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Title: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: flbrewer on May 15, 2013, 03:27:31 PM
How long or how many batches of extract did it take for you to go all grain? Does anyone stick w extract?
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: denny on May 15, 2013, 03:34:55 PM
I switched after about 6 extract/steeping grain batches.  Never did extract without grain.  I did one partial mash batch and realized that it took as much time as AG would.  I switched to AG after that.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: davidgzach on May 15, 2013, 03:35:49 PM
A lot of people stick with extract and there are a lot of great extract beers out there.  I switched after about a year back in the hobby after a hiatus.  But there are a couple of extract beers I cannot duplicate with all-grain.  I may have to go back and brew them again.

Dave
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: denverjames on May 15, 2013, 03:41:55 PM
I've been homebrewing for close to 20 years. I still do partial mash brewing just because I don't have all the equipment for all grain brewing. The time factor also plays into it a bit. I do want to move into all grain this year though.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: cheshirecat on May 15, 2013, 03:46:59 PM
I switch to partial mash after about 6 months, then all grain after another 6. Really I would have switched earlier but living in an apartment I debated for a while whether I had the space or not. Then I just said screw it and now I pretty much live on top of my brew gear. Still the best decision I have ever made.  :)

Honestly though it is a personal decision. If you haven't already, I would say invest in temp control first. That will make the biggest impact on your beer. Nothing like spending 5-6 hours brewing only to have your beer develop off flavors do to bad fermentation. I still make a PM or extract batch now and again, I am always amazed how much better it turns out now that I can control temps. 

Good luck!
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: DrewG on May 15, 2013, 03:48:27 PM
4 extract w/grains batches and then all-grain.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: klickitat jim on May 15, 2013, 03:48:29 PM
AG two months after starting
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: thebigbaker on May 15, 2013, 03:48:35 PM
I switched to all grain after my 3rd batch of extract.  From all the great advice from the guys at my LHBS and the members of this board, I realized how easy it was to do brew all grain batches.  Brewing all grain can be as simple or complicated as you want it to be.  If brewing all grain meant you had to have a fully automated RIMS system to brew, then I'd still be doing extract brews.

Edit:  Then again, maybe one day I'll have a fully automated RIMS system ;D
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: garc_mall on May 15, 2013, 03:52:35 PM
I was also one of the quick-switchers. It took me about 3 months and 6 batches. I put a bazooka screen in an old cooler, and I was off and never looked back. I will still do extract batches on occasion, simply because they are easy. However, most of my session beers require a lower fermentability than I can get out of extract.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: theDarkSide on May 15, 2013, 03:55:01 PM
I started out with extract after my wife bought me a homebrew kit at a brewer's festival.  I think I did 3 or 4 batches, but then stopped brewing for a while ( :P).  I took up the hobby again a couple years later, brewed maybe 3 extract recipes, then switched to all-grain, and have been doing them for about 6 years.  I haven't done an extract recipe since (unless you count starters  ;D).

Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 15, 2013, 04:03:01 PM
I have not yet after ~20 years of brewing.

However, the percentage/volume of grain in my partial mash has been increasing incrementally over the years.

I've thought about it and put together a mash tun, but I'm almost too comfortable with my current process to go through the effort of switching.  Someday when I have more free time, perhaps.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: repo on May 15, 2013, 04:07:24 PM
Batch 7 was all grain, I knew after # 2 where it was headed and slowly began to purchase the equipment.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on May 15, 2013, 04:08:02 PM
Started in 92, went all grain after about 30 batches, so 94. That was back when all grain was considered to require lots of skill and knowledge (pre-internet). After doing it the first time, I said "that is all there is to it?".
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: beersk on May 15, 2013, 04:19:24 PM
I think I did 4 extract batches, then did a couple 3 gallon all grain batches, then did a couple 5 gallon partial mash (this was all stove top), then moved to 5 gallon all grain outside with a propane burner.

