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Title: Goose Island beer
Post by: euge on May 12, 2013, 09:56:13 PM
I'd only heard of the far off brewery Goose Island and never in my life thought it would ever be on the shelves here but lo and behold... ;D

I've had a 750 of "Sofie" farmhouse ale and am sipping on some "Summertime" which is a Kolsch evidently.

So far all have been excellent. Could it be that the recent appearance has anything to do with InBev?
Title: Goose Island beer
Post by: cheshirecat on May 12, 2013, 10:24:55 PM
A couple months ago I ran into a guy that worked in Goose Island's yeast/quality lab. According to him In Bev only brews their IPA and couplen other of their "main stream" beers. That helped open up fermenter space to make more of their other beers. So in a way yes. He also told me part of the agreement is Goose Island still has final say on ingredients and recipe changes. They also do quality control on what In Bev brews.

Over the last two years I have certainly seen their beers more often in the Bay Area.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 12, 2013, 11:34:07 PM
A couple months ago I ran into a guy that worked in Goose Island's yeast/quality lab. According to him In Bev only brews their IPA and couplen other of their "main stream" beers. That helped open up fermenter space to make more of their other beers. So in a way yes. He also told me part of the agreement is Goose Island still has final say on ingredients and recipe changes. They also do quality control on what In Bev brews.

Over the last two years I have certainly seen their beers more often in the Bay Area.
I hope the suits keep their paws out of Bourbon County Stout.  Love that one.  I'm sure over time it won't be cost effective.
Title: Goose Island beer
Post by: duboman on May 13, 2013, 12:37:30 AM
It has everything to do with InBev and yes, they still maintain control so the beer is still Goose.

Distribution is expected to ramp up nationally and I believe they now have one of the largest barrel aging programs in the country as well as a brand new facility that strictly handles wild yeast to the tune of about a million $'s
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: corkybstewart on May 13, 2013, 03:34:40 AM
I've spent too much time the past few years sitting in the Goose Island pub in O'Hare Airport, but I loved their beer, especially the Matilda on tap.  But we can now get 312 Wheat(one of my favorites at the airport) and Honker at a restaurant in Carlsbad.  Both are insipid, tasteless shells of what I enjoyed too much of at the airport.  I don't know if it's a freshness issue or an InBev issue but the beer I get here truly and royally sucks.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: jeffy on May 13, 2013, 11:16:55 AM
I've spent too much time the past few years sitting in the Goose Island pub in O'Hare Airport, but I loved their beer, especially the Matilda on tap.  But we can now get 312 Wheat(one of my favorites at the airport) and Honker at a restaurant in Carlsbad.  Both are insipid, tasteless shells of what I enjoyed too much of at the airport.  I don't know if it's a freshness issue or an InBev issue but the beer I get here truly and royally sucks.

I got a six-pack of Honkers last week that I thought was very good.  It seemed fresh to me.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: udubdawg on May 13, 2013, 12:25:51 PM
I often find old Honkers sitting around shelves.  Got fooled by a date not long ago, not noticing the 13 was actually a 12.   :o  When fresh, it is still fantastic.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: beersk on May 13, 2013, 01:19:18 PM
I've always been a Goose Island fan, drank a lot of of the 312 back in my formative beer years. I remember I went to a Cubs game a few years ago and afterwards my friend and I stopped at a bar a couple blocks away from Wrigley and got a Honker's. It was the freshest pint of Honker's I'd ever had, it rocked.  I miss the oatmeal stout, but they stopped bottling that a few years ago, it was one of my favorite commercial versions. I'm kind of surprised Sam Adam's doesn't have an oatmeal stout, now that I think about it.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: gmac on May 13, 2013, 01:55:23 PM
I picked up a 750s of Matilda and Sofie here in Southern Ontario on the weekend.  Clearly there has been a recent push to really expand distribution if I'm finding it here in Canada now.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 13, 2013, 02:07:18 PM
Love their Pere Jacques and drank a 750 while brewing yesterday.  Of course, I added 1.5 lbs of sugar to the wrong kettle...

I've been drinking their beer pretty much since they opened.  Their growlers are a great deal and they give the AHA discount without question.  The brew pub always has a variety of stuff they don't bottle.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: brewmichigan on May 13, 2013, 02:19:45 PM
I haven't seen a 750 of Sophie here in years. It's all four packs now which I prefer anyways. It's funny that production has seemed to ramp up for them but I can't find sophie hardly anywhere. It's my wife's favorite beer and I buy it whenever I see it. I hear bourbon county will go year round now too.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: reverseapachemaster on May 13, 2013, 02:37:17 PM
We've started getting Goose Island in the past few months. I like a lot of the beers and they aren't showing up in poor quality. We're not getting BCS or either Pepe beers but I'm hopeful it will show eventually.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 13, 2013, 02:39:27 PM
I haven't seen a 750 of Sophie here in years. It's all four packs now which I prefer anyways. It's funny that production has seemed to ramp up for them but I can't find sophie hardly anywhere. It's my wife's favorite beer and I buy it whenever I see it. I hear bourbon county will go year round now too.
I found Bourbon County in liquor stores in Indy this year that only have a decent craft beer selection normally, so production must obviously be up on it too.  A good thing.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: nateo on May 13, 2013, 02:47:26 PM
ABInbev has the best brewers and equipment in the world. They can make anything they want, they've just only wanted to make light lagers in the past. IIRC they have the largest barrel aging program in the country now. It's pretty awesome that craft beer is coming to restaurants and bars where you wouldn't see anything fancier than Corona.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 13, 2013, 02:50:40 PM
We've started getting Goose Island in the past few months. I like a lot of the beers and they aren't showing up in poor quality. We're not getting BCS or either Pepe beers but I'm hopeful it will show eventually.

