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Title: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: davidgzach on July 01, 2013, 01:39:32 PM
Man, that was a lot of beer drinking.  I'm still not 100% but getting there. 

Can't ever miss that event again.  Tons of fun and good to meet Forum members and make new friends. 

See you next year!

Dave
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: dbarber on July 01, 2013, 01:48:29 PM
Still drying out.  Glad I took Monday off.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: davidgzach on July 01, 2013, 01:53:55 PM
Still drying out.  Glad I took Monday off.

Yea, me too!  Hey, CONGRATS on Ninkasi!  That's freakin awesome.....

Dave
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: brewmichigan on July 01, 2013, 01:55:07 PM
Yeah, congrats! I'm more tired than anything. Had to go back to work to rest up  :D
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: guido on July 01, 2013, 02:06:43 PM
Had a great conference, but definitely dazed and confused.  The size of everything was mind-boggling.
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Post by: garc_mall on July 01, 2013, 02:10:10 PM
Just got home at about 2am PST finally. Up and getting ready for work now. I thought I was going to get a couple day break from beer, but tonight is BJCP class, and tomorrow is Club meeting...  :o
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: davidgzach on July 01, 2013, 02:12:43 PM
Just got home at about 2am PST finally. Up and getting ready for work now. I thought I was going to get a couple day break from beer, but tonight is BJCP class, and tomorrow is Club meeting...  :o

Damn Marcus!  That's crazy! 

Good hanging with you and see you next year.

Dave
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: majorvices on July 01, 2013, 02:13:02 PM
No matter how many times I washed my hands I still picked up a cold! Dangit!!!
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: davidgzach on July 01, 2013, 02:15:15 PM
No matter how many times I washed my hands I still picked up a cold! Dangit!!!

Me too....  Thanks again for the shirt!

Dave
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: brewmichigan on July 01, 2013, 02:22:08 PM
No matter how many times I washed my hands I still picked up a cold! Dangit!!!

Me too....  Thanks again for the shirt!

Dave

I saw a Yellowhammer shirt at the John Mallet talk about malts, was that you or Keith? Dude try to volunteer to hand out beer. He was denied cause they knew he was going to take a pitcher and run.  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: SecondRow_Sean on July 01, 2013, 02:34:01 PM
Gotta say, being from the northeast, I never really gave much thought to Philadelphia being a "real city". After this past weekend, I humbly admit I was completely wrong. Good show, Philly!

Good thing I'm only working from home this week...
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: davidgzach on July 01, 2013, 02:35:31 PM
No matter how many times I washed my hands I still picked up a cold! Dangit!!!

Me too....  Thanks again for the shirt!

Dave

I saw a Yellowhammer shirt at the John Mallet talk about malts, was that you or Keith? Dude try to volunteer to hand out beer. He was denied cause they knew he was going to take a pitcher and run.  ;)

Wasn't me.  Keith?
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: udubdawg on July 01, 2013, 02:40:20 PM
had mostly lost my voice by the end of Pro Night.  Then I had Moonlight's habanero mead which was tasty but pretty much the last thing my throat needed.  After the typical airport nonsense I finally made it home last night.  Sore, exhausted, but smiling.

Now...where to display the shiny thing?   ;)

cheers--
--Michael
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: Pi on July 01, 2013, 02:41:52 PM
Hey, I just found out I took Gold in style 23!! Anyone know how to watch the podcast?
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: majorvices on July 01, 2013, 02:46:19 PM
No matter how many times I washed my hands I still picked up a cold! Dangit!!!

Me too....  Thanks again for the shirt!