Now, 4 years after starting all grain, I'm doing 4 gallon all grain batches on the stove top. Got a nice stove that handles 5.5 gallon boils. It's the right amount of beer for me.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: narvin on May 15, 2013, 04:23:25 PM
I did one extract (w/steeping grains) batch with help from a friend who had done a few before.  I fermented it myself and immediately wanted to start on my next batch.  After reading How To Brew and everything Denny had posted on the NB forum (this was 7 or 8 years ago), I immediately bought a cooler and did an all grain batch next.  And kegged it   ;D

Of course, it took me a few more months to give up that stupid spinning Phil's sparge arm.  Why I didn't listen to Denny about that I don't know.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 15, 2013, 04:24:00 PM
I started in 92 as well, did ~ 15 extract/steeping grain batches.  My next plan was to try partial mashing, but realized that it would take the same amount of time as AG. So I dove in and ,like Jeff mentioned, wondered what all the fuss was about afterward.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: guido on May 15, 2013, 04:28:29 PM
Like just about everyone, I started with extracts for about four years and thought I was a really good homebrewer.  Then I entered a competition and got my butt handed to me on a plate.  I took some time off from brewing and re-tooled my entire operation.  That's when I switched to all-grain.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: tcanova on May 15, 2013, 04:29:00 PM
Started in '91 and was taught by one of my cousins, who had been brewing for a while, all grain.  So I started with all grain.  Speaking of pre-internet, who remembers "The Cat's Meow"?  I still have copy on one of my brew book shelves.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 15, 2013, 04:31:31 PM
Started in '91 and was taught by one of my cousins, who had been brewing for a while, all grain.  So I started with all grain.  Speaking of pre-internet, who remembers "The Cat's Meow"?  I still have copy on one of my brew book shelves.
Wow, there's a flashback!
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on May 15, 2013, 04:32:05 PM
after my 6 or 7 partial grain/steep extract kits, i made the move to all grain. for me, there wasn't enough ability to control the finished product with the extract, and i wasn't enjoying my beer all that much. watched some videos, asked a ton of questions on the forums, and dived in head first..best move i made in brewing :P
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: jeffy on May 15, 2013, 04:38:46 PM
I brewed a few kits and in 1990 or 1991 then made a Zapap mash tun using instructions from the Complete Joy with about a hundred 1/8 inch holes drilled into the bottom of one bucket and a hose stuck into another bucket.  I made good beer with that for years.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: The Professor on May 15, 2013, 04:41:48 PM
I brewed from extract for around 15 years before going all grain in the mid/late '80s.
The reasons for the delay were threefold:   1)  I was fairly satisfied by my extract brews (though perhaps not blown away by them);   2)  space considerations regarding the setup of all grain brewing;  and 3)  being irrationally intimidated by the perceived difficulty of the all-grain process.  I bought a house in the mid '80s that finally allowed me to build a dedicated brew kitchen and, with some help and great advice from Al Andrews and from "Stew's Brews" (anyone here remember them??),  I took the plunge.

I only wish I'd realized before that how dead simple it all really was...I would have taken the plunge much sooner.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: duncan on May 15, 2013, 04:57:54 PM
I did 3 extract with specialty grain batches before switching over. Honestly, I bought into the "all-grain is inherently better than extract" debate and blamed all my off-flavors and flaws on the extract. Needless to say, I paved the way for a rude awakening thinking brewing all-grain was going to fix all the issues  :o, but I am glad my ignorance pushed me to all-grain.

The biggest challenge for me was having the scratch to upgrade my equipment for all-grain brewing. Other than that, I was hoping to make my brew days longer and more involved...and sure enough they are! The mess is a little bigger, too  ;D

Any prospective all-grain brewers who don't know where to start making the jump should check out the AHA's new Introduction to All-Grain Brewing (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/pages/lets-brew/get-schooled/master-the-mash/all-grain-brewing-videos) video series based on Denny's cheap and easy batch sparge method. The homemade mash tun (directions in the videos) can be made on the cheap and that is one of the biggest expenses when upgrading!

