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Title: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: boulderbrewer on March 08, 2010, 02:54:07 AM
I have about 8 oxygen tanks that I need to get rid of. How do you dipose of your tanks, I guess I need to be more responsible for my enviroment and go with the big green tank. What is the way you dipose of those little red buggers?
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: blatz on March 08, 2010, 02:57:49 AM
Transfer station at the Waste Department accepts them, propane tanks, etc. for recycling.  YMMV.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on March 08, 2010, 03:41:13 AM
I guess I need to be more responsible for my enviroment and go with the big green tank.
Yeah, the other day I was walking in a hospital.
There was an elderly gentleman that was pushing green oxygen talk.
Guess what cross my mind?
"I could use it. I wonder if he would miss it"

Sorry carry on.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: brewboy on March 08, 2010, 04:10:32 AM
Build a big fire and throw them in. It's great fun.   

Not really, propane tanks are better.   ;D

Seriously, it's good that you're thinking responsibly.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: ndcube on March 08, 2010, 12:47:49 PM
I have 2 empty ones that I haven't gotten rid of yet.  Not sure of the proper way either.

This may not be the greenest way but as far as safety is concerned... If they're empty can't you just toss 'em in the trash?
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: MrNate on March 08, 2010, 02:43:20 PM
I have 2 empty ones that I haven't gotten rid of yet.  Not sure of the proper way either.

This may not be the greenest way but as far as safety is concerned... If they're empty can't you just toss 'em in the trash?

Heathen!

That's what I do, ever since my wife took a couple to the recycling station. According to her, she was told "Those are oxygen tanks." Not, "We don't accept oxygen tanks," mind you. Apparently, they thought she was confused by the bright red and the word "Oxygen" printed on the bottle. I love New Jersey.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: blatz on March 08, 2010, 02:59:26 PM
Like I said, call up your waste department - mine accepts them for recycling, but you have to bring them to a separate dropoff point - they will not take them in the blue bin.  Luckily for me, the dropoff here is 3mi away and on the way to my office.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: zee on March 08, 2010, 03:56:37 PM
as many have said here, local waste management may take them, many for a fee. its sad really, since that extra work just encourages people to throw them in the trash. oxygen tanks are not a fire hazard. oxygen is not flammable, it only helps flammable things burn hotter. [it supports combustion] the only worry you have is the pressure in the vessel. once you've relieved the pressure the canister is pretty much treated as scrap metal. many people weld them together to make cannons. so see if your local dump will take them as scrap metal before throwing them away.

for eco friendlyness, you can go to your local gas distributer [where many of us get our co2 and beer gas] and for a small fee, get a refillable o2 tank and regulator. the beauty here is that a. they hold way more. i think when i did the calculation i figured out that the very first time you replace a 20# o2 tank you've made your money back, though it can take years to get through it all. but the best part is that you can refill it rather than tossing it and replacing.

its also half of an oxy acetylene torch set up, so if you've got a need for one of those, you'll need all this stuff anyway.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: dirtyjerzey on March 09, 2010, 01:15:45 PM
Throw them up on criagslist....some scrap collector or junkyard artist might take them (might even give you a couple $'s)
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: bo_gator on March 09, 2010, 11:33:50 PM
In just bury them in the neighbor's yard at night ;D
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: zee on March 09, 2010, 11:57:10 PM
yeah. thanks for that. when i bought my house i took no less than 20 truckloads of trash off the property to clean it up. it still isn't done yet.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: capozzoli on March 10, 2010, 04:12:37 AM
Fill them with nitris oxide. Then throw them in a back pack.

This way you can walk around with a mask to take hits from. ....really takes the edge off of a stressful day.

Mommy...Mommy...MOMMY.

 
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: 1vertical on March 12, 2010, 06:10:27 AM
Gawsh
Wiktionary says it simply

to dispose (third-person singular simple present disposes, present participle disposing, simple past and past participle disposed)

(intransitive) To eliminate or to get rid of something.
I dispose of my trash in the garbage can.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: Scott on September 01, 2018, 05:26:53 PM
I'm in the Portland Oregon area and Far West Recycle said that if I empty them and drill a hole then they will take them.  That includes my green camping propane cylinders as well.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: jjpeanasky on September 02, 2018, 11:03:01 AM
I'm in the Portland Oregon area and Far West Recycle said that if I empty them and drill a hole then they will take them.  That includes my green camping propane cylinders as well.

