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Title: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: philm63 on October 28, 2012, 11:44:18 PM
Where can I buy the new Mosaic hops? I've looked around on-line and have yet to find anyone selling them.

Anyone?
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: Siamese Moose on October 31, 2012, 09:22:10 PM
You are unlikely to find them for a while. According to a presentation given at Perrault Farms during the NHC preconference tour, there won't be enough in the pipeline for any to reach homebrewers until 2014 at the very earliest, and more likely not until 2015.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on October 31, 2012, 10:46:48 PM
I got some last year at a brewery that had used those for brewing trials, these were leftovers sold at the brewery homebrew shop. X-369 was the name then. They are very resiny, some say they have some blueberry, and are like Simcoe without the cat pee.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: erockrph on November 05, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
Freshops.com has them up on their website right now.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: kylekohlmorgen on November 05, 2012, 09:29:22 PM
Good catch erockrph! I'm really looking forward to using these hops after tasting Bell's "It Goes To 11".

12oz minimum purchase - That's going to be one hell of an IPA!
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on November 05, 2012, 09:31:31 PM
I still have some X-369 in the freezer. Just ordered some Mosaic to add to that. Thanks!.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: sparkleberry on November 05, 2012, 10:00:06 PM
i was able to buy only 8 oz.

and i scored some more simcoe!
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: philm63 on November 06, 2012, 11:29:20 AM
Any idea if this years crop was large enough for some to be pelletized? I've never used whole hops before but if they're not going to go pellets for a while, I guess this'll be my chance to break into whole hops.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: erockrph on December 19, 2012, 03:59:17 PM
FYI - Austin Homebrew Supply now has pellets in stock.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: hoser on December 19, 2012, 04:01:50 PM
As does Farmhouse Brewing Supply.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: james on December 19, 2012, 04:33:32 PM
Any idea if this years crop was large enough for some to be pelletized? I've never used whole hops before but if they're not going to go pellets for a while, I guess this'll be my chance to break into whole hops.

They were pelletized last year (2011) as well as this year
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: AmandaK on December 27, 2012, 10:55:35 PM
My LHBS will be getting some of these, so of course I have to buy them.

What recipe types are you guys going for? I mean, besides the obvious IPA. :)
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on December 27, 2012, 11:24:36 PM
There was a beer I had at the NHC, brewed by Tom Schmidlin, that used Mosaic. Really liked it.

Beer is the Rusian River "Hop 2 It" that Vinnie Cilurzo uses to test new hops.
http://tinyurl.com/botvz2g
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: tschmidlin on December 28, 2012, 02:33:50 AM
There was a beer I had at the NHC, brewed by Tom Schmidlin, that used Mosaic. Really liked it.

Beer is the Rusian River "Hop 2 It" that Vinnie Cilurzo uses to test new hops.
http://tinyurl.com/botvz2g
Note these are single hop beers done with 4 different hops.  For this recipe, target 37 IBU total.  The late additions were all kept the same to show the relative flavors and aromas of the different hops in each batch, so only the bittering addition was changed for each to match the target bitterness.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on December 28, 2012, 02:39:32 AM
There was a beer I had at the NHC, brewed by Tom Schmidlin, that used Mosaic. Really liked it.

Beer is the Rusian River "Hop 2 It" that Vinnie Cilurzo uses to test new hops.
http://tinyurl.com/botvz2g
Note these are single hop beers done with 4 different hops.  For this recipe, target 37 IBU total.  The late additions were all kept the same to show the relative flavors and aromas of the different hops in each batch, so only the bittering addition was changed for each to match the target bitterness.

Of the four, Mosaic was my favorite, LR was the least favorite.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: tschmidlin on December 28, 2012, 02:43:32 AM
There was a beer I had at the NHC, brewed by Tom Schmidlin, that used Mosaic. Really liked it.

Beer is the Rusian River "Hop 2 It" that Vinnie Cilurzo uses to test new hops.
http://tinyurl.com/botvz2g
Note these are single hop beers done with 4 different hops.  For this recipe, target 37 IBU total.  The late additions were all kept the same to show the relative flavors and aromas of the different hops in each batch, so only the bittering addition was changed for each to match the target bitterness.

Of the four, Mosaic was my favorite, LR was the least favorite.
We went through 40 gallons in less than an hour - by the time I got any it was warmer and flatter.  But I agree, the mosaic was really nice, the best of the lot.  I liked the meridian too.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: lornemagill on December 28, 2012, 03:31:52 AM
ive read some of the posts on this thread.  are mosaic the only ones that have the blueberry yogurt taste.  ive had two different local beers that have that taste and like it a lot.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: tschmidlin on December 28, 2012, 06:57:42 AM
ive read some of the posts on this thread.  are mosaic the only ones that have the blueberry yogurt taste.  ive had two different local beers that have that taste and like it a lot.
Not to me.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on December 28, 2012, 01:33:26 PM
ive read some of the posts on this thread.  are mosaic the only ones that have the blueberry yogurt taste.  ive had two different local beers that have that taste and like it a lot.

Had a Mosaic DIPA Wed. night at Bells, and I do not remember any Blueberry.

Subbed Mosaic for Simcoe in the Pliny the Elder recipe last year, and really liked that one. My wife could smell it and not say "Cat Pee", which she always does with Simcoe.

Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: blatz on December 28, 2012, 02:46:54 PM
Dryhop of 50:50 Calypso and Mosaic?  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: Titanium Brewing on December 30, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
I did a all Mosaic IPA about 6 weeks ago, just finished the dry hopping.

