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Title: Interesting Split-Batch Belgian
Post by: a10t2 on April 07, 2013, 06:32:27 PM
Still doing some test batches for this Belgian Blond. I thought it was remarkable how different the two were in appearance, especially since 3522 (left) is supposed to be highly flocculent. The right beer is Unibroue (3864) cultured up from a bottle several years ago.

(http://seanterrill.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IMG_0492-384x288.jpg) (http://seanterrill.com/2013/04/07/a-tale-of-two-yeasties/)
Title: Re: Interesting Split-Batch Belgian
Post by: Siamese Moose on April 07, 2013, 09:23:16 PM
Did you temp crash them? My experience with 3522 is it doesn't floc well until chilled, unless you give it a lot of time. Of course it's still my personal favorite Belgian yeast.
Title: Re: Interesting Split-Batch Belgian
Post by: a10t2 on April 07, 2013, 11:19:38 PM
Yep, 3 day crash in the fermenters, and they've been kegged (and fined) for three weeks. It just won't drop.
Title: Re: Interesting Split-Batch Belgian
Post by: dbarber on April 08, 2013, 12:05:50 AM
I did a belgian blond with 3522 and crashed it at 32 and eventually added gelatin.  Never did clear up, but damn was it tasty.
Title: Re: Interesting Split-Batch Belgian
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 08, 2013, 02:16:25 PM
Yep, 3 day crash in the fermenters, and they've been kegged (and fined) for three weeks. It just won't drop.

I've had trouble getting 3522 to clear on re-pitches.  Gelatin and time seem to work.  Of course, I've had the same problem with the Chimay strain and 3787 on repitches.

Which one do you prefer?  I've recently kegged a blonde using 3522, but haven't had a chance to really try it out.

I've not been too happy with the blondes I've made with 3787 so I'm hopeful for the recent batch.

I'm also thinking I need to buy a bunch of blondes and do a tasting.  To calibrate my palate, of course.
Title: Re: Interesting Split-Batch Belgian
Post by: erockrph on April 08, 2013, 02:44:19 PM
I'm also thinking I need to buy a bunch of blondes and do a tasting.  To calibrate my palate, of course.

A blonde tasting? Where do I sign up for that?  ;D
Title: Re: Interesting Split-Batch Belgian
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on April 10, 2013, 02:11:38 PM
I'm also thinking I need to buy a bunch of blondes and do a tasting.  To calibrate my palate, of course.

A blonde tasting? Where do I sign up for that?  ;D

At a Belgian Blond Carnival, of course ;D
Title: Re: Interesting Split-Batch Belgian
Post by: a10t2 on April 10, 2013, 03:41:02 PM
Which one do you prefer?  I've recently kegged a blonde using 3522, but haven't had a chance to really try it out.

I definitely prefer the 3864, but it isn't really a fair comparison because of the large discrepancy in FG. The 3522 is a little less phenolic, and the ester profile is a little one-dimensional with the banana where the 3864 has a nice fruity mix. Actually, the grist isn't too far off from a hefeweizen, and the 3522 batch tastes surprisingly close to one.
Title: Re: Interesting Split-Batch Belgian
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 10, 2013, 04:07:03 PM
Good to know.  I have some 3864 (both cultured from a bottle and a smack pack) so perhaps that will be my next run at this style.

I've been going all pils with a touch of aromatic for my grist.  No wheat.  The beers have all been a bit thin, but I mashed higher on the last one which hopefully helped.  One of these days I'll change kegs and put it on tap.