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Title: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: 1vertical on February 09, 2013, 02:22:19 pm
Damn we have this little restaurant and I cannot get enuff
of the Pho Ga....The man has taken a shine to us and is willing
to help me make some.  I looked on the www and found many
recipies (Euge says good pho a closely guarded secret) but none
seem to match what the proprietor says he makes his from.

Now to find some huge beef marrow bones and vietnamese cinnamon
thinking I am goin to sub some amber belgian candy for "rock sugar"
....ahhhhh
my new comfort food!
http://www.caspermenus.com/Restaurants/pho-saigon-casper.htm (http://www.caspermenus.com/Restaurants/pho-saigon-casper.htm)
Pho Ga in the photo here...mmmmm
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: nateo on February 09, 2013, 02:35:27 pm
Pho is kinda like angel food cake. It's basically like 5 ingredients, the trick is how you make it. I talked to one Vietnamese lady who said she used 13 ingredients, but said 8 were secret.

I have heard that the yellow rock sugar they use is pretty important. I don't think the belgian candy sugar will give the same flavor.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: tschmidlin on February 09, 2013, 11:11:49 pm
I love pho.  My kids love pho.  Pho is wonderful :)
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: The Professor on February 09, 2013, 11:59:19 pm
I love pho.  My kids love pho.  Pho is wonderful :)

Pho is soup of the gods, period.
I've has some damned good results following the info given here:
http://www.steamykitchen.com/271-vietnamese-beef-noodle-soup-pho.html
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: dbeechum on February 10, 2013, 12:02:11 am
I know I live in Southern California and I know that here menudo is supposed to be the king high of hangover foods. (Personally I prefer machaca con huevos.)

But damned if pho doesn't beat the pants off menudo for curing you of everything wrong. Personally, I tend to go for the #1 pho, which seems to be in every restaurant the pho that contains all the weird s*** you don't want to know about!
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: MDixon on February 10, 2013, 09:31:25 am
You really don't want to make Pho at home. I have, it is a PITA and you end up with soup. Pho Tai is my favorite.

If you're ever in Richmond, VA this is a great place to go, the Pho is cheap and the beer is phenomenal.
https://www.facebook.com/mekongrestaurant

Beer list from December
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Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: punatic on February 10, 2013, 12:05:35 pm
I like slow-cooked pho barbecue!   ;)
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: 1vertical on February 12, 2013, 11:05:05 pm
Must Resist PHO   :o
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: kylekohlmorgen on February 13, 2013, 05:04:05 am
I know I live in Southern California and I know that here menudo is supposed to be the king high of hangover foods. (Personally I prefer machaca con huevos.)

But damned if pho doesn't beat the pants off menudo for curing you of everything wrong. Personally, I tend to go for the #1 pho, which seems to be in every restaurant the pho that contains all the weird s*** you don't want to know about!

Hangover + Pho + nap = Good to Go

Always struggled pairing a beverage with Pho. Any suggestions? Kinda thought Brooklyn's Local 1 might be a decent pick.

Speaking of - I'll look up Garrett Oliver's book when I get home.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: morticaixavier on February 13, 2013, 06:59:04 am
There is a restaurant in Davis called the Pho King.  ;D
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: 1vertical on February 13, 2013, 08:29:59 am
There is a restaurant in Davis called the Pho King.  ;D
Gotta Like that and you should go to the Pho King restaurant and report back !!  ;D
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: redbeerman on February 13, 2013, 08:46:53 am
There is a restaurant in Davis called the Pho King.  ;D
Gotta Like that and you should go to the Pho King restaurant and report back !!  ;D

I'm sure it's Pho King good! ;)  Sorry, I'll stop now.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: jeffy on February 13, 2013, 09:21:22 am
There is a restaurant in Davis called the Pho King.  ;D
Gotta Like that and you should go to the Pho King restaurant and report back !!  ;D

I'm sure it's Pho King good! ;)  Sorry, I'll stop now.

We've done this before.  The line at the restaurant would be a Pho queue.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: tschmidlin on February 13, 2013, 10:14:05 am
There is a restaurant in Davis called the Pho King.  ;D
Gotta Like that and you should go to the Pho King restaurant and report back !!  ;D

I'm sure it's Pho King good! ;)  Sorry, I'll stop now.

We've done this before.  The line at the restaurant would be a Pho queue.
Yeah, it's a chain AFAIK, there's one in Tacoma.  Try the Pho King Chicken.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: euge on February 13, 2013, 02:34:09 pm
There was a Pinche Pollo restaurant in Austin at one time. ;D For those unfamiliar with espanol- that could easily mean something along the lines of "f*cking worthless stingy chicken"!

Dave I'll send you some of the pho spice packs from the LAS but be prepared to make a lot of it. But IMO pho broth freezes well so you can portion it out and add noodles etc after reheating. Perfect for any time of the day.

I'm kinda a rare-beef, bible-tripe and soft tendon pho lover. Lots of bean sprouts, basil and cilantro. Squeeze of lime or lemon. Otherwise I don't adulterate the broth with ubiquitous sriracha or hoisin sauce- thats for the noodles and meat! Pho doesn't get much better than that and if it were possible I'd probably eat it 2-3 times a week.