 1oz FWH
 60 min. boil
 .75 @ 15
 .75 @ 10
 .75 @ 5
 .75 @ 0
 1 dry hop for 5 days.

I must say my initial tastes were amazing. I detect a distinct blueberry note and maybe even some blackberry/currant. I used whole hops from freshops, thank you Dave Wills for making this available to the homebrew community.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: breibrew on January 08, 2013, 01:14:17 AM
 I found this today while searching for Mosiac

http://labelpeelers.com/mosaic-hops-1-oz-pellet-p-4482.html
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: amh0001 on January 08, 2013, 02:00:24 AM
I just bought 2 oz from my LHBS and made a APA with them. 4 days in the carboy so we shall see how it turns out. Smelled fantastic.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: pinnah on February 06, 2013, 03:00:22 PM
What else out there for experience?  Blatz, did you use these yet?

Seems I read they were a bit like Citra, only stronger.  Not sure where I read that.
Or are they more like Simcoe?

thank you Dave Wills for making this available to the homebrew community.

Hells yes.   8)
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on February 06, 2013, 04:09:25 PM
What else out there for experience?  Blatz, did you use these yet?

Seems I read they were a bit like Citra, only stronger.  Not sure where I read that.
Or are they more like Simcoe?

thank you Dave Wills for making this available to the homebrew community.

Hells yes.   8)
Mosaic is like Simcoe without the cat piss to me.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: blatz on February 06, 2013, 08:58:48 PM
What else out there for experience?  Blatz, did you use these yet?


yeah - we had a festival here 2 weeks ago and I served 20gal of my west coast IPA - 10gal with simcoe/amarillo dryhop and 10gal with mosaic/calypso dryhop.  obviously, with all the hops in the kettle and then using 2 hops in the dryhop, I didn't get a pure mosaic impression, but I thought it was fantastic - next time I am doing all mosaic to see how it ends up.  From what I got when I pulled the hop bag holding the mosaic: very tropical fruity and piney without the pungency of simcoe, but overall it thought it was very close to simcoe and I like it alot.  I wouldn't say its much like Citra, but I need more experimentation.

all that said, people at the fest seemed to prefer the simcoe/amarillo, but I think that may have been the calypso's fault  :o
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: pinnah on February 08, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
Thanks. 

Mmmm, mine just came in the mail yesterday, just in time for a brew weekend.
I love it when the mail lady has to drive down the driveway to deliver a Freshop Box! ;D

Cheers!
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: fmader on February 28, 2013, 03:11:43 AM
I am currently drinking a Great Lakes Alchemy Hour DIPA. It is finished with mosaic hops. This is my first experience with mosaic. I like it....different, but I'm a fan. I would say that it is has a sweet-earthy taste. The aroma is amazing. As far as the beer goes...it is 9.4% ABV and would compare it to Troegs Nugget Nectar, but bigger.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: gmac on February 28, 2013, 03:54:13 AM
Every time I read these threads it costs me money.  Just got 8 oz of Mosaic because you all seem to like it.  I'm sure it will be awesome but I've got an unopened lb of Simcoe for the same reason.  I'm a sucker for peer pressure. 
Let me know when you guys are jumping off a bridge and I'll be sure to be there.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: dordway29 on February 28, 2013, 07:22:09 AM
There's a saison IPA here with all mosaic that's fantastic. My co-worker describes it as having a green tea taste. Definitely some simcoe flavors and could probably be substituted with simcoe. Either way I have a smash beer with pale malt and mosaic. Tastes fantastic. We have both whole leaf and pellets around so they're definitely out there. The distributors are limiting how much everyone can order.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: kgs on March 03, 2013, 03:15:52 PM
Based on this, last night I brewed a 2.5-gallon 15-minute all-Mosaic APA (3 lbs DME, 8 oz 60L, Safale 05, with kettle hop additions of 1/1/.5 oz at 15/5/0). When people talk about fruit fragrance in hops I usually have no idea what they are talking about. With this hop, perhaps it was the power of suggestion but I definitely picked up blueberry in the hydrometer. If the hydrometer sample is any indication, this is going to be seriously tasty.

I haven't brewed an extract batch in a while, and I have to say it was nice to start a brew while I was preparing dinner and have it in the fermenter by the time I was filling the dishwasher! Plus I tried a hop I was curious about rather than hewing with ingredients I know I like.
Title: Re: Mosaic Hops?
Post by: kmccaf on March 03, 2013, 05:20:51 PM
Based on this, last night I brewed a 2.5-gallon 15-minute all-Mosaic APA (3 lbs DME, 8 oz 60L, Safale 05, with kettle hop additions of 1/1/.5 oz at 15/5/0). When people talk about fruit fragrance in hops I usually have no idea what they are talking about. With this hop, perhaps it was the power of suggestion but I definitely picked up blueberry in the hydrometer. If the hydrometer sample is any indication, this is going to be seriously tasty.

I haven't brewed an extract batch in a while, and I have to say it was nice to start a brew while I was preparing dinner and have it in the fermenter by the time I was filling the dishwasher! Plus I tried a hop I was curious about rather than hewing with ingredients I know I like.

I feel the same way about it. If someone had not said it has some blueberry in the taste and smell, then I am not sure I would have interpreted it that way. But now, when I taste the couple of brews I have made with it, I definitely can taste some blueberry.

Also, always nice the crank out an extract batch. Just feels good to complete something so quickly.