM
Maybe a sign that sign that says "Watch for broken Glass and nails on right" (or left) or " SORRY Not Responsible for Flat Tires" next to your driveway....

oooh. That is a good one!

I was thinking about scattering some caltrops... ;)

Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 09, 2012, 02:08:24 AM
Maybe you could commission some 3D art for your driveway:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUYlNU10BMY/SnA0icI98bI/AAAAAAAAc-4/CGlyziFbAcI/s400/pavement-art-02.jpg)

Dude i got vertigo looking at that! +!
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 09, 2012, 02:10:54 AM
Or, how bout a sign that reads exactly the same as the title of your post?  ;D

Dude I'm thinking about that sign hanging from a chain. Might say several things!
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: AleForce on August 09, 2012, 02:24:25 AM
Or a sign that says "Private Drive Protected By The 2nd Amendment!"
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: punatic on August 09, 2012, 02:30:51 AM
You need to be careful, after all, they know where you live.  Keep it civil.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 09, 2012, 02:32:38 AM
You need to be careful, after all, they know where you live.  Keep it civil.

That's right. The lynch pin of this whole conundrum. :o
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: phillamb168 on August 09, 2012, 08:06:19 AM
A pressure-sensitive plate buried in the driveway that triggers after 1 ton a focused electromagnetic burst, disabling the truck.

Or what about a really deep narrow ditch? You can put up some panels of OSB or something to drive over when you get home, and then take it back.

Of course the solution that would work for everybody, and look really nice as a bonus, would be to redo the driveway with pavers. If one breaks you can replace it fairly easily, as opposed to having to pour a huge concrete patch.

One final option, which might work best of all, here in France a lot of driveways are demarcated by two brick pillars, one on either side. For cars bigger than a certain width you just can't get through without scraping. You can put a couple plants or lights on top, and voila a solution that looks nicer than a couple tank traps. You might want to set up a surveillance camera facing the driveway so in case a truck decides to test it (and subsequently knocks over the bricks, damaging a part of your house) you can capture the license plate info and call the cops on 'em.

Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: piszkiewiczp on August 09, 2012, 12:38:04 PM
There is one potential reality check on any construction plans. Whoever owns the street, city, county, state, etc, usually owns a right-of-way on either side. Your catch-22 here is that you are responsible for the upkeep, but the may object to any large structures being placed near the street.

That said, if you're old enough to remember when gas stations were not all self-serve, they all had pneumatic rubber hoses laid across the driveways to trigger bells. This would alert the "friendly & curtious" attendent to run out and pump your gas. This old tech could be used to trigger some other effects like strobes or sirens.

Alternatively, how about a large and imposing object at that isn't? I'm thinking of an inflatible Jersey barrier or K-rail. You see these as traffic barriers on road construction all the time. Most are solid concrete and weigh a ton. I've seen some made of plastic that are filled with water. Empty plastic or an air filled thick vinyl equivalent may be more than a driver is willing to risk.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: dak0415 on August 09, 2012, 01:26:52 PM
+1 To Phil's suggestion about the brick structures, with this addendum.  The pillar on the right would be built on a 1" treated wood pallet.  Not really movable but not really permanent either, unless you bolt it to the driveway.  Either way, if the city decides to exercise their right of way, you can move it with an appliance type hand truck.

The pillar on the the right is built on a furniture dolly.  Easily movable if you WANTED a big car or truck in your driveway.  You could then mount signs, chains, etc. on your dandy new yard deco to your hearts content.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 09, 2012, 01:38:53 PM
If I put posts in they'll have to be a foot or so back from the side-walk. Was thinking about finding a traffic cone to put right in between the entrance but some kid will certainly steal it. So then the thought of those orange home-depot buckets came to mind. Cheap- less than $5 and I have some gravel I can fill the bucket to hold a 1x2 with a sign tacked on it.

When the sign gets hit and knocked over all I'll need to do is set it upright and maybe scoop some gravel back into the bucket.

I want to be obtrusive enough to deter the vehicles pulling in but not to where it inconveniences me.

And Phil- pavers or bricks are certainly the way to go. When it comes time I may just level the low spots with sand and place them right over the concrete myself.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: redbeerman on August 09, 2012, 01:46:03 PM
gun..................tower 8)  JK BTW
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: thebigbaker on August 09, 2012, 02:28:21 PM
A moat.  Every castle needs a moat!
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: dak0415 on August 09, 2012, 02:30:43 PM
A moat.  Every castle needs a moat!
With Alligators!
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: Hokerer on August 09, 2012, 04:25:00 PM
A moat.  Every castle needs a moat!
With Alligators!

Better yet, sharks with lasers on their heads!
Title: Re: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: Mark G on August 09, 2012, 05:15:35 PM
A moat.  Every castle needs a moat!
With Alligators!

