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Title: Best way to dumb down a Dortmunder
Post by: boulderbrewer on October 27, 2012, 04:31:20 AM
What is your thought on how to dumb down your dortmunder recipe so your friends may like it. Less bitterness of less hop flavor or a touch of both.

I hope the beer gods do not have access to lighting. Just saying.
Title: Re: Best way to dumb down a Dortmunder
Post by: pyrite on October 27, 2012, 06:02:06 AM
What exactly are we talking about here?

Assuming that your using a Dortmunder water profile?  Softer water perhaps.  Less minerals in your water might round out some of those hop flavors.


Title: Re: Best way to dumb down a Dortmunder
Post by: nateo on October 27, 2012, 01:10:38 PM
"Dumb down a Dortmunder?" Are you talking about someone from Dortmund? Lots of beer sure makes me dumber, so just get them drunk.
Title: Re: Best way to dumb down a Dortmunder
Post by: weithman5 on October 27, 2012, 01:18:26 PM
i would hop it a little more like a helles
Title: Re: Best way to dumb down a Dortmunder
Post by: mabrungard on October 27, 2012, 02:10:42 PM
I don't think that reducing the minerallyness of the water will have much effect.  Balance is a hallmark of this style, so I'm hoping that the example in question didn't have too much bitterness.  Backing off the bittering addition might be an option if it was a little too bitter.  Another big player can be when the mash and wort pH are a little too high.  In either case, tannins from the mash or rough hop flavor can be contributed to the finished beer.  If brewing with a water with high alkalinity, that could be a source of the problem. 
Title: Re: Best way to dumb down a Dortmunder
Post by: malzig on October 28, 2012, 05:23:59 PM
A Dortmunder is a pretty mild style, with low hop levels accentuated by relatively high sulfate concentrations.  Like Martin said, if you aren't dealing with a basic brewing problem like carbonate, pH or high tannin extraction, but are getting harsh bitterness, you are probably too high in the IBU or sulfate range.