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Title: White Labs vials?
Post by: wiley on August 18, 2012, 12:20:11 AM
After recently making a starter for a rather large brew day, I got to thinking: there's got to be a use for all of these White Labs vials. So, let's hear it -- what's the best use of the vials once they're empty?
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: tonyp on August 18, 2012, 12:50:13 AM
best use i've found so far is recycling...I tried every chemical in the house to get that sticky label glue off but to no avail.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: tygo on August 18, 2012, 01:06:05 AM
I was going to say exchange the labels for yeast coupons at http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/homebrew_customerclub.html.

However, I've never gotten around to trying to get the labels off.  From tony's post that may be easier said than done.

I just throw them into a box when I'm done with them for some unspecified, future use.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: Jimmy K on August 18, 2012, 01:07:27 AM
Tap handles.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: mihalybaci on August 18, 2012, 01:27:34 AM
They're about the right size for saving seeds.

I was going to say exchange the labels for yeast coupons at http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/homebrew_customerclub.html.


You just blew my mind.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: smkranz on August 18, 2012, 12:51:38 PM
When the Spousal Unit packs me a salad for lunch, she uses an empty vial for salad dressing.
Title: White Labs vials?
Post by: majorvices on August 18, 2012, 01:35:44 PM
When the Spousal Unit packs me a salad for lunch, she uses an empty vial for salad dressing.

+1. That's the best use I have found for them as well. I saved the for years in order to do the mail in/free yeast thing but they just piled up and I ended up throwing most of them away.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on August 18, 2012, 02:36:40 PM
If you have good samitation, you can refill with starter wort, you will get a small amount of clean yeast that can be bumped up for another beer.

The LHBS collected the 5000 vials and had Chris White come out for a day.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: wiley on August 18, 2012, 04:08:28 PM
I was going to say exchange the labels for yeast coupons at http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/homebrew_customerclub.html.

I had no idea this was even an option! Awesome!
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: corkybstewart on August 18, 2012, 07:53:20 PM
When the Spousal Unit packs me a salad for lunch, she uses an empty vial for salad dressing.
My wife has used them for her salad dressing for years now.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: musseldoc on August 19, 2012, 11:21:23 AM
Hold on to them until you have enough to turn in for merchandise from White Labs. 
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: jmcamerlengo on August 21, 2012, 06:02:55 PM
Chris White is totally going to have to come to my house.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: james on August 21, 2012, 07:48:03 PM
I was going to say exchange the labels for yeast coupons at http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/homebrew_customerclub.html.

However, I've never gotten around to trying to get the labels off.  From tony's post that may be easier said than done.

I just throw them into a box when I'm done with them for some unspecified, future use.

Getting the labels off is easy, but you end up leaving some backing paper and glue behind.  I've never had any luck getting the glue off either so I pull the labels off, stick the labels in an envelope, and then recycle the vials.

At one point I figured that trading for free yeast coupons was the ideal way to go.  You don't have to pay shipping on the coupon unlike everything else (I doubt you have to pay shipping on the 5000 label prize)

Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: weithman5 on August 21, 2012, 07:58:58 PM
i have cleaned them and put yeast from a harvest in them with a little beer. saved for the next starter.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: lornemagill on August 21, 2012, 09:18:55 PM
i have used them as tubes for some of my smaller cigars.  try wd40 to get the glue off, but it will of course need a thorough cleaning.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: tubercle on August 21, 2012, 09:39:18 PM
I make a big batch of super secret special dry rub for my boston butts and store individual use portions.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: Tim Thomssen on August 21, 2012, 11:23:23 PM
I was going to say exchange the labels for yeast coupons at http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/homebrew_customerclub.html.

However, I've never gotten around to trying to get the labels off.  From tony's post that may be easier said Goo gone worked for me.

than done.

I just throw them into a box when I'm done with them for some unspecified, future use.

Getting the labels off is easy, but you end up leaving some backing paper and glue behind.  I've never had any luck getting the glue off either so I pull the labels off, stick the labels in an envelope, and then recycle the vials.

At one point I figured that trading for free yeast coupons was the ideal way to go.  You don't have to pay shipping on the coupon unlike everything else (I doubt you have to pay shipping on the 5000 label prize)

Something happened to my post.  I have used goo gone to remove the glue after a soak, works pretty well.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: Jimmy K on August 22, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
They're about the right size for saving seeds.