Better yet, sharks with lasers on their heads!
That shoot bees out of their mouth!
Title: Re: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: dak0415 on August 09, 2012, 05:47:31 PM
A moat.  Every castle needs a moat!
With Alligators!

Better yet, sharks with lasers on their heads!
That shoot bees out of their mouth!
Nah! Sharks are too high maintenance, and then there are the batteries for the lasers...
You just have to throw the alligators a truck river every couple of weeks and they'll be fine.
Title: Re: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 09, 2012, 06:36:14 PM
A moat.  Every castle needs a moat!
With Alligators!

Better yet, sharks with lasers on their heads!
That shoot bees out of their mouth!
Nah! Sharks are too high maintenance, and then there are the batteries for the lasers...
You just have to throw the alligators a truck river driver every couple of weeks and they'll be fine.

Maybe some of those little punks that shamble past will fall in too!
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 09, 2012, 07:52:08 PM
OK!

I went to Home Despot and found a 28" cone and a "prohibido la entrada" sign all for $18. Went the easy minimalist route. Hope this works...

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o8J6muCqHiE/UCQS0tSd3wI/AAAAAAAAAgw/RNv9YkqxXrE/s640/2012-08-09%252014.40.25.jpg)
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: boapiu on August 09, 2012, 08:22:34 PM
Spread a box of roofing nails and keep refreshing it for a couple weeks. Then get in touch with the local garage and ask for a commission on the uptick in tire patching biz they get. Of course, you can't use your own drive for a while but any repeat customers will soon get the idea.
My other idea is to put some railroad ties across and buy yourself a big four wheel drive. But that could cost too much.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 09, 2012, 08:54:57 PM
I'm wondering if what I've done is a little unsociable...

I'll remove the sign. Not really in my nature and I don't want to make my neighbors think that I'm like that. The cone alone is enough. 8)
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: punatic on August 09, 2012, 11:54:08 PM
There's plenty of room out here in the boonies.  The neighbors are friendly and no one uses the driveways for turnarounds.

We're in great need of medical professionals here.  ;)
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: weazletoe on August 10, 2012, 12:22:21 AM
How are ya set for pant less sheet metal fabricators?  ;)
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: weithman5 on August 10, 2012, 01:13:51 AM
There's plenty of room out here in the boonies.  The neighbors are friendly and no one uses the driveways for turnarounds.

We're in great need of medical professionals here.  ;)

hmmmm.  i am thinking of leaving this state sometime.  i enjoyed living in mililani
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: maxieboy on August 12, 2012, 11:27:02 PM
How are ya set for pant less sheet metal fabricators?  ;)

I've got this one. They're good.  ;D
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: boulderbrewer on August 14, 2012, 04:39:37 AM
I would go the claymore(or IED) route. Works in the middle east!

 How about a radioactive sign on the cone. Just give your neighbors a heads up before.
Heck, Just get a kid to sell lemonade rent free at the front of your drive way.
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Post by: ccfoo242 on August 14, 2012, 07:44:34 PM
Maybe you could commission some 3D art for your driveway:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IUYlNU10BMY/SnA0icI98bI/AAAAAAAAc-4/CGlyziFbAcI/s400/pavement-art-02.jpg)

Dude i got vertigo looking at that! +!

Too funny. I was just about to suggest this. Maybe an image of a wall.

Sent from the future...
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: Vin S on August 14, 2012, 08:12:12 PM
Go to a tag sale and find a kids bike or tricycle or small kid toys place at end of the driveway. No one wants to hit a kid and also might make them slow down.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: punatic on August 14, 2012, 10:37:03 PM
Go to a tag sale and find a kids bike or tricycle or small kid toys place at end of the driveway. No one wants to hit a kid and also might make them slow down.

That is an excellent idea!
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: tubercle on August 14, 2012, 11:47:25 PM
I have the same thing happen to me. Apparantly GPS directions to somewhere is wrong or something and I get about 20 turnarounds everyday. About 10 times every night after dark and it drives the dog crazy because when the cars turn around the headlights flash through a big picture window into the den.

I made a cardboard sign and staked it at the edge of the drive: HEY YOU NO-DRIVING IDIOT: YOU MISSED YOUR TURN!

 I took it down after a week because of all the horn blowing.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: repo on August 15, 2012, 12:48:09 AM
One of those neon green cutouts of a kid that say caution/slow children in place of your cone should do the trick. It shouldn't get run over like a cone. A couple trees or some shrubbery by the entrance of your driveway will make it less inviting also.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: weazletoe on August 15, 2012, 03:05:15 AM
How are ya set for pant less sheet metal fabricators?  ;)

I've got this one. They're good.  ;D
  Ouch.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on August 15, 2012, 02:43:08 PM
So far the cone has done it's job. I saw someone yesterday start to whip in but stopped short of getting the wheels on the concrete.