Dave

I saw a Yellowhammer shirt at the John Mallet talk about malts, was that you or Keith? Dude try to volunteer to hand out beer. He was denied cause they knew he was going to take a pitcher and run.  ;)

I don't think I wore a shirt up there but have given several away last year and this year to forum members, plus a couple guys from Huntsville came and wore their shirts.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: Jimmy K on July 01, 2013, 02:50:16 PM
had mostly lost my voice by the end of Pro Night.  Then I had Moonlight's habanero mead which was tasty but pretty much the last thing my throat needed.  After the typical airport nonsense I finally made it home last night.  Sore, exhausted, but smiling.
I think I had a noise hangover from Pro-Brewers Night. My friend had a decibel app that he said was pretty accurate compared to a real one he has at work. It registered 102.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: davidgzach on July 01, 2013, 02:53:44 PM
had mostly lost my voice by the end of Pro Night.  Then I had Moonlight's habanero mead which was tasty but pretty much the last thing my throat needed.  After the typical airport nonsense I finally made it home last night.  Sore, exhausted, but smiling.
I think I had a noise hangover from Pro-Brewers Night. My friend had a decibel app that he said was pretty accurate compared to a real one he has at work. It registered 102.

Damn.  Good meeting you Jimmy!

Dave
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: brewmichigan on July 01, 2013, 02:59:21 PM
had mostly lost my voice by the end of Pro Night.  Then I had Moonlight's habanero mead which was tasty but pretty much the last thing my throat needed.  After the typical airport nonsense I finally made it home last night.  Sore, exhausted, but smiling.
I think I had a noise hangover from Pro-Brewers Night. My friend had a decibel app that he said was pretty accurate compared to a real one he has at work. It registered 102.

It was crazy loud. I woke up with a sore throat and no voice for most of the day.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 01, 2013, 03:53:19 PM
had mostly lost my voice by the end of Pro Night.  Then I had Moonlight's habanero mead which was tasty but pretty much the last thing my throat needed.  After the typical airport nonsense I finally made it home last night.  Sore, exhausted, but smiling.
I think I had a noise hangover from Pro-Brewers Night. My friend had a decibel app that he said was pretty accurate compared to a real one he has at work. It registered 102.
yeah, it was loud. At the back of the hall, on the way to take a leak, it was like a jet engine, or Lava Falls rapid in the Grand Canyon.

Still did not meet all of you guys. Next year.

Many commented on how great Philly was as a host city. GR should be a good host too, but is much smaller. Maybe not as many good beer bars, but more breweries in walking distance.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: tygo on July 01, 2013, 04:01:06 PM
I'm feeling relatively normal today.  Great time up there but I wish I would have gotten to the forum meet up.  Went to Mcgillin's Olde Ale house with my club instead for dinner.

Hopefully I'll be able to make it to Grand Rapids next year. 
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: redbeerman on July 01, 2013, 04:02:10 PM
I think my voice was an octave lower for a couple of days.  It was great meeting so many folks from the forum there.  Took it easy yesterday afternoon after getting home.  My wife and daughter had picked up a bunch of goodies from the Italian market on Saturday, so I snacked on that stuff all afternoon.  I seem to be pretty well recovered today.  I hope I can make it next year!
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: saintpierre on July 01, 2013, 04:03:07 PM
yeah, it was loud. At the back of the hall, on the way to take a leak, it was like a jet engine, or Lava Falls rapid in the Grand Canyon.
Exactly! Insanely loud white noise. 

Such an amazing event.  Being my first NHC it is definitely in my top 2 of beer events attended. 

I didn't get a chance to meet everyone either, but those I did get a chance too it was a pleasure.  Hopefully I'll meet the rest of you next year.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: tygo on July 01, 2013, 04:22:11 PM
If anyone still has any of the RGB Pilsner from the conference lying around you might want to get it out of the house:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sJrrkk7JBVQ/UdGrfxV1cEI/AAAAAAAAAS4/0wlLg-79_Vo/s400/photo.JPG)

I drank mine at the conference but a couple of club members had theirs explode on the way home.  The cans are way overcarbed.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: stlaleman on July 01, 2013, 04:25:56 PM
Had mine pop wide open on the way home. Was able to smell pilsner all the way!
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: garc_mall on July 01, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
If anyone still has any of the RGB Pilsner from the conference lying around you might want to get it out of the house:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sJrrkk7JBVQ/UdGrfxV1cEI/AAAAAAAAAS4/0wlLg-79_Vo/s400/photo.JPG)

I drank mine at the conference but a couple of club members had theirs explode on the way home.  The cans are way overcarbed.