Wow, you gotta drill a hole in it too? That's a lot of work on the citizen just to try to be environmentally conscious.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: BrewBama on September 02, 2018, 11:59:40 AM
I recommend using then for target practice to drill the holes. I wonder what the OP did 8 yrs ago.


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Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: majorvices on September 02, 2018, 03:02:28 PM
I recommend using then for target practice to drill the holes. I wonder what the OP did 8 yrs ago.


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Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: James K on September 02, 2018, 03:11:54 PM
Like everything I throw away I put those cans in the trash can, trash can into the dumpster, and I let Mother Nature dispose of it for me.
I also don’t recycle because I’m a bad human.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: Robert on September 02, 2018, 05:09:27 PM
I recommend using then for target practice to drill the holes.

Then the recycle center won't take it, because lead contamination, I suppose...


Like everything I throw away I put those cans in the trash can, trash can into the dumpster, and I let Mother Nature dispose of it for me.
I also don’t recycle because I’m a bad human.

I've been frustrated for years, the rules around here basically say you can't put anything anywhere, and every agency says it's somebody else's problem. Even if the hazardous household materials center would take them, they're only open like 5 hours a week 5 months of the year. So yeah, into the trash.  They're empty, not going to blow up, and I too am a bad human I suppose.  (I try.  But the people tasked with managing our trash and recycle streams pretty well ensure everything just goes to the landfill.)  End of rant.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: BrewBama on September 02, 2018, 06:16:45 PM

I've been frustrated for years, the rules around here basically say you can't put anything anywhere, and every agency says it's somebody else's problem. Even if the hazardous household materials center would take them, they're only open like 5 hours a week 5 months of the year. So yeah, into the trash.  They're empty, not going to blow up, and I too am a bad human I suppose.  (I try.  But the people tasked with managing our trash and recycle streams pretty well ensure everything just goes to the landfill.)  End of rant.

....don’t get me started.  I can’t even get them to run the recycling truck to pick up my crap on the schedule they post.


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Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: jeffy on September 02, 2018, 06:31:47 PM

I've been frustrated for years, the rules around here basically say you can't put anything anywhere, and every agency says it's somebody else's problem. Even if the hazardous household materials center would take them, they're only open like 5 hours a week 5 months of the year. So yeah, into the trash.  They're empty, not going to blow up, and I too am a bad human I suppose.  (I try.  But the people tasked with managing our trash and recycle streams pretty well ensure everything just goes to the landfill.)  End of rant.

....don’t get me started.  I can’t even get them to run the recycling truck to pick up my crap on the schedule they post.


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I try to be good.  The city picks up plastic, paper, cardboard and stuff.  I take my excess plastic bags back to Publix.  I collect all the aluminum cans and turn them in for money.  What am I supposed to do with old batteries?
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: Slowbrew on September 03, 2018, 01:21:24 PM

I've been frustrated for years, the rules around here basically say you can't put anything anywhere, and every agency says it's somebody else's problem. Even if the hazardous household materials center would take them, they're only open like 5 hours a week 5 months of the year. So yeah, into the trash.  They're empty, not going to blow up, and I too am a bad human I suppose.  (I try.  But the people tasked with managing our trash and recycle streams pretty well ensure everything just goes to the landfill.)  End of rant.

....don’t get me started.  I can’t even get them to run the recycling truck to pick up my crap on the schedule they post.


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I try to be good.  The city picks up plastic, paper, cardboard and stuff.  I take my excess plastic bags back to Publix.  I collect all the aluminum cans and turn them in for money.  What am I supposed to do with old batteries?

Depends on the battery.

Alkaline: AA, AAA, watch battery and the like are not recyclable.  The process is too expensive to be profitable.  Even in the Third World.  All you can do is throw these away.

LI-ION/NIMH/NiCAD: Can usually be dropped off at places like Lowes, HomeDepot, Menard, Interstate Battery, etc.