And no horn-honking! But someone did a drive-by throw-out a bag of trash within 30 minutes of it being there. :-[
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: brewmichigan on August 17, 2012, 01:44:41 PM
So far the cone has done it's job. I saw someone yesterday start to whip in but stopped short of getting the wheels on the concrete.

And no horn-honking! But someone did a drive-by throw-out a bag of trash within 30 minutes of it being there. :-[

Does anybody have respect for the privacy of others anymore? That's horrible. You're trying to keep people off your property and the disrespect you for it. I hardly ever turn around in driveways just because I know I don't care for it. I'll drive around the block first.

I feel for ya. I hope the cone works out in the end.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: weithman5 on August 17, 2012, 02:31:55 PM
! But someone did a drive-by throw-out a bag of trash within 30 minutes of it being there. :-[

i know this sounds bad, but as a teenager my brother threw his empty cans on nice lawns instead of over the railroad tracks like other kids.  i asked him why.  "because those people care about their property and i know they will pick it up and throw it away properly"  twisted logic.  now he gets pissed off if anyone doesn't follow the golf cart tracks properly on my moms farm.  go figure.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: punatic on August 17, 2012, 06:18:12 PM
Does anybody have respect for the privacy of others anymore? That's horrible. You're trying to keep people off your property and the disrespect you for it. I hardly ever turn around in driveways just because I know I don't care for it. I'll drive around the block first.

If I have to turn around, I reverse and do a two-point turn.  It doesn't take as much road width to turn around (your steering wheels are behind - like on a fork lift) and often times the road is wide enough to do this kind of turn around without using anyone's driveway.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: mmalpacas1@yahoo.com on November 28, 2015, 02:06:16 PM
Guess I'm getting old. 8)

I've been living in this house for four years. I have witnessed many thousands of drivers use my poor driveway as a turn-around for any variety of vehicles frequently including some heavy trucks. My neighbors I can tolerate but the 10-15 vehicles day and night that whip into my driveway, back out and drive off the way they were going has me at the end of my wits.

The drive way is ruined and I can't afford to replace it right now. And if I did it would be reduced in short order by the constant traffic. >:(

For the first six months I stacked a couple rock cairns about 2' high blocking access with just enough room for my VW to squeeze by. I'd come home to rocks knocked off the tops daily but got little satisfaction from imagining their scratched bumpers. Then I decided this made me look like I was a crazy person so got rid of the rocks. I also tried positioning the flood lights right into the windshields so the glare would be a deterrent. This has been unsuccessful.

Short of a gate- which would look odd as I have no fence what can be done to stop this constant traffic? I know you are a clever enterprising bunch. Any thoughts and suggestions that would help my situation?
I have the same problem,not as many cars.Along with the damage comes the attitudes like I'm the bad guy.An obsessive search turned up a rubber item,"Drivewayspikes" .So far it's working when I'm home to watch my driveway.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: 1vertical on November 28, 2015, 05:29:05 PM
Euge,
Hi.... been a while.  Out here in BFE whyo....we have a device called a "cattleguard"
I know they are in your neck of the woods as well....install one and that could be the
foundation for your chain, or....remote controlled rolling spike strip or .....etc.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: majorvices on November 29, 2015, 02:50:35 AM
Old thread, old faces. makes me feel old.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on December 22, 2015, 08:44:26 PM
On my third cone. Damn kids kept stealing the cone until I filled it with concrete. The was two years ago...

And Vert I'd like to get a cattle guard and an electric gate lol.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: pete b on December 22, 2015, 11:46:52 PM
If you look at the dates of the posts on this thread its funny. I like it. Cool life cycle.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: beersk on December 23, 2015, 01:09:04 AM
Old thread, old faces. makes me feel old.
Makes me sad. A lot of these guys don't post here anymore...
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: euge on December 23, 2015, 01:45:30 AM
Old thread, old faces. makes me feel old.
Makes me sad. A lot of these guys don't post here anymore...

Homebrewers fall by the wayside. Raise one for them and yourselves!
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: Joe Sr. on December 23, 2015, 03:57:25 AM
Old thread, old faces. makes me feel old.
Makes me sad. A lot of these guys don't post here anymore...

Homebrewers fall by the wayside. Raise one for them and yourselves!

Somewhere in Hawaii Carl is having a beer with Diki Short.  I'm sure of it.

Damn this is an old thread.
Title: Re: Stay off my f'ing driveway!
Post by: 1vertical on January 01, 2016, 07:01:34 PM
Old thread, old faces. makes me feel old.
Makes me sad. A lot of these guys don't post here anymore...

Homebrewers fall by the wayside. Raise one for them and yourselves!

Somewhere in Hawaii Carl is having a beer Mason Jar of Shine with Diki Short.  I'm sure of it.

Damn this is an old thread.

There fixed it for you