Cheers!
Duncan
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: denny on May 15, 2013, 05:27:59 PM
After doing it the first time, I said "that is all there is to it?".

Every single person I've taught to brew AG has said exactly that!
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: denny on May 15, 2013, 05:29:25 PM
Why I didn't listen to Denny about that I don't know.

Everybody learns at their own pace!  :)
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: denny on May 15, 2013, 05:30:39 PM
Started in '91 and was taught by one of my cousins, who had been brewing for a while, all grain.  So I started with all grain.  Speaking of pre-internet, who remembers "The Cat's Meow"?  I still have copy on one of my brew book shelves.

Oh, yeah!  Worst recipe database ever!  Did you do rec.cafts.brewing, too?
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: blatz on May 15, 2013, 05:30:53 PM
I switched after about 6 extract/steeping grain batches.  Never did extract without grain.  I did one partial mash batch and realized that it took as much time as AG would.  I switched to AG after that.

same here - 6 batches, though straight to all grain.  and some guy Denny helped make it seem less overwhelming than when I read about and so I tried it.  8 years and 160+ batches later and some might say i'm obsessed  :P
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: thatgeekguy on May 15, 2013, 05:32:50 PM
After about six months and eight batches of extract/steeping grains. Have done two batches of all-grain using BIAB, and have been very pleased with the results and the lower costs.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: drjones on May 15, 2013, 05:35:14 PM
I jumped to all grain after a steeping kit and a partial mash kit, but primarily because a buddy had provided most of the equipment I needed to go there.  That aside, I've been recently impressed at how excellent a friend's kit beers have been.  It seems the main reason to take the plunge is when you want to work with Vienna, Munich, Rauch, Rye and straight wheat malts that will be hard to find as extracts.  Otherwise, I'm quite convinced that most of the kit manufacturers have really dialed in those recipes.  The rest is up the the brewer - good process=good beer.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: yso191 on May 15, 2013, 05:39:43 PM
I have never done an extract brew - started right off with all-grain.  I just thought that if I'm going to end up there, I might as well go for it.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: gymrat on May 15, 2013, 05:41:42 PM
May 1 2012. About a year and a half after I started brewing.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on May 15, 2013, 06:42:39 PM
Started in '91 and was taught by one of my cousins, who had been brewing for a while, all grain.  So I started with all grain.  Speaking of pre-internet, who remembers "The Cat's Meow"?  I still have copy on one of my brew book shelves.
Wow, there's a flashback!
yes, I remember that. "I haven't/just brewed this and I know it is going to be really good."
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: Slowbrew on May 15, 2013, 07:00:58 PM
Started in '91 and was taught by one of my cousins, who had been brewing for a while, all grain.  So I started with all grain.  Speaking of pre-internet, who remembers "The Cat's Meow"?  I still have copy on one of my brew book shelves.

Oh, yeah!  Worst recipe database ever!  Did you do rec.cafts.brewing, too?

I read a lot post on rec.crafts.  I don't think I ever posted though.

Paul
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: denny on May 15, 2013, 07:01:36 PM
Started in '91 and was taught by one of my cousins, who had been brewing for a while, all grain.  So I started with all grain.  Speaking of pre-internet, who remembers "The Cat's Meow"?  I still have copy on one of my brew book shelves.
Wow, there's a flashback!
yes, I remember that. "I haven't/just brewed this and I know it is going to be really good."

IIRC, there was one recipe there that was just 10 lb. of crystal....nothing else.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 15, 2013, 07:04:00 PM
Started in '91 and was taught by one of my cousins, who had been brewing for a while, all grain.  So I started with all grain.  Speaking of pre-internet, who remembers "The Cat's Meow"?  I still have copy on one of my brew book shelves.
Wow, there's a flashback!
yes, I remember that. "I haven't/just brewed this and I know it is going to be really good."

