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Title: My babies
Post by: denny on March 01, 2010, 07:42:33 PM
This year's hops are starting to poke their heads up!

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Title: Re: My babies
Post by: bluesman on March 01, 2010, 07:44:57 PM
Awwwww yeaaahhhh!

Bring Spring!
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: theDarkSide on March 01, 2010, 07:53:46 PM
You realize now that you have said something, you'll get a foot of snow and there will be shrinkage. :)
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: denny on March 01, 2010, 08:01:04 PM
AAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!  Shrinkage!  ;)
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: rabid_dingo on March 08, 2010, 07:00:45 PM
I had to go outside and check. Nothing yet here. March is the snowiest month for Denver, CO. It is raining today...Sigh...Winter is putting up a fight and Spring is putting up a fight...I hope spring wins.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: babalu87 on March 08, 2010, 07:30:41 PM
I checked mine
Still snow on them
But its melting FAST , hit 60 today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: BrewArk on March 08, 2010, 09:04:18 PM
Mine are about 3" tall.  Except of course for the new varieties that I'm expecting to arrive any day now ;D
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: bluesman on March 09, 2010, 04:04:03 AM
Snow has melted and they are just starting to poke their heads up...ever so slightly.   8)
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: dean on March 09, 2010, 02:16:59 PM
Nothing here as of yesterday, still have snow but its melting.  I uncovered two plants about a week ago so the ground around them would thaw.  I'm not sure any of them will come up since I transplanted them from Ohio to here in September.   :-\  I may have to start over.

Denny, do you find it easy to harvest your hops with them growing on woven wire fence?  I haven't put up poles, cable or anything yet because I haven't decided what type of trellis etc. that I want to use.  Last year I used cables horizontally at about 10 feet with a single hemp rope drop line for each mound of plants to climb.  It worked okay but stretching a couple of sections of woven wire would be easy to do and give the plants support for lower lateral spread (making a nice privacy screen from the road) if I put a couple of extra support poles in the middle. 
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: denny on March 09, 2010, 04:28:55 PM
Denny, do you find it easy to harvest your hops with them growing on woven wire fence?  I haven't put up poles, cable or anything yet because I haven't decided what type of trellis etc. that I want to use.  Last year I used cables horizontally at about 10 feet with a single hemp rope drop line for each mound of plants to climb.  It worked okay but stretching a couple of sections of woven wire would be easy to do and give the plants support for lower lateral spread (making a nice privacy screen from the road) if I put a couple of extra support poles in the middle. 

Well, I wouldn't say it's easy, but it's not too bad.  Your neck and arms get kinda tired after an hour or so, but after that amount of time I've picked all that will fit into my food dehydrator, anyway.  I usually pick daily for about a week or so, so it's not too bad. 
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: pinnah on March 09, 2010, 10:08:29 PM
Safer than getting up on a ladder! ;)

Hops work great for privacy screening, and if they are limited by height, the lateral branches really spread and fill in space.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: dean on March 10, 2010, 02:03:07 PM
Cool, I think I'll start hunting for some used fencing.  If I find enough I'll put two rows up so the height is about 10 feet or so... assuming my hops grow.   :-\   
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: Beertracker on March 11, 2010, 05:01:29 AM
Grow babies, grow! I better go check mine.  ;)
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: corkybstewart on March 11, 2010, 04:30:27 PM
My Cascades popped up this past weekend, still waiting for the Nuggets and Goldings.
Most of my hops are trellised, but I have some on a chain link fence and they produce at least as well as the trellised ones.  It's a lot easier to harvest too.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: euge on March 20, 2010, 06:31:27 PM
I'm jealous. ;) I'll put some in soon enough I guess...
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: enso on April 01, 2010, 01:08:08 PM
Denny, do you find it easy to harvest your hops with them growing on woven wire fence?  I haven't put up poles, cable or anything yet because I haven't decided what type of trellis etc. that I want to use.  Last year I used cables horizontally at about 10 feet with a single hemp rope drop line for each mound of plants to climb.  It worked okay but stretching a couple of sections of woven wire would be easy to do and give the plants support for lower lateral spread (making a nice privacy screen from the road) if I put a couple of extra support poles in the middle. 