We drank one right before the grand banquet. It was WAY overcarbed, and extremely yeasty. The other can was left at the after-party.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: jeffy on July 01, 2013, 04:50:51 PM
Hey, I just found out I took Gold in style 23!! Anyone know how to watch the podcast?
Was that your goze?  I judged the specialty category and really liked it.  I talked to one of the best of show judges, Phil Farrell, to see how far it went in bos, but evidently Gordon Strong, who is doing research on the style, had "some problems" with it.  I wish I knew what kind of problems.  Maybe you could email him and ask.
Good idea on rubber-banding the guide lines to the bottles.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: drjones on July 01, 2013, 05:00:35 PM
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If anyone still has any of the RGB Pilsner from the conference lying around you might want to get it out of the house:
I heard rumors of exploding cans Friday AM at the registration table.  Put mine in the car.  When I checked in on it just before the banquet it looked like the one pictured.  Very gently removed it, but apparently the walk toward the trash bin in the parking garage was too much - damn thing exploded in my hand.  Luckily just the top went, and luckily it sprayed (mostly) away from me.  Sounded like a bomb, but aside from a slight bruise I was unscathed.  Hope no one got hurt from one of those!  I suspect they rushed to can these for the event before they had fermented out.  Shouldn't you be filtering out the yeast if you are canning?
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: jeffy on July 01, 2013, 05:01:34 PM
had mostly lost my voice by the end of Pro Night.  Then I had Moonlight's habanero mead which was tasty but pretty much the last thing my throat needed.  After the typical airport nonsense I finally made it home last night.  Sore, exhausted, but smiling.
I think I had a noise hangover from Pro-Brewers Night. My friend had a decibel app that he said was pretty accurate compared to a real one he has at work. It registered 102.
yeah, it was loud. At the back of the hall, on the way to take a leak, it was like a jet engine, or Lava Falls rapid in the Grand Canyon.

Still did not meet all of you guys. Next year.

Many commented on how great Philly was as a host city. GR should be a good host too, but is much smaller. Maybe not as many good beer bars, but more breweries in walking distance.

I have to say that this was one of the best conference cities of all the ones I've been to, because of so much to do within walking distance of the hotel.  So many conferences have the hotel somewhere out near the airport and it takes a lot of effort to find the good beer places.
On the other hand I did not enjoy Pro Night or Club Night as much as in other NHC's, because of the crowds and the noise.  I guess they have some union laws that prevented the elaborate booths we've seen in the past.

I had to go to work today, and it sure is busy after having been off since Tuesday.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: Jimmy K on July 01, 2013, 05:02:33 PM
Many commented on how great Philly was as a host city. GR should be a good host too, but is much smaller. Maybe not as many good beer bars, but more breweries in walking distance.

We were in a city? Who knew!  ;D  I only left the Marriott/Convention Center/Reading Terminal once.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: Jimmy K on July 01, 2013, 05:08:49 PM
On the other hand I did not enjoy Pro Night or Club Night as much as in other NHC's, because of the crowds and the noise.  I guess they have some union laws that prevented the elaborate booths we've seen in the past.
I was guessing it was east coast clubs who've never been to club night and haven't had years to build up an impressive booth - and west coast clubs not wanting to ship their booth out.
 
Maybe.  - The noise was tough. I left pro-night early because of it.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: majorvices on July 01, 2013, 05:25:30 PM
If anyone still has any of the RGB Pilsner from the conference lying around you might want to get it out of the house:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sJrrkk7JBVQ/UdGrfxV1cEI/AAAAAAAAAS4/0wlLg-79_Vo/s400/photo.JPG)

I drank mine at the conference but a couple of club members had theirs explode on the way home.  The cans are way overcarbed.