IIRC, there was one recipe there that was just 10 lb. of crystal....nothing else.
+1.  Hilarious !  There were some horrendous recipes on there.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: fmader on May 15, 2013, 07:21:39 PM
I started extract brewing in March of 2012. After about 7 or 8 batches, I switched to all grain in June of 2012. The first two all grain batches I brewed, I made from scratch. Then second of which was a cherry stout, and to my surprise, it took first place in the region of the NHC this year. I ordered a handful of all grain kits after that, but I do all my own at this point. I got my membership for the AHA for Christmas and have learned so much since then. You are at the benefit of having infinite brewing education at your finger tips. If you're asking this question, you must think you are or close to being ready for the transition. So I say go for it! I feel that brewing a beer from scratch is much more rewarding than using extracts and kits. Good luck!
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: tcanova on May 15, 2013, 09:48:53 PM
Started in '91 and was taught by one of my cousins, who had been brewing for a while, all grain.  So I started with all grain.  Speaking of pre-internet, who remembers "The Cat's Meow"?  I still have copy on one of my brew book shelves.

Oh, yeah!  Worst recipe database ever!  Did you do rec.cafts.brewing, too?

Yes I did.  I may have to go home tonight and see if I can dig up my copy of Cat's Meow and flip through it!   
Title: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: denny on May 15, 2013, 10:47:12 PM
Started in '91 and was taught by one of my cousins, who had been brewing for a while, all grain.  So I started with all grain.  Speaking of pre-internet, who remembers "The Cat's Meow"?  I still have copy on one of my brew book shelves.

Oh, yeah!  Worst recipe database ever!  Did you do rec.cafts.brewing, too?

Yes I did.  I may have to go home tonight and see if I can dig up my copy of Cat's Meow and flip through it!

When were you on rcb?  We might have "known" each other back then.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: jamminbrew on May 15, 2013, 11:46:37 PM
It only took me 6 batches to make the switch. Been doing AG ever since, but I have given some thought to doing another extract batch again. And now that I have a lot more knowledge and experience, it would be interesting to see how the same type of beer would fare against an extract one.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: dbarber on May 16, 2013, 12:04:16 AM
I brewed extract for a couple of years in the late 90s then took a break.  I started doing all-grain after moving up north and joining the local club.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: tygo on May 16, 2013, 12:08:02 AM
I did extract batches, graduating from Mr. Beer to a 5g setup, for about 2 years from about 2004.  Started doing partial mashes, then bigger partial mashes, then ran out of space in my old townhouse to really get to the next step and stopped brewing for awhile. 

Once we moved into a bigger house in 2009 I thought, "Hey, I've got some space here.".  Went back to it and straight to all grain at that point and (as my wife would put it) it's been downhill ever since.   ;D
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: malzig on May 16, 2013, 12:20:56 AM
I think I made 3 extract beers, 2 partial mashes, then went all grain.  About 100 batches ago, roughly.

I've tried making extract beers a few times since then.  I can make a decent extract Weizen, but otherwise I never really learned how to make extract versions of the styles I prefer that I was happy with.
Title: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: majorvices on May 16, 2013, 01:36:49 AM
Sometime in 1995.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: gmac on May 16, 2013, 01:59:09 AM
The moment I realized that Denny's Batch Sparge website was as simple as it seemed.
Title: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: denny on May 16, 2013, 02:00:19 AM
The moment I realized that Denny's Batch Sparge website was as simple as it seemed.

And so is Denny!
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: Franklin on May 16, 2013, 02:18:48 AM
It was Batch # 18. Back in Feb 2012...DC Rye IPA, Followed the recipe to the letter...Blue cooler, 8 gallon aluminum pot, Batch Sparge...Took great notes...Never looked back...Thanks to DC and those who give all of us great intel and feedback...YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !!!!! 
Title: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: majorvices on May 16, 2013, 03:09:38 AM
The moment I realized that Denny's Batch Sparge website was as simple as it seemed.

