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Title: Boil Question
Post by: donsmitty on March 19, 2013, 12:25:15 PM
I just bought a 10 gallon Blichmann boil kettle so I could boil volumes of about 8.5 gallons.  My question is, will I be able to do that on my stove top or do I need to move to a propane burner? 
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: davidgzach on March 19, 2013, 12:29:01 PM
Unless you have one serious home stove, you will need a burner.  My Bayou Classic has treated me well.

Dave
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: donsmitty on March 19, 2013, 12:55:13 PM
Unless you have one serious home stove, you will need a burner.  My Bayou Classic has treated me well.

Dave

I was afraid that was going to be the answer.  I was hoping not to spend the night in the garage but I guess there is no escaping it....  Looks like we'll be drinking a stout during this brewing.  Thanks Dave.
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: Jimmy K on March 19, 2013, 01:02:00 PM
Fill it with water and see if you can boil it.  One burner on my stove is super strong will boil easily. I've seen both gas and electric stoves that could do it - and some that couldn't. It all depends on how powerful the burners are.
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: jamminbrew on March 19, 2013, 01:10:52 PM
Fill it with water and see if you can boil it.  One burner on my stove is super strong will boil easily. I've seen both gas and electric stoves that could do it - and some that couldn't. It all depends on how powerful the burners are.
+1. Try it and see. Chances are, though, you'll have to get an outdoor burner. My stove would take about 2 hours to get to a simmer. Now I can get to a full boil in 20 minutes or less.
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: factory on March 19, 2013, 01:50:12 PM
I have a "bridge burner" in the center of my stove, I found that if I positioned the kettle partially over it and one of the other burners, that I could get my 8.7 gallons of wort to boil in about an hour and a half.  After that I bought a Bayou Classic outdoor propane burner, it can do the job in about 25-30 minutes.
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: DrewG on March 19, 2013, 01:54:20 PM
Get a nice Blichmann burner to go with that kettle. You wont be sorry. They are built like a brick sh!thouse and get an 8 gallon boil going PDQ
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on March 19, 2013, 02:56:21 PM
Unless you have one serious home stove, you will need a burner.  My Bayou Classic has treated me well.

Dave

+1 i have the bayou classic also.
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: fmader on March 19, 2013, 10:00:51 PM
IDK...Aside from the boil aspect, 8.5 gallons of water is about 70 lbs. That plus the weight of the kettle is a lot of weight to lift up onto the stove unless you have a pump.
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: donsmitty on March 20, 2013, 02:00:22 AM
Thanks all for the suggestions.  A Blichmann looks pretty nice, especially with the leg extensions that are available.  BUT, it might be a little over my budget right now.  I do see where I can pick up a Bayou Classic KAB4 High Pressure Banjo Cooker for $87.49 on Amazon.  I might have to go that route.  So, now that I've decided to move the process to the garage, I guess I need to get water out there so I can chill the wort.  Always something to think about.  Thanks again everyone.
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: fmader on March 20, 2013, 02:10:21 AM
I don't know anything about it, and there aren't any customer reviews, but I saw this on the NB website the other day. Cheap...dunno about quality.

http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-dark-star-burner.html (http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-dark-star-burner.html)
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: Jimmy K on March 20, 2013, 02:18:47 AM
I just saw that on their catalog. It does say up to 10 gallons, but I don't like the way the top is constructed with no direct support on the outer rim where the kettle weight would be. I guess it would be fine for a flat bottom kettle, but I'm not sure about a keggle where the weight rests on the edge.
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: donsmitty on March 20, 2013, 03:10:56 AM
I don't know anything about it, and there aren't any customer reviews, but I saw this on the NB website the other day. Cheap...dunno about quality.

http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-dark-star-burner.html (http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-dark-star-burner.html)

I looked at that one also along with the Bayou KAB4 AND KAB6.  After reading the reviews and getting an offer from NorthernBrewer.com for a free Porter extract kit with the purchase of $125 or more, I decided to go with the Blichmann burner.  A little over my budget but it should last me a good long time.
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: Alewyfe on March 20, 2013, 06:48:53 AM
I don't know anything about it, and there aren't any customer reviews, but I saw this on the NB website the other day. Cheap...dunno about quality.

http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-dark-star-burner.html (http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-dark-star-burner.html)

I looked at that one also along with the Bayou KAB4 AND KAB6.  After reading the reviews and getting an offer from Blichmann for a free Porter extract kit with the purchase of $125 or more, I decided to go with the Blichmann burner.  A little over my budget but it should last me a good long time.