The best place in San Antonio is Pho Cong Ly.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: The Professor on February 13, 2013, 04:37:41 pm
You really don't want to make Pho at home. I have, it is a PITA and you end up with soup...

But you end up with one hell of a great soup...and it's phenomenal meal.
(...and come on, it's not all that difficult to make!)
 ;D
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: fatdogale on February 13, 2013, 07:52:25 pm
There is a restaurant in Davis called the Pho King.  ;D

There was one in south Everett (WA) called Pho Kim.  I thinnk they've either closed or changed their name...I went to take a picture of the sign recently, and it's no longer there.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: bluesman on February 13, 2013, 09:27:33 pm
On a cold winter day it's the best for warming you up. I love the flavor of the broth. The combination of fresh mint, cilantro, basil, bean sprouts, lime, sliced chili peppers are some of my favorite in this dish. I also like to add some Sriracha hot chili sauce to give it some energy.  :)
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: 1vertical on February 24, 2013, 09:14:20 pm
Well took the plunge and made my 1st Pho.....Not a bad effort but needs some tweeking.
Slow boiled (160*f) for 5 -6 hours  several marrow bones and a pound+ of oxtail...skimmed
and seasoned with the charred onion and ginger root chunk/ and Pho spice mix.
Had some fresh hot and it was good but Not as good as the restaurant....
Let it cool overnite and skimmed the fat off....poured the clear off the sediment
and added a little bit of chicken boullion....this made it more better.... ;)
My new friend at the restaurant gave us some Bahn Pho noodles and they were
great in the mix.....i have a gallon of Pho to eat/freeze leftovers and savor....tweek;....
this soup rocks!  (the meat off the oxtail is good delicacy too)
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: pinnah on February 26, 2013, 10:24:54 am
Wow.  My gal would freakout pho sho ifn I boiled bones and oxtail in the house for 5 hours... :o



 ;D
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: euge on February 26, 2013, 05:53:35 pm
Wow.  My gal would freakout pho sho ifn I boiled bones and oxtail in the house for 5 hours... :o



 ;D

But it is just a normal stock/broth making process. And it isn't boiled but simmered.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: 1vertical on February 26, 2013, 10:47:33 pm
But it is just a normal stock/broth making process. And it isn't boiled but simmered.

+1  ^^^  Mashed in at 160*f (5hr.) melting collagen....skimming always....
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: deepsouth on March 07, 2013, 09:47:38 am
i love pho sooooooo much.  i wish it were easy to make at home, but we have so many good vietnamese places, it makes no sense to try.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: MDixon on March 25, 2013, 10:03:26 am
Since this thread is still alive I might as well suggest the Pho alternative from the Asian market which comes in a bowl and you open two packets and add hot water. Even has it's own foldable fork. It's called Pho Bo and works well when you need an instant Photernative.

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Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: 1vertical on March 25, 2013, 11:15:30 am
One must have the availability of an Asian Market.....that leaves BFE out  :'(
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: euge on March 25, 2013, 03:02:27 pm
I have four or five LASS within three miles of my house. One of them smells really weird at times. It's obviously my favorite.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: bluesman on March 25, 2013, 06:17:35 pm
Oh the Pho...this clip is cool.  :)

This is where the goodness of real Pho is born. I still want to try to recreate this dish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsSiA-JHm0U
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: ultravista on March 25, 2013, 08:04:27 pm
I too love Pho and often make it myself, no oxtail or bones though, just a good cut of beef from Sam's Club. I usually get a roast that's marked down for quick sale, hack it up into a few chunks, salt & pepper it before broiling it a bit.

I throw in cinnamon, clove, star anise, onion and ginger into the boil. I also supplement it which chicken stock. Yeah, chicken stock in beef Pho sounds odd but many restaurants do the same, so does my Laotian mother-in-law. Depending on the batch size, I also add a few beef bouillon to richen the flavor.

There are a ton of great recipes to start with, then like our beer, jump into it and add your own flair. I really dig a lot of cinnamon (stick), clove, and star anise in my batch. It really adds fragrance and a wonderful taste.

http://www.vietworldkitchen.com/blog/2008/10/pho-beef-noodle-soup.html
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: lornemagill on March 25, 2013, 08:39:05 pm
i live behind a pho restaurant and try to go once a week.  one of my favorite foods.  look to see if there is an authentic ramen house near you, there is one in austin and its amazing.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: 1vertical on March 25, 2013, 11:00:53 pm
I too love Pho and often make it myself, no oxtail or bones though, just a good cut of beef from Sam's Club. I usually get a roast that's marked down for quick sale, hack it up into a few chunks, salt & pepper it before broiling it a bit.

I throw in cinnamon, clove, star anise, onion and ginger into the boil. I also supplement it which chicken stock. Yeah, chicken stock in beef Pho sounds odd but many restaurants do the same, so does my Laotian mother-in-law. Depending on the batch size, I also add a few beef bouillon to richen the flavor.