Well, I wouldn't say it's easy, but it's not too bad.  Your neck and arms get kinda tired after an hour or so, but after that amount of time I've picked all that will fit into my food dehydrator, anyway.  I usually pick daily for about a week or so, so it's not too bad. 

Denny, do you have any photos of your hops growing on this system?  I am trying to rethink my hopyard this year as it has been rather unmanageable.  http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1836.0 (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1836.0)

Thanks.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: MrNate on April 01, 2010, 01:31:24 PM
My Fuggles have gone absolutely nuts this year! Bigger than the Cascade right now! I guess they like this wet, miserable weather - they are English, after all.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: denny on April 01, 2010, 03:52:14 PM


Denny, do you have any photos of your hops growing on this system?  I am trying to rethink my hopyard this year as it has been rather unmanageable.  http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1836.0 (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1836.0)

Thanks.
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Title: Re: My babies
Post by: enso on April 01, 2010, 03:58:32 PM
Thanks Denny.

Does that get so heavy it brings the fence down?  Do you do any trimming?  Does it excarbate pest disease problems?

Sorry for all the questions.  Just trying to figure this out.

Thanks!   ;D
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: denny on April 01, 2010, 04:54:42 PM
Does that get so heavy it brings the fence down?  Do you do any trimming?  Does it excarbate pest disease problems?

Nope to all of those.  Once I get the bines established on the fence, I don't do anything but water.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: bluesman on April 01, 2010, 05:01:49 PM
Do you fertilize them at all? They look really healthy.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: denny on April 01, 2010, 05:19:20 PM
Do you fertilize them at all? They look really healthy.

Nope, not really.  I planted them with a lot of compost, but that was 10 years ago.  I think maybe my wife might put some fish fertilizer on them when she's out in the garden, but if that happens it isn't more than once a year.  I just let them grow and do their thing!  Last year, IIRC, I got about 6 lb. dried from that crop you see in the pics.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: micsager on April 01, 2010, 05:31:39 PM
My Cascades popped up this past weekend, still waiting for the Nuggets and Goldings.
Most of my hops are trellised, but I have some on a chain link fence and they produce at least as well as the trellised ones.  It's a lot easier to harvest too.

That's what do, (chain link fence) it works great, but I assumed I was losing production.  Maybe not........
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: babalu87 on April 04, 2010, 03:35:30 AM
Our Fuggles poked through today

Mt Hoods and Cascades arent up yet

LHBS should have my Columbus rhizome this week.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: beerrat on April 14, 2010, 08:36:30 PM
I finally got out to check mine.  Nice growth for the brewers gold and cascades in NE PA.  I need to weed, toss some compost, and mulch.  Other then water, not much else during the year.  The soil is pretty bad construction fill, but a lot of compost fixes that up.

Brewers Gold: (http://gallery.me.com/dschreffler/100194/IMG_0557/web.jpg?ver=12712746330001)  Cascades: (http://gallery.me.com/dschreffler/100194/IMG_0558/web.jpg?ver=12712764150001)

I'm skipping building the trellis and going back to just training them onto the chain link fence. Bines balled up at the top of the trellis, mixed the 2 plants, and I was not able to easily lower rig as planned.  Also, solar array installed in the fall would be shaded by trellis, so solar wins and hops go back to chain link.  I got same production both years, so works out not having to build/maintain yet other structure ;-) .  Chain link is simple, gold goes left, cascades to the right.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: bluesman on April 14, 2010, 09:09:54 PM
My Magnum's are coming up now.  :)

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Title: Re: My babies
Post by: MrNate on April 15, 2010, 03:44:46 AM
Where did you get Magnums? I seem to remember having a hell of a time finding them.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: dean on April 15, 2010, 11:22:22 AM
Freshops had Magnum rhizomes this year, I wanted to get a couple but missed them.   :(  Since my hops are in an experimental location this year maybe its a good thing?
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: bluesman on April 15, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
Where did you get Magnums? I seem to remember having a hell of a time finding them.