You will never regret spending a little more than you had intended as opposed to less than you should have.
I really like my Blichmann burner. I think you'll be delighted with it.
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: thatgeekguy on March 20, 2013, 05:30:22 PM
I don't know anything about it, and there aren't any customer reviews, but I saw this on the NB website the other day. Cheap...dunno about quality.

http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-dark-star-burner.html (http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-dark-star-burner.html)

I looked at that one also along with the Bayou KAB4 AND KAB6.  After reading the reviews and getting an offer from NorthernBrewer.com for a free Porter extract kit with the purchase of $125 or more, I decided to go with the Blichmann burner.  A little over my budget but it should last me a good long time.

A big +1 on the Blichmann, I got mine last week and used it for the first time on Sunday. Definitely a good investment, especially with the leg kit.
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: fmader on March 20, 2013, 06:43:43 PM
I don't know anything about it, and there aren't any customer reviews, but I saw this on the NB website the other day. Cheap...dunno about quality.

http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-dark-star-burner.html (http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/the-dark-star-burner.html)

I looked at that one also along with the Bayou KAB4 AND KAB6.  After reading the reviews and getting an offer from NorthernBrewer.com for a free Porter extract kit with the purchase of $125 or more, I decided to go with the Blichmann burner.  A little over my budget but it should last me a good long time.

A big +1 on the Blichmann, I got mine last week and used it for the first time on Sunday. Definitely a good investment, especially with the leg kit.

Despite my efforts to post the link, I'm glad you went for the higher quality product. This looked kinda cheap to me as well. I don't know much about the Blichmann either since my burner is homemade, but I would imagine it is a superior product. Good choice IMO!
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: tonyp on March 20, 2013, 08:51:51 PM
If you see picts of the Bayou vs Blichmann, the burners are identical, its the shroud surrounding them that's different. The Bayou just sits on the ground and is made from cast iron and the Blichmann can sit either on the ground, connected to their top-tier system or have legs installed. You're only paying more for the shroud and its options.

Bayou:
(http://www.bayouclassicdepot.com/images/kab6-kick-a-banjo-burner-plus.jpg)

Blichmann:
(http://www.mainbrew.com/ProdImages/blichmannburner.jpg)

Just the burner:
(http://www.bayouclassicdepot.com/images/bcbg14_large_cast_propane_burner.jpg)

Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: donsmitty on March 21, 2013, 01:56:20 PM
Your are right Tonyp.  The options are what sold me, as well as, the Blichmann being SS.  It will be here Tuesday and we brew our first all-grain on Friday.  Can't wait. 
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: klickitat jim on March 22, 2013, 01:33:57 AM
You will love it. Good equipment. But I use a two burner Camp King

"Freedom is temporary unless you are also Brave!" - Patriot

Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: denny on March 22, 2013, 01:47:11 AM
Hi Jim!  Good to see ya here!
Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: klickitat jim on March 22, 2013, 04:33:27 AM
Thanks for helping me find it Denny

"Freedom is temporary unless you are also Brave!" - Patriot

Title: Re: Boil Question
Post by: donsmitty on March 26, 2013, 07:46:51 PM
Your are right Tonyp.  The options are what sold me, as well as, the Blichmann being SS.  It will be here Tuesday and we brew our first all-grain on Friday.  Can't wait.

FedEx delivered the burner today and I assembled it along with the 24" legs.  Brew day is Friday.  Can't wait.