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Title: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: Jo Diesel on May 23, 2013, 06:10:25 PM
So here is my system. Paid $40 for the hot water tun, $18 for fittings, Mash tun was $12 on sale, $20 fittings,
$109 for 25 gal boil kettle at Samsclub.com. All burners are turkey frier, one I had and cant remember how much paid for second. Steel table is just my welding table that I already had. Chiller is home made from copper tubing I bought on clearance. The most expensive thing I bought was my Barley Crusher $114.50 Then found a gear reduction motor at surplus for $15 and spent $18 on drive gears and sprockets. Yesterday I scored 3 18 gal food grade open top barrels for $20 ea.
What do you think for less than $500 total.  Have more than that into cabinets and my sink(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/JoDiesel/3C729792-BF00-44F7-AE8E-73F245238F05-2807-0000050A54104D88.jpg) (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/JoDiesel/media/3C729792-BF00-44F7-AE8E-73F245238F05-2807-0000050A54104D88.jpg.html)(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/JoDiesel/IMAG0006.jpg) (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/JoDiesel/media/IMAG0006.jpg.html)(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/JoDiesel/null_zps5a00dc8c.jpg) (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/JoDiesel/media/null_zps5a00dc8c.jpg.html)(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/JoDiesel/null_zps7f445123.jpg) (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/JoDiesel/media/null_zps7f445123.jpg.html)(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab95/JoDiesel/null_zps0ca93fd9.jpg) (http://s853.photobucket.com/user/JoDiesel/media/null_zps0ca93fd9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: gsandel on May 23, 2013, 06:28:02 PM
The garage space alone (with floor drains and storage for everything) is to die for.

Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: hopfenundmalz on May 23, 2013, 06:30:19 PM
It doesn't look cheap, you just decided what to spend the money on. Good set up.


I see a stainless 3 tub sink, stone shelf, a water bib so you can clean and sprays up, and the all important mop. From the posters it looks like you are from MI.
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: weithman5 on May 23, 2013, 06:36:24 PM
The garage space alone (with floor drains and storage for everything) is to die for.
+1
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: Slowbrew on May 23, 2013, 06:37:27 PM
I like the hopper extension on the barely crusher.   ;D  Every time I brew I wonder what a good way to extend it is.

Paul
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: bwana on May 23, 2013, 06:57:45 PM
Nice! Very nice!
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 23, 2013, 07:02:20 PM
I think you got a very good deal.  Nice setup!
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: thebigbaker on May 23, 2013, 07:17:47 PM
The garage space alone (with floor drains and storage for everything) is to die for.

+1!  I would love to have that much garage space and a drain.  Great set up.
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: firedog23 on May 23, 2013, 07:30:44 PM
Roll on with your bad self. If you make good beer then screw it!
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: Jo Diesel on May 23, 2013, 07:39:28 PM
It doesn't look cheap, you just decided what to spend the money on. Good set up.


I see a stainless 3 tub sink, stone shelf, a water bib so you can clean and sprays up, and the all important mop. From the posters it looks like you are from MI.
St. Johns MI Dead center. The company I work for American Rentals does all the tents and Ameri-Cans for all the Mi Brewers Guild Beer Fests so I get VIP passes.
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: hopfenundmalz on May 23, 2013, 08:23:31 PM
It doesn't look cheap, you just decided what to spend the money on. Good set up.