I was going to say exchange the labels for yeast coupons at http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/homebrew_customerclub.html (http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/homebrew_customerclub.html).


You just blew my mind.

Awesome. It says shops can serve as collection points for the 5000 vial reward, so I assume clubs could do the same!
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: AmandaK on August 22, 2012, 12:54:26 PM
I'm in the process of moving my yeast bank from mason jars to preforms (White Labs tubes) using something like this:
(http://dr6fvq41nbvj7.cloudfront.net/img/cache/02268c260f8fff6f7502dd93a20e39be/WBSB-500-6-baby-soda-bottles-in-a-rack-20110802-250x250.jpg)

Should take up a lot less room in my fridge.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: Kaiser on August 22, 2012, 01:32:55 PM
One thing I don't like about the WL vials is that you can't boil them for sanitation. Well you can, but they get all cloudy.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: bluesman on August 22, 2012, 01:41:04 PM
When the Spousal Unit packs me a salad for lunch, she uses an empty vial for salad dressing.

Great idea...I'll have to remember to do that!

I use one to store my pH meter probe. I cut a hole in the lid and the probe conveniently fits in the tube with storage solution.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: phunhog on August 28, 2012, 03:24:58 AM
I use them to store yeast.....what a novel concept! Seriously though....I will step up a starter, crash, and decant the yeast into sanitized vials. Basically I get 6-8 vials for every one that I buy!!  So how does WL sanitize the vials for yeast? Dry heat??
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: Kaiser on August 28, 2012, 03:48:18 AM
So how does WL sanitize the vials for yeast? Dry heat??

I think they come sterile out of the manufacturing process. I doubt there is much that can live in hot plastic.

UV is an option too.

Kai
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: phunhog on August 28, 2012, 03:56:51 AM
So how does WL sanitize the vials for yeast? Dry heat??

I think they come sterile out of the manufacturing process. I doubt there is much that can live in hot plastic.

UV is an option too.

Kai
Hmmm....UV might be an option? Now I completely pulling this out of my....but I do a lot backpacking and I have one of these...http://www.steripen.com/classic  I wonder if I were to fill up a vial with water and use my steripen if that would sanitize the vial??   Probably easier to just continue to dunk them in Star-San.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: Jimmy K on August 28, 2012, 02:30:09 PM
So how does WL sanitize the vials for yeast? Dry heat??

I think they come sterile out of the manufacturing process. I doubt there is much that can live in hot plastic.

UV is an option too.

Kai

But they are probably purchased without caps on them. They could use a strong acid wash followed by a rinse with sterile water.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: wiley on September 24, 2012, 07:48:32 PM
So how does WL sanitize the vials for yeast? Dry heat??

I think they come sterile out of the manufacturing process. I doubt there is much that can live in hot plastic.

UV is an option too.

Kai

I used to do some work for one of White Labs' suppliers of the preforms -- the preforms are (somewhat suprisingly) the precursor to a two liter bottle. On the older tubes, you could take of the band that remains around the screws once the cap is off, revealing a capital "B" for Ball Corporation. Ball has since sold the plastics manufacturing division, but I can't recall who they sold the division to.

From spending a little time in a couple of the the plants, I would be surprised of Chris White hung his hat on the cleanliness of those plants. I'm sure the sterilization process for the preforms follows (at a minimum) the sanitation protocol used for filling glass bottles received from a glass plant.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: blatz on September 24, 2012, 07:56:14 PM
i take my mash pH samples with them.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: Wesbrau on September 24, 2012, 09:26:56 PM
From the fine print on Whitelabs.com Customer Club site:

"Club Members can only redeem vials twice per year."

Anyone know what this means?  Can we only send in two redemption forms per year?  Or, are we limited to receiving two coupons for free vials per year?  Thanks,
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: philm63 on September 24, 2012, 11:30:58 PM
Shot glasses? I feel some tequila coming on...
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: weazletoe on September 26, 2012, 01:03:10 AM
I use them to store my Mentos in when I go swimming. Keeps them dry.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: Kaiser on September 26, 2012, 01:09:31 AM
i take my mash pH samples with them.

