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Title: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: harbicide on September 22, 2012, 09:56:36 AM
After being a long time user of Star San I decided to give Sani-Clean a try.  I was assuming it would be a drain and use product like Star San but in reading the directions in the Williams catalog it says to rinse it from equipment before using the equipment.

So do any of yinz drain and use?
Title: Re: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: tom on September 22, 2012, 11:38:13 AM
I just checked their website and they recommend rinsing before use and then re-sanitizing for both Sani-Clean and StarSan.  Not sure why the new recommendations.
http://www.fivestarchemicals.com/breweries/homebrewing/products/
Title: Re: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: dbeechum on September 22, 2012, 12:14:18 PM
Always used it just like Star San.. no rinse.
Title: Re: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: harbicide on September 22, 2012, 12:23:19 PM
I got my Saniclean from a club member, so there is no telling how old it is.  My bottles merely instructs to air dry after draining.

I sent an email to Five Star support and will repost what they respond.
Title: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: majorvices on September 22, 2012, 02:32:00 PM
They recommend "air drying if possible". FWIW the local health dept told me SaniClean is not approved by EPA. Not that that probably matters.
Title: Re: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: tschmidlin on September 22, 2012, 10:18:43 PM
They recommend "air drying if possible". FWIW the local health dept told me SaniClean is not approved by EPA. Not that that probably matters.
Do you need EPA approval?  I mean clearly homebrewers don't, but I didn't know the EPA got involved with breweries sanitization.  Runoff maybe.
Title: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: majorvices on September 23, 2012, 05:43:53 AM
i dunno, but I had some in the brewery when I first started up and the health dept told me I could not use it.
Title: Re: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: tygo on September 23, 2012, 08:06:11 AM
i dunno, but I had some in the brewery when I first started up and the health dept told me I could not use it.

You couldn't use it at all or it wasn't an approved sanitizer?  I know that they can't label it as a sanitizer (can't remember the exact reason why) but I remember an interview with the guy from Five Star who said it would sanitize fine given a little longer contact time.
Title: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: majorvices on September 23, 2012, 03:28:14 PM
They told us not to use it. Star san was OK though. Like I said, not that it really matters just thought it was weird.
Title: Re: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: harbicide on September 24, 2012, 09:43:32 AM
I sent an email to Five Star support and will repost what they respond.

Five Star responded with "If you use Saniclean at 1oz per 3g water, you do not need to rinse, you just let air dry. It just a low foaming version of Star San. Let me know if you have any more questions. Cheers!"

My follow up question was "If air drying will only concentrate the product, what would be the concern with draining and using the sanitized part?"

And their response to that was "There is no concern with that."
Title: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: majorvices on September 24, 2012, 11:28:57 AM
yeah, they are told what they are supposed to say as far as air drying and what not. I never air dried it.
Title: Re: Do you rinse sani-clean?
Post by: Jimmy K on September 24, 2012, 12:46:57 PM
They recommend "air drying if possible". FWIW the local health dept told me SaniClean is not approved by EPA. Not that that probably matters.
Do you need EPA approval?  I mean clearly homebrewers don't, but I didn't know the EPA got involved with breweries sanitization.  Runoff maybe.
EPA regulates pesticides, which can include anything made to kill something else - like sanitizers.