I got them from Freshhops about 3 years ago.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: MrNate on April 15, 2010, 05:43:37 PM
Hmm... think you might take a Saaz cutting for one of those bad boys next year?
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: dean on April 28, 2010, 01:28:12 PM
How are everyone's hops doing this year so far?  I've got most of mine up now, still a few I'm waiting to see if they're gonna bust through but I'm starting to doubt they will now.  Out of the original 17 I started with I have 14 up and from those I started three more Centennials, one of those is up so I have 15 plants growing.  I put up my poles and ran my top wire, its about 14 feet at one end and 10 feet at the other end.  Its on a slope and I wanted to kinda level the top.  I ran a second wire about 6 feet below the top wire just to see if it would help the lateral shoots later this summer.   I used clothes-line drops for the bines to grow on.  I've already had one guy stop and ask me what the hell am I doing and what is that?!  I'm thinking of  putting up a sign with some sort of bullshyt story about it just to start a rumor or something.   :D  Flying bolo monkey squirrel trap maybe?   ???  :D
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: denny on April 28, 2010, 03:42:47 PM
It's been a few weeks since I've checked on mine, so I really oughta get out there.  Last time I checked on 'em, I needed to pull handfuls of shoots.  I'd bet it's time to do it again!
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: bluesman on April 28, 2010, 04:33:46 PM
It's been a few weeks since I've checked on mine, so I really oughta get out there.  Last time I checked on 'em, I needed to pull handfuls of shoots.  I'd bet it's time to do it again!

+1

I want to figure out a way to get them to grow higher. Maybe attach some twine to the 2nd story soffit or to a nearby tree. I think they would benefit by this. Like the commercial guys do it. Better yields and hopefully less mites.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: enso on April 28, 2010, 06:36:09 PM
Mine were poppin' up all over.  Pruned back the roots on the older ones last week.

Today...

6 inches of snow.   >:(
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: wingnut on April 28, 2010, 06:52:44 PM
Glad to hear the hops are popping out across the land!

Here in Michigan, we had a mild spring so far... and my 2nd year hops started to pop Mid March.  We have had some thick frosts, but no snows since the hops started to pop, so their early entrance has been great!

Five of my Eight plants have shoots 4Ft long already, and even my Goldings are nearing the 2Ft Mark.  (Last year I only had two first year plants top the 4ft mark, and that took the whole growing season)

This year, I started watering them with Tomato Fertilizer once a week, starting four weeks ago, and their growth has been amazing.  I am hoping the Fertilizer will make up for the Potasium deficiency my soil has.

Now if only I can keep the Spider Mites from taking over like they did last year, I think I am going to have a good crop!

Good luck with your babies, I think I will go see how mine are doing today!
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: beerocd on April 28, 2010, 09:55:32 PM
It's been a few weeks since I've checked on mine,

Live on the PONDEROSA? How do you not check for weeks?

Now that we all have the Bonanza theme song in our heads...  ;D
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: beerocd on April 28, 2010, 10:08:36 PM

I want to figure out a way to get them to grow higher. Maybe attach some twine to the 2nd story soffit or to a nearby tree. I think they would benefit by this. Like the commercial guys do it. Better yields and hopefully less mites.

Bag of concrete, and two 1/2" copper pipes soldered together. I have 18' vertical, planted 6' from the pole so just about 19' of line to grow on. It's almost as wobbly as cooked spaghetti until you stake your lines down, then it's rock solid. 6 varieties plus two extra lines staked. I looked up lightning rod theory and all that - I'm good.  ;)

I had mites in the greenhouse, where I grew them 1st year. I sprayed in there for pests, and when all the pests are gone - spider mites have no competition. They had a good ole time.  >:(
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: bluesman on April 29, 2010, 02:08:24 AM

I want to figure out a way to get them to grow higher. Maybe attach some twine to the 2nd story soffit or to a nearby tree. I think they would benefit by this. Like the commercial guys do it. Better yields and hopefully less mites.