Paul
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: James K on September 04, 2018, 12:20:27 AM

I've been frustrated for years, the rules around here basically say you can't put anything anywhere, and every agency says it's somebody else's problem. Even if the hazardous household materials center would take them, they're only open like 5 hours a week 5 months of the year. So yeah, into the trash.  They're empty, not going to blow up, and I too am a bad human I suppose.  (I try.  But the people tasked with managing our trash and recycle streams pretty well ensure everything just goes to the landfill.)  End of rant.

....don’t get me started.  I can’t even get them to run the recycling truck to pick up my crap on the schedule they post.


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I try to be good.  The city picks up plastic, paper, cardboard and stuff.  I take my excess plastic bags back to Publix.  I collect all the aluminum cans and turn them in for money.  What am I supposed to do with old batteries?
They don’t even recycle glass here which is so moronic I just gave up on trying to sort everything. Like glass breaks down to what, sand? And I can’t recycle it, which tons of food products come in glass. And now the city is like. Only plastic with a number 3 on the bottom of it. Ain’t no one got time for that!
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: ethinson on September 04, 2018, 11:57:01 AM
I'm in the Portland Oregon area and Far West Recycle said that if I empty them and drill a hole then they will take them.  That includes my green camping propane cylinders as well.

I had heard that if you drilled the hole in them they could go into curbside, but who wants to go to that trouble? I feel like they would still reject it.  (I understand the whole putting them in the crusher trucks and fearing they explode). 

I found a hazardous waste place to take them too but you have to pay a fee.  I've still got two or three of them laying around waiting until it seems worth it to take a pile of them and pay the fee. 

Here in Oregon we used to recycle EVERYTHING and now recently it's changed to only paper, and plastics numbers 2 and 5... turns out we weren't recycling any of it at all, just sending it all to China and now China doesn't want it.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: MDixon on September 04, 2018, 01:44:54 PM



LI-ION/NIMH/NiCAD: Can usually be dropped off at places like Lowes, HomeDepot, Menard, Interstate Battery, etc.

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Unfortunately it is not quite that simple. My local HD does not accept batteries, but Lowes does accept them. I have been driving around with two laptop batteries in my vehicle for a long time because I have not had a reason to go to Lowes.

We try to recycle everything we can. Often I will pull items out of the trash my wife has discarded and put them in the recycling. This weekend our multi-function printer died. I could not determine a place which would take it for recycling so it went in the can. Still feel bad about it, but there is a limit to how far one can go with recycling.

With China refusing much of our recycling those of us in the US will soon be asked to discard many things in the garbage.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: ynotbrusum on September 04, 2018, 04:47:38 PM
Some areas are going to a specialty recycling for electronics.  You have to pay to recycle certain electronics in my county (Northern Illinois) and it is in the neighborhood of $35 for a television and much less for computers and batteries.  The local garbage companies will not accept these items, if found in your trash or general recycling bin (which is meant for aluminum, glass and paper).  If found, they simply set it out on your driveway.  My wife saves up packing materials (like the foam "peanuts") and brings them in bulk to a local facility that re-uses them in some manner (either as used packing or in some other re-purposing product).  Trying to be as green as possible.  Metal scrappers are busy in our area and would take an empty O2 or propane tank in a heart beat.

I guess it varies by locale quite a bit.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: jeffy on September 04, 2018, 04:58:46 PM
About once a year our city sanitation department has an amnesty day.  I take old TV's, fluorescent bulbs and stuff on that day, but it is usually a long wait in line.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: ynotbrusum on September 04, 2018, 05:06:40 PM
About once a year our city sanitation department has an amnesty day.  I take old TV's, fluorescent bulbs and stuff on that day, but it is usually a long wait in line.

My county has that for paints and solvents - free, but only quarterly.  Supposedly the paints have to be "cat-littered' or fully dried out, but I don't think they even open the containers considering how fast they move the line.  A lot of volunteers turn out to help.  Good Doobies for doing that.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: Wilbur on September 05, 2018, 12:28:15 AM
Some areas are going to a specialty recycling for electronics.  You have to pay to recycle certain electronics in my county (Northern Illinois) and it is in the neighborhood of $35 for a television and much less for computers and batteries.  The local garbage companies will not accept these items, if found in your trash or general recycling bin (which is meant for aluminum, glass and paper).  If found, they simply set it out on your driveway.  My wife saves up packing materials (like the foam "peanuts") and brings them in bulk to a local facility that re-uses them in some manner (either as used packing or in some other re-purposing product).  Trying to be as green as possible.  Metal scrappers are busy in our area and would take an empty O2 or propane tank in a heart beat.