Still think that's the best method to brew 5-10+ gallon batches. So much easier and faster. And every bit as good as fly sparse, if not better.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: erockrph on May 16, 2013, 04:11:51 AM
My first batch was an extract kit, and then I pretty much dove headlong into designing my own recipes. Right after that I realized that there was no reason I had to brew in 5-gallon increments, so I started brewing 3 gallon batches. Then I learned about BIAB, and said "that's for me!" and jumped into all-grain.

My first extract brew was in January after I got a kit for Xmas. My first all-grain brew was in August. I'm glad I made the jump to AG so quickly. Even though the brew day is a lot longer, I enjoy the brew day, the process, and the end result a lot more. I end up brewing more often, too.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: reverseapachemaster on May 16, 2013, 04:14:18 AM
I think my fifth or sixth batch was all grain. I haven't brewed an extract batch since. I remember going into my first AG thinking I was going to screw everything up and coming out thinking I did ok. Actually, I did make a colossal error. I left my scale set to ounces instead of grams when I did the water adjustments. I ended up with incredibly salty brown ale. It was undrinkable but made really good brine for meats and did a nice job to boil hot dogs. I found a few bottles a couple months ago and gave one a taste before pouring it out. It tasted like olive juice. It was three years old.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: bboy9000 on May 16, 2013, 04:32:30 AM
Went all grain after seven months which was my 12th batch.  Did two Mr. Beer kits to try brewing in January 2012, did extract with specialty grains after that, then my 12th batch was the first time going all-grain and doing a yeast starter.  It was the best beer I made to that point.  I'm currently on batch 33 and have done one extract batch since going all-grain.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: swampale on May 16, 2013, 10:14:09 AM
It took me 4 years to get my all grain equipment together. I couldn't find any reasonable brew pots in Canada at the time. ( 1994 ). My BIL bought a cottage in Ontario and came here from FL every summer. I sent him used Sanke kegs from the US and he brought them up one at a time every May. Still using those same kegs and converted everything to electric in 2003.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: micsager on May 16, 2013, 02:04:34 PM
I started brewing at a BoP place about 70 miles from my home.  My wife (at the time) bought me a gift certificate.  Brewed extract beers there for a couple years, but they went out of business.  I didn't want to stop brewing, so I find MidWest Brewing supplies and started home brewing extract batches.  I accidentaly bought a minimash recipe, looked at the instructions and thought "oh sh*t."  But, I did it.  I had no friends who knew about brewing, had not yet heard of the BN.

I went all grain the next batch and never looked back. 

Today, our beer is available at a couple bars in town. 
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: odin on May 28, 2013, 05:03:03 PM
4 exstract batches then went all grain
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: tonyp on May 28, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
Not sure how many extract batches I did beforehand, but I took an 8 yr break then did about 3 or 4 extract batches before going all-grain.
Title: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: In The Sand on May 28, 2013, 05:15:08 PM
One extract batch, then AG
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: Pinski on May 28, 2013, 05:22:53 PM
When I had a garage again. 
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: ocddot on May 28, 2013, 05:46:25 PM
after my second batch of extract.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on December 20, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
I made 5 extract kits.....hated them and made the switch to all grain  and never looked back.


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Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: trapae on December 21, 2013, 12:52:43 AM
6 extract batches, then to all grain.  Haven't done an extract since.  I, like I think most others, really like the all grain process.  CountryTime vs freshly squeezed?
T
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: tommymorris on December 21, 2013, 01:39:51 AM
I did extract for more than a year. Not sure. Maybe two years.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: cornershot on December 21, 2013, 02:23:04 AM
I started in January '94 and  brewed 30+ extract batches a year for the first 5 or 6 years. Then my brewing tapered off to 3 or 4 extract batches a year until I got laid off in 2007. Then, with more time on my hands and less money, I started AG and I'm back up to 30+ batches a year. So I guess the Great Recession fueled my personal brewing Renaissance. Thanks Wall street!