While on this topic. I take mash and wort pH samples with a 12 ml glas vial attached to a bare copper wire.

Kai
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: dimik on September 26, 2012, 02:24:56 AM
So how does WL sanitize the vials for yeast? Dry heat??

I think they come sterile out of the manufacturing process. I doubt there is much that can live in hot plastic.

UV is an option too.

Kai

Nothing comes out sterile out of anything. AFAIK gamma-radiation is what's used for all non-autoclavable plasticware in any industry that needs sterile plastic. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case. Or maybe they do use UV... I installed a UV lamp in my home lab and left open petri dishes under it... They remained sterile and microbe free.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: Jimmy K on September 27, 2012, 07:14:37 PM
From the fine print on Whitelabs.com Customer Club site:

"Club Members can only redeem vials twice per year."

Anyone know what this means?  Can we only send in two redemption forms per year?  Or, are we limited to receiving two coupons for free vials per year?  Thanks,

It probably means you can only send in vials twice per year.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: mmitchem on September 27, 2012, 07:16:41 PM
The LHBS collected the 5000 vials and had Chris White come out for a day.

My LHBS just hit the mark. We are working it out now. Fun fun fun!!!
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: Jimmy K on September 27, 2012, 07:25:40 PM
The LHBS collected the 5000 vials and had Chris White come out for a day.

My LHBS just hit the mark. We are working it out now. Fun fun fun!!!

That's awesome!!!!!
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: brewsumore on September 28, 2012, 04:23:32 AM
I have used them as flasks to hold 7.01pH and 4pH solutions individually, to calibrate my pH meter, and then cap for future use.  They are wide enough to accept both the electrode and temp probe, while using less fluid than a flask.  Might not do so anymore, since I have a new benchtop model coming from Valley Vintner.  I use the meter for wine, and ColorpHast strips for beer.

I definitely will use some for salad dressing to take to work.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: mmitchem on September 28, 2012, 11:45:12 AM
I have used them as flasks to hold 7.01pH and 4pH solutions individually, to calibrate my pH meter, and then cap for future use.
That is an awesome idea. I will have to do that! Bravo :)
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: jimrod on October 01, 2012, 03:22:51 PM
I use them for paint samples. Have you ever had to paint over a small wall patch or a real dirty spot.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: rakes on December 16, 2013, 04:31:14 PM
reviving and old post -
As for getting the glue off, my wife has come GooGone in the laundry room for gum, sticky stuff etc... takes the glue residue right off.
Then, I'm using the vials for tap handles.
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: BP79 on December 16, 2013, 06:00:54 PM
Christmas lights.  And also as my first tap handle. 
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: asgreen21 on December 27, 2014, 03:50:03 PM
reviving and old post (again)

I too had pondered the possible uses for these things for years. 

+1 on the WD40.

I finally decided to build a rack for them. 

I'm planning on storing small brewing stuff (gypsum, whirlfloc, campden tablets... stuff like that).

Their new packaging sounds awesome, but I'll be sad to see these things go.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8610/15497613234_7cd21c65aa_s.jpg)
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: quattlebaum on December 27, 2014, 07:44:08 PM
I made a "cooling " vessel out of mine to check PH. (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/27/a1627ec9731ca857b1bf2f327c8cf2ef.jpg)


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Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: asgreen21 on December 27, 2014, 10:16:58 PM
Sweet.

I may make one of those myself.

Looks like a good spot for an adhesive thermometer.



Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: Pinski on December 28, 2014, 03:40:02 AM
I made a "cooling " vessel out of mine to check PH. (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/27/a1627ec9731ca857b1bf2f327c8cf2ef.jpg)

I love it!
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: JT on December 28, 2014, 05:41:34 AM
I made a "cooling " vessel out of mine to check PH. (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/27/a1627ec9731ca857b1bf2f327c8cf2ef.jpg)


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Brilliant and simple. 
Title: Re: White Labs vials?
Post by: brewday on December 30, 2014, 05:01:26 AM
CO2 Purge Wand:

carbonator cap - vial with the bottom hacked off - #3 stopper - bottle filler.


(http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww258/jonnyweave/imagejpg1_zps0457ef8b.jpg)


For fermenters I just swap out the bottle filler for a length of 3/8 tubing.

I'm still not convinced any of this is even necessary.