There are a ton of great recipes to start with, then like our beer, jump into it and add your own flair. I really dig a lot of cinnamon (stick), clove, and star anise in my batch. It really adds fragrance and a wonderful taste.

http://www.vietworldkitchen.com/blog/2008/10/pho-beef-noodle-soup.html

In the above Pho I made, I added chicken stock and it did improve the end result amazingly.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: 1vertical on May 07, 2013, 11:39:53 pm
MUST RESIST PHO>>>>>>>PULL>>>>>>ARGHHHHHHH
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: MDixon on October 14, 2013, 03:38:44 pm
It should be pointed out my favorite place for Pho just won First Place Best Beer Bars from Craftbeer.com at the GABF
http://www.craftbeer.com/news/craftbeer-com-news/2013-great-american-beer-bar-selected-by-craftbeer-com-readers

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Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: HoosierBrew on October 14, 2013, 06:34:14 pm
i live behind a pho restaurant and try to go once a week.  one of my favorite foods.  look to see if there is an authentic ramen house near you, there is one in austin and its amazing.
I live near a great pho restaurant.  Pretty amazing stuff. Great combination of flavors.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: euge on December 01, 2013, 11:53:44 pm
Ramen rocks.

One of my friends made me some badass pho last week and all he used was a paste out of a jar. Added fresh cilantro and sprouts to resulting broth; topped with squeeze of lime, some hoisin sauce and sambal olek and it was comparable to $10 pho. The rice noodles cost pennies.

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Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: punatic on December 02, 2013, 01:35:11 am
Estilo casero indeed!
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: tschmidlin on December 02, 2013, 03:21:39 am
Ramen rocks.

One of my friends made me some badass pho last week and all he used was a paste out of a jar. Added fresh cilantro and sprouts to resulting broth; topped with squeeze of lime, some hoisin sauce and sambal olek and it was comparable to $10 pho.
What is $10 pho?  :o
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: redbeerman on December 02, 2013, 05:36:08 am
Ramen rocks.

One of my friends made me some badass pho last week and all he used was a paste out of a jar. Added fresh cilantro and sprouts to resulting broth; topped with squeeze of lime, some hoisin sauce and sambal olek and it was comparable to $10 pho.
What is $10 pho?  :o

That would be the pho that costs $2.50 more than the $7.50 pho. ;)
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: bluesman on December 02, 2013, 10:23:13 am
Ramen rocks.

One of my friends made me some badass pho last week and all he used was a paste out of a jar. Added fresh cilantro and sprouts to resulting broth; topped with squeeze of lime, some hoisin sauce and sambal olek and it was comparable to $10 pho. The rice noodles cost pennies.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1IoucBR8dqk/UpwrJUhK-DI/AAAAAAAAAxk/-WEeDVkEEEM/w914-h514-no/20131124_175024.jpg)

Doesn't surprise me. I'd like to try this method sometime.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: 1vertical on December 02, 2013, 10:42:04 am
Maybe brand specific goodness?  I looked on amazon for that particular model and
was not finding it.....hmmmm.    Sure would take a LOT of the work out of the
genuine method.....mashing bones at 160* for as long as you can stand it.....
Thanks Euge for the tip.  Our little Pho cafe is looking for an exit as he says
he could use more income....but his kid is in the school so...here he stays for now.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: Pinski on December 02, 2013, 10:44:21 am
What is $10 pho?  :o

100 packs of Ramen.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: euge on December 02, 2013, 11:26:38 am
Adding the fresh ingredients and the sambal olek really makes the difference IMO. Luckily there are a plethora of Asian markets to choose from in the area. I've just been trying different brands and have concluded they all need a little doctoring up for optimal experience.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: tschmidlin on December 03, 2013, 12:08:19 am
Ramen rocks.

One of my friends made me some badass pho last week and all he used was a paste out of a jar. Added fresh cilantro and sprouts to resulting broth; topped with squeeze of lime, some hoisin sauce and sambal olek and it was comparable to $10 pho.
What is $10 pho?  :o

That would be the pho that costs $2.50 more than the $7.50 pho. ;)
;D  I've never seen it that expensive, I pay $6.95 for the large.  $10 is crazy talk!

I want pho now.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: gmac on December 03, 2013, 04:56:39 am
Live in Canada, live miles from a city. No pho for me. I'm jealous of all you pho'kers.
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: MDixon on December 05, 2013, 06:31:09 am
Mekong in Richmond has one called the Superbowl. It's like $10 and would be enough Pho for three. I eat the normal size for $6.50. ;)

We keep getting the Pho Bo I mentioned earlier in the thread. We get them locally for much less than Amazon has them. I seem to recall it being about $9 for 6.
http://www.amazon.com/Mama-Beef-Noodle-Bowls-Packs/dp/B008GNNPGO
Title: Re: My new Love affair with Pho
Post by: Jimmy K on December 05, 2013, 07:14:09 am
Amazon has them.
I just envisioned Amazon's new drone delivered Pho service.