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Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: dkfick on December 21, 2013, 02:34:03 AM
I switched to all grain after my first batch.  Made the extract batch in my kitchen... Then joined a homebrew club and used their pico system until I bought my own.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: ynotbrusum on December 21, 2013, 05:02:52 AM
I made the switch once the extract batches started tasting like "kits",  probably around the 10th or so batch...they weren't bad, just mediocre enough to tell me to try all grain.   Getting a keggle and related equipment helped, of course!
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: euge on December 21, 2013, 02:37:29 PM
I do not think the lemonade analogy is very apt.

Anyway, I took a 15 year hiatus then it only took about 5 extract/steeping batches and I was batch sparging ala Dennybrew. But now I do whatever is convenient at the moment. One batch may be extract and the next AG. I save about 5 hours by doing an extract batch and there are other little tricks to make the session easier.

My advice to beginners flush with their successes is to learn more about the fundamentals such as temp control during fermentation than to rush into the all-grain process. But I know they will do it anyway thinking that the transition will improve their beer dramatically.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: reverseapachemaster on December 21, 2013, 04:59:11 PM
I think I brewed 4-5 extract batches before moving over to all grain. I wasn't opposed to extract brewing but I felt like I wasn't getting as hands on with the process as I could be.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: erockrph on December 21, 2013, 05:34:45 PM
I still brew several extract batches every year, even though I consider myself an all-grain brewer. It's a great way to brew a quick trial batch to try out new ingredients. Extract is also nice if you find yourself with a short amount of unexpected free time and want to squeeze in an impromptu brew. Or maybe squeeze in a quick second brew at the end of a brewday.

I always keep some light DME and dried yeast on hand for something spur-of-the-moment.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: fistfullofhops on December 22, 2013, 01:24:21 AM
I switched to all grain after 3-5 extract batches.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: Herminator on December 22, 2013, 01:59:22 AM
I made the jump after 3 extract batches.  I think there is lot to learn but one only really does that by making the move.  Do what is right for you and your wallet. 

Cheers!
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: klickitat jim on December 22, 2013, 02:10:39 AM
In my opinion, I jumped to all grain too soon. Meaning I still had some work to do in the fermentation and understanding my water. But AG is more fun, I think. I haven't brewed with LME/DME since, but I don't have a problem with it.