Bag of concrete, and two 1/2" copper pipes soldered together. I have 18' vertical, planted 6' from the pole so just about 19' of line to grow on. It's almost as wobbly as cooked spaghetti until you stake your lines down, then it's rock solid. 6 varieties plus two extra lines staked. I looked up lightning rod theory and all that - I'm good.  ;)

I had mites in the greenhouse, where I grew them 1st year. I sprayed in there for pests, and when all the pests are gone - spider mites have no competition. They had a good ole time.  >:(

Can you post some pics? Sounds like it might work for me.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: dean on April 29, 2010, 01:56:33 PM
I don't think we'll see another hop shortage for a while, I just received a notice from our local MSU agent that reported acreage planted to hops has gone up ~35% across the US.  In the Traverse City area (Lelenau County) there are farmers putting in 30 and 40 acre plots to hops.  According to the report most of the Great Lakes States have farms putting them in again for the first time since nearly a hundred years.  Michigan is pushing the theme "buy local" on everything and the microbreweries are one of the businesses stepping up.

The report has a lot of information in it, most of it we know but it also answered a few questions.... like small cone size could be from a virus they are prone , slow stunted growth etc.  Interesting read.  Optimum soil pH is 6.5 but they do okay between 5.7 and 7.5.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: denny on April 29, 2010, 03:48:36 PM
It's been a few weeks since I've checked on mine,

Live on the PONDEROSA? How do you not check for weeks?

Now that we all have the Bonanza theme song in our heads...  ;D

They're out in the back of the garden....out of sight, out of mind, ya know!  Fortunately, my wife the gardener says every once in a while "You ought to go look at your hops"!
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: bluesman on April 29, 2010, 04:35:33 PM
They're out in the back of the garden....out of sight, out of mind, ya know!  Fortunately, my wife the gardener says every once in a while "You ought to go look at your hops"!

Your lucky in the sense that hops love the climate where you live. I'm jealous. I have to babysit my hops in Delaware. It's okay though because I enjoy watching them grow. It's the green thumb in me.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: corkybstewart on April 29, 2010, 10:12:19 PM
I checked mine at lunch today and I've got the first tiny baby cones showing up on one of my Cascades. A little too early again, the first harvest always tastes like lawn clippings.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: dbeechum on April 29, 2010, 10:30:03 PM
I just planted mine 2 weeks ago and now I've got some shoots happening, so woo!
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: FishinHank on April 30, 2010, 08:36:20 PM
I planted a few rhizomes of Cascade about a week ago, nothing doing yet though.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: weithman5 on April 30, 2010, 08:53:20 PM
planted sentiem, magnum, sterling 2 weeks ago. magnum breaking through. hopefully others to follow this week.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: glitterbug on April 30, 2010, 09:08:41 PM
I planted a few rhizomes of Cascade about a week ago, nothing doing yet though.

"There can be only one"   ;D
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: edward on May 04, 2010, 05:32:08 PM
I only have three plants.  One is 2 ft tall, one is 3ft tall, and another is 8 ft tall.  I do need to prune off some of the excess shoots though.  Plants grow well early here, but towards the end of summer there is just not enough sunlight.

I ran three lines of twine for each rhizome from the ground to the eaves of the house, which is about 18 ft.  Last year none of the plants made it to the eaves, but I think this year it will be a formality.  I told my wife that I may need to run more twine this year and she gave me the stare of death.
Title: Re: My babies
Post by: alikocho on May 15, 2010, 08:13:47 PM
I've got some Challenger, Target, Northdown and Goldings in on my allotment, all of which seem to be doing well and climbing the fence. I'm in the UK, so can only lay my hands easily on European hops. Going to grow some noble hops next year.

I know the feeling when the s/o gives you the stare of death because you want to grow/acquire more brewing related stuff.