Pepe Nero has to be the nastiest beer I ever tasted.  Or close to it.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: morticaixavier on May 13, 2013, 02:52:20 PM
We've started getting Goose Island in the past few months. I like a lot of the beers and they aren't showing up in poor quality. We're not getting BCS or either Pepe beers but I'm hopeful it will show eventually.

Pepe Nero has to be the nastiest beer I ever tasted.  Or close to it.

I don't know, I liked it. I have another bottle in the closet for some time later as well. see how it changes over time.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: nateo on May 13, 2013, 02:56:21 PM
The nastiest beer I've had is a tie between Leiny's fruity pebbles wheat, and Magic Hat's "Not quite pale ale." I think Magic Hat slightly edges it out, just because what I got was so far from my expectations. I expected something similar to a pale ale. Boy, was that disappointing.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 13, 2013, 03:02:58 PM
We've started getting Goose Island in the past few months. I like a lot of the beers and they aren't showing up in poor quality. We're not getting BCS or either Pepe beers but I'm hopeful it will show eventually.

Pepe Nero has to be the nastiest beer I ever tasted.  Or close to it.

I don't know, I liked it. I have another bottle in the closet for some time later as well. see how it changes over time.

Fair enough.  You can have my share.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: euge on May 14, 2013, 10:38:36 PM
I'm drinking a Pepe Nero 750 right now while the grill warms up. What a f'ing awesome beer.

Also have a bottle of Pere Jaques. All this beer tastes fresh, well handled and of the utmost quality. I am so glad it is available!
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 14, 2013, 10:59:20 PM
I'm in their Wrigleyville pub having a Dublin stout.

You can keep the Nero. Nasty stuff.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: gmac on May 15, 2013, 12:29:17 AM

You can keep the Nero. Nasty stuff.
Well now I wanna try it.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: beersk on May 15, 2013, 12:59:44 PM
I'm in their Wrigleyville pub having a Dublin stout.

You can keep the Nero. Nasty stuff.
Jealous! I love that pub. The one time I was in there was just packed, as it was after a Cubs game. But I found one spot at the bar, which was cool. Only stayed for one beer since I didn't have much time.  Would love to throw down a few there sometime.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: jeffy on May 15, 2013, 01:58:39 PM
I'm in their Wrigleyville pub having a Dublin stout.

You can keep the Nero. Nasty stuff.
Jealous! I love that pub. The one time I was in there was just packed, as it was after a Cubs game. But I found one spot at the bar, which was cool. Only stayed for one beer since I didn't have much time.  Would love to throw down a few there sometime.

They used to have the Real Ale Festival there back in the day, which was a great reason to visit Chicago for a weekend.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on May 15, 2013, 04:00:36 PM
This is a little off-topic, but a couple of former brewers for Goose Island are starting their own 40-bbl brewery in Geneva, IL, shortly.  http://www.penrosebrewing.com/

I've heard that they are bringing a few other Goose Island employees with them. 
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 15, 2013, 04:06:36 PM
This is a little off-topic, but a couple of former brewers for Goose Island are starting their own 40-bbl brewery in Geneva, IL, shortly.  http://www.penrosebrewing.com/

I've heard that they are bringing a few other Goose Island employees with them.

I think there's been a bit of a diaspora since the ownership change, though I think to some degree there were always people leaking out to other local breweries.  This is good for the local craft beer scene. I'm not sure if the rate has increased, but I bet it has.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: beersk on May 15, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
This is a little off-topic, but a couple of former brewers for Goose Island are starting their own 40-bbl brewery in Geneva, IL, shortly.  http://www.penrosebrewing.com/

I've heard that they are bringing a few other Goose Island employees with them.

I think there's been a bit of a diaspora since the ownership change, though I think to some degree there were always people leaking out to other local breweries.  This is good for the local craft beer scene. I'm not sure if the rate has increased, but I bet it has.
Diaspora...good word! Hope Penrose's beer comes to Iowa.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: BrewingRover on May 16, 2013, 12:14:39 AM
I think there's been a bit of a diaspora since the ownership change, though I think to some degree there were always people leaking out to other local breweries.  This is good for the local craft beer scene. I'm not sure if the rate has increased, but I bet it has.

There's a bunch of former GI brewers in this video celebrating 25 years (It's  too long and doesn't mention InBev, but oh well.)
http://beerpulse.com/2013/05/goose-island-beer-company-celebrates-25-years-video/

The brewpub still does some great stuff. And I too wish they'd bring back the oatmeal stout.
Title: Re: Goose Island beer
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on May 16, 2013, 11:56:38 PM
This is a little off-topic, but a couple of former brewers for Goose Island are starting their own 40-bbl brewery in Geneva, IL, shortly.  http://www.penrosebrewing.com/

I've heard that they are bringing a few other Goose Island employees with them.

I think there's been a bit of a diaspora since the ownership change, though I think to some degree there were always people leaking out to other local breweries.  This is good for the local craft beer scene. I'm not sure if the rate has increased, but I bet it has.

I think you're right about GI employees fanning out to other breweries.  Besides Tom and Eric who are starting Penrose, I met a former GI sales rep who now works for Summit last month who said that GI lost approximately 40% of its workforce (voluntarily migration) after AB In-Bev took over.

I have no opinion on GI beer since the AB In-Bev purchase because I really haven't had too much GI beer, even before the buyout.  But I can tell you that when I met Tom and Eric at this year's Craft Brewer's Conference, they were super cool guys and I am genuinely excited about their brewery.  I have relatives in Geneva and I'll be making a trip there once Penrose opens its doors.