Looking back, I should have tooled up and learned yeast handling, full boils, hop additions,rapid chilling, fermentor temp control, and water before going to AG. Dialing in mash temps doesn't make up for being sloppy at the rest of it.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: ajbrenneis on December 22, 2013, 05:35:54 AM
I brewed extract for about 6 years before I made the jump to all grain, but I did it right. Waited until I had the space and the money to put together my ideal all grain setup. Still brew extract once in a while if I am looking to save time. I have made some great beer and some not so great beer using both set ups. Love it either way!
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: punatic on December 22, 2013, 11:24:38 AM
1989.  I brewed three extract batches and figured out that part of it.  Batch four was all grain.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: kgs on December 22, 2013, 02:47:07 PM
I did three or four extract kit batches, then did partial-mash for a while until I realized it wasn't shortening the process and was adding calculation overhead. The switch away from kits was also a switch from 5-gallon batches to batches in the 2.5 - 4 gallon range. My plan for this coming year is to do several small extract batches. I may even build a brewing calendar around that plan.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: HoosierBrew on December 22, 2013, 03:14:36 PM
1992-ish.  I brewed a few extract batches and then decided to try partial mashing before I realized it would be just as time consuming as all-grain (and also seemed kind of half ass). So I scrapped that idea, bought a round Gott and started fly sparging. But after finding Denny's cheap'n'easy site, I appreciated the simplicity of batch sparging and bought the required blue 70 qt Extreme. Like I posted before, in the old days the brewing literature almost tried to discourage people from going all grain, but I tried it and wondered what all the fuss was about.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: majorvices on December 22, 2013, 04:06:34 PM
I went to all grain after about 3 extract batches. Then I read Charile P's book "TCJoHB" and made a zap pap and never looked back.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: 69franx on December 22, 2013, 06:15:31 PM
I just made the switch(after 6 months). I had done 5 extract with grain batches. I read a ton along the way, and before I even made my first batch. I took a beginner's course at the LHBS, and am registered for their upcoming advanced all grain class. I learned a ton at the first class, and asked a lot of questions. Many thanks to Rob W. for his class. i can only hope he is teaching the all grain one as well. Each of the 5 extract batches got better as i learned, and got temp control under my belt. Made a tun with Denny's cheap and easy method and enjoyed my brew day. That was just last Sunday, so I have not tasted my first all grain batch yet. i was very happy with each step, hittin the numbers I expected and had great efficiency. this first batch is the AG version of my third extract batch, and I hope to find some improvements in quality as I have improved my process and knowledge base. Fingers crossed and RDWHAHB!
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: philm63 on December 24, 2013, 02:41:54 PM
2 Extract batches about a year and a half ago (with steeping grains), then started exploring the steeping process and wound up doing a partial-mash for batch #3, then a couple more PM batches and I got a cooler and tried AG and never looked back.

I have to admit; partial-mash has simplicity over my present all-grain process, but I'm enjoying having seemingly total control over every aspect of the brewing process and that's what I get out of AG.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: yugamrap on December 24, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
I switched to all grain after three extract batches.  I started with a couple extract kits, then did an extract with steeping batch recipe of my own.  All the while, I was reading info from several online forums and figured all grain wasn't a drastic step (I was doing full boils right from the start on a turkey fryer burner, and had an immersion chiller) so I made the switch and haven't looked back since.  I've done a few extract batches since then - mostly small-batch experiments like a gluten-free beer for a friend's wife.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: sparkleberry on December 28, 2013, 05:17:02 AM
i did extract for three years before i started 3 gallon biab batches. i've been doing full mash all grain batches over the last 8-9 months. sometimes i wish i was still doing extract for the ease of a simple brew day.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: bboy9000 on December 28, 2013, 07:21:24 AM
I switched after about six months or 15 batches. I just want to make sure I had my cleaning and sanitizing procedures down along with fermentation. Not that I had to but in my mind I wanted to deal with as few of variables at once so if something went wrong in my beers there weren't  as many variables to examine as the cause of the flaw. I have some friends that went directly and all grain and make good beer.


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Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: dave.kline on December 30, 2013, 05:07:52 AM
I did two partial boil extract batches, one full boil extract batch, and then made the jump to all grain.
Title: Re: When did you switch to all grain?
Post by: morticaixavier on December 30, 2013, 04:27:53 PM
I did extract with grain for about three years. Probably a total of 10 batches. I started to get a little bore with the process and decided to see how simply I could make the switch. I used a modified BIAB system made from a large nylon grain bag in my bottling bucket with a spigot. I wrapped the whole thing in several comforters (Just one of the many reasons My wife is amazing is that she was okay with me using all of our comforters for this purpose). It actually worked out quite well. I stuck with that method for 3 batches. The third batch was a strong beer and It just maxed out the bucket. Some friends asked me to brew for their wedding reception so I upgraded to the cooler mash tun then. still boiled on my stove though.

The first brew with the cooler I filled it with water and grain on the floor of my kitchen, let it mash for the requisite 60 minutes then realized that in order to drain the resulting wort I had to lift a 72 quart cooler with 12 lbs of grain and 40 quarts of hot water from the ground to the counter. ooof.