I guess it varies by locale quite a bit.

Kind of the cost we incur for cheap electronics and a consumer lifestyle in my mind. Maybe something we should frontload into the cost of these things. Part of the shame is if things don't get recycled well here they get crushed and burned for lithium, copper, etc.

I'd recommend looking into composting, either at home or there may be a farmer/service you can drop stuff off at. An informal survey in Central IL found over half of homebrewers threw out their spent grain. That's for an area where most own houses, and have space to add a small compost bin. I imagine it's much worse in cities.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: Robert on September 05, 2018, 12:45:03 AM
Used to compost my grains and hop cones when I still had the old family property in the country.  Grew hops there, and mulched them with the compost.  Thought that was poetic.  Since I had to sell that property, and I just live in a little place in the city, I have to put that stuff in the trash too.  My only other option is to dry some of the grain and make Treberbrot, but how much can I eat?!  I do feel bad throwing it out.
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: Slowbrew on September 05, 2018, 11:05:45 AM
Used to compost my grains and hop cones when I still had the old family property in the country.  Grew hops there, and mulched them with the compost.  Thought that was poetic.  Since I had to sell that property, and I just live in a little place in the city, I have to put that stuff in the trash too.  My only other option is to dry some of the grain and make Treberbrot, but how much can I eat?!  I do feel bad throwing it out.

I spread my spent grains and hops on my yard.  At the end of my brew day I put all the grains and hops in a bucket and mix them so the hops aren't in clumps.  Then I just take my big spoon and broadcast them across the grass.  As long as they don't up in piles there's no odor issues.

Not quite compost but not trash either.

Paul
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: coolman26 on September 05, 2018, 11:01:51 PM
I cut them in half and add to the scrap pile.
I recycle everything I possibly can. I will add that I heard that only 15% actually is recycled. I’m not sure how accurate that statement is. It came from the guy at the recycle mobile unit.


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Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: Robert on September 05, 2018, 11:30:42 PM
I cut them in half and add to the scrap pile.
I recycle everything I possibly can. I will add that I heard that only 15% actually is recycled. I’m not sure how accurate that statement is. It came from the guy at the recycle mobile unit.


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That's the ticket!  The commercial scrapyard is probably your best bet.  Then you know it will actually get recycled, and no jumping through hoops.  In fact, if I put anything metal on the curb when I put the trash out, it's usually gone in half an hour.  Scrappers follow the weekly trash schedule and make the neighborhood rounds loading up their pickup trucks, providing a convenient service the authorities fail miseably at! 
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: klickitat jim on September 05, 2018, 11:57:47 PM
Duct tape them all together and leave them in front of the post office. Give the FBI something to do
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: Robert on September 06, 2018, 12:05:11 AM
Duct tape them all together and leave them in front of the post office. Give the FBI something to do
😂
Title: Re: How to dipose of the red oxygen tanks?
Post by: James K on September 06, 2018, 04:58:32 AM
Used to compost my grains and hop cones when I still had the old family property in the country.  Grew hops there, and mulched them with the compost.  Thought that was poetic.  Since I had to sell that property, and I just live in a little place in the city, I have to put that stuff in the trash too.  My only other option is to dry some of the grain and make Treberbrot, but how much can I eat?!  I do feel bad throwing it out.

I spread my spent grains and hops on my yard.  At the end of my brew day I put all the grains and hops in a bucket and mix them so the hops aren't in clumps.  Then I just take my big spoon and broadcast them across the grass.  As long as they don't up in piles there's no odor issues.

Not quite compost but not trash either.

Paul

I used to compost that stuff until my compost turned into a bunch of grain, not as many hops. I also tried making dog treats but I only used like two cups of grain which is maybe a half pound of spent grain.

I’ve been meaning to try and trade eggs from my neighbor who has chickens.