I see a stainless 3 tub sink, stone shelf, a water bib so you can clean and sprays up, and the all important mop. From the posters it looks like you are from MI.
St. Johns MI Dead center. The company I work for American Rentals does all the tents and Ameri-Cans for all the Mi Brewers Guild Beer Fests so I get VIP passes.
Good job perk. I have to all but the UP fest. If a local place makes the trip, I have said I am in to pour for them. Love the UP.
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: Jo Diesel on May 23, 2013, 09:32:37 PM
Join the MI Brewers Guild. It is for the pro brewers but there are private members only meetings and VIP passes to the Brew Fests and a lot of information for us not so PROS! A Volunteer could get free entry to the Brew Fests. 
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: euge on May 23, 2013, 10:09:17 PM
I'm all for simplicity and low cost at the homebrew level! Great job!
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: hopfenundmalz on May 23, 2013, 10:54:47 PM
Join the MI Brewers Guild. It is for the pro brewers but there are private members only meetings and VIP passes to the Brew Fests and a lot of information for us not so PROS! A Volunteer could get free entry to the Brew Fests.
Ihave poured for several locals at the other 3 fests. You get free admission for you work, and have off shift time. That is how they get volunteers.
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: troybinso on May 24, 2013, 04:01:42 AM
Can you give details about your motorized grain mill? I am tired of using a drill. What parts did you get?
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: Jo Diesel on May 24, 2013, 12:47:28 PM
It is a Dayton gear reduction 46 rpm and I doubled its speed with chain sprockets. Slow speed makes no dust and crushes perfectly.  The chain and sprockets came from McMaster Carr. At that torque I knew the belt drive would have to be to big and I wanted it to fit into my cabinet.
I bought this at MI State University Surplus store for $15 and when I got back looked it up in Grainger catalog and it retails for $450 so I would say I got A SCREAMING DEAL!! Wired the plug and switch myself.
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: gmac on May 24, 2013, 01:42:54 PM
I've thought and thought and I can't figure it out.
How does the roto-tiller fit into the process?
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: Jimmy K on May 24, 2013, 01:51:02 PM
I've thought and thought and I can't figure it out.
How does the roto-tiller fit into the process?

Mash mixer
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: guido on May 24, 2013, 01:55:58 PM
The stainless steel sink has me highly aroused.  Looks like something from an old photographic darkroom.
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: gmac on May 24, 2013, 01:59:20 PM
The stainless steel sink has me highly aroused.  Looks like something from an old photographic darkroom.

If that one gets you "aroused", you should see mine. 
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: guido on May 24, 2013, 02:26:57 PM
The stainless steel sink has me highly aroused.  Looks like something from an old photographic darkroom.

If that one gets you "aroused", you should see mine.

Tease!
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: Rhoobarb on May 26, 2013, 02:01:35 AM
Love it! Great set up and even greater garage.
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: Jo Diesel on May 30, 2013, 04:53:34 PM
The motor I used is a Dayton 6K329 at WW Grainger. It sells for $583 but I paid $15 at surplus.  I think you could use this one from the Surplus Center http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=5-1099&catname=electric. But I am sure it does not have the torque that the one I bought has.
The sprockets and chain are from McMaster Carr 6264K1 stainless #25 chain and 2737T4 sprocket on mill and 2737T11 on the motor for around 100 RPM
Or check flea bay here is a 12V That might work http://www.ebay.com/itm/KWIKEE-1820111-SLIDE-OUT-MOTOR-SLIDEROOM-REDUCTION-GEAR-WINNEBAGO-JAYCO-DUTCHMEN-/121049199597?pt=Motors_RV_Trailer_Camper_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c2f1833ed&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: Jo Diesel on June 07, 2013, 12:10:11 PM
I've thought and thought and I can't figure it out.
How does the roto-tiller fit into the process?
Not a roto-tiller. It is a Gravely Brush hog. Just happened to be there. I do use my tiller to work the spent grains into my garden though!
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: dnicholson on September 07, 2013, 01:58:46 AM
If you are on a budget and are related to Red Green or McGuiver, a great, most times free mash/sparge water heater are used 40 gal electric hot water heaters - cut them in half and voila - a great heater (have to bend the element down near the bottom) with adjustable thermostat with the bottom half, chop the element off, flip the top upside down with a collapsible salad drainer for false bottom and you have ur sparge vessel. They are glass lined so no contact with steel tank. Have not tried it but am sure bottom would make a great boil pot as well as convex shape in bottom and thusly way more heating surface area as well as plain steel is much more heat conductive than stainless.
Title: Re: I'M CHEAP, NO PUMPS, ALL GRAVITY 15 GAL
Post by: boonedog on November 04, 2013, 06:28:34 PM
I have the exact same mash tun. What kind of efficiency are you getting? I am averaging in the low 60's batch sparging. I think I am losing wort left over in the bottom.