We drank one right before the grand banquet. It was WAY overcarbed, and extremely yeasty. The other can was left at the after-party.

I would have bought it was an American Wheat Beer - but not Pils. Some action still happening in the cans, obviously.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 01, 2013, 05:26:58 PM
Clubs were told no food or power tools in the convention center.

That pilsner smelled like it had a Brett infection in the cans I dumped yesterday.

Jeff Carlson posted a picture of his 2 ruptured cans on face book, and said he thought it was something banging the underside of the car. Another guy in the club said his smelly clothes became extra smelly. :)
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: AmandaK on July 01, 2013, 05:34:10 PM
Clubs were told no food or power tools in the convention center.

You think that'll be the case in Grand Rapids? We will start designing a club booth soon, so if we have to design around that, it'd be good to know now.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: gsandel on July 01, 2013, 05:40:07 PM
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Clubs were told no food or power tools in the convention center

If we had enough notice, we should have made a competition out of this.....best macIver'ed club booth built by hand....imagine a popsicle stick and craft beer can tab/cap booth creation!

Just wait till some club grows their booth out hop plant topiaries....hmmm I should start a club. 

Talkin' 'bout sustainability!
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 01, 2013, 06:22:28 PM
Clubs were told no food or power tools in the convention center.

You think that'll be the case in Grand Rapids? We will start designing a club booth soon, so if we have to design around that, it'd be good to know now.
Don't know. Will have to look into it.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 01, 2013, 06:33:22 PM
One of the drawbacks of growth is that the conference will be in more and more convention centers, and some of those are Union. Read farther down. Contact and ask if you want a yes/no answer.
http://devosplace.org/meeting-planner-guide


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Post by: tmsnyder on July 01, 2013, 06:50:09 PM
Philly was AWESOME, what a place to host the conference.  Great walkable bars, great food at the Reading Market, HUGE facilities, great local organizers.  WOW.  What a conference!

I wouldn't mind if Philly did it every time for the NE US region, that was incredible.

Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: saintpierre on July 01, 2013, 06:57:37 PM
On the other hand I did not enjoy Pro Night or Club Night as much as in other NHC's, because of the crowds and the noise.  I guess they have some union laws that prevented the elaborate booths we've seen in the past.
I was guessing it was east coast clubs who've never been to club night and haven't had years to build up an impressive booth
Although I loved our booth, we definitely fall into this category.  Anyone come by the lighthouse?
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: tygo on July 01, 2013, 08:02:36 PM
Yeah, our booth was nothing impressive from an aesthetic perspective.  We did manage to have 11 beers on tap though and saved on labor by making it self serve  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: tmsnyder on July 02, 2013, 12:40:43 PM
Wow, west coast elitism.  Nice.


I was guessing it was east coast clubs who've never been to club night and haven't had years to build up an impressive booth

Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: Jimmy K on July 02, 2013, 12:46:32 PM
Wow, west coast elitism.  Nice.


I was guessing it was east coast clubs who've never been to club night and haven't had years to build up an impressive booth

??? I live in Delaware. We built a booth, but as this was our first year most of our effort went into basics - like a jockey box.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: brewmichigan on July 02, 2013, 01:49:06 PM
I'm hoping the Michigan clubs do a nice job next year since most of them already have big setups built for our Michigan Homebrew Festival that we have done for the last 3 years. If power tools aren't allowed again we are going to have to rethink the setups though.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: FirstStateBrewer on July 02, 2013, 02:43:58 PM
I live in Delaware. We built a booth, but as this was our first year most of our effort went into basics - like a jockey box.
The two Delaware clubs might not have had the most elaborate booths by comparison, but we sure had a great lineup of beers on tap!   ;D
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: majorvices on July 02, 2013, 03:25:48 PM
Man, I haven't been this sick in years. Soar throat. Major lung congestion. High fever. Still haven't gotten better. Started feeling feverish before I left PA. Anyone else get sick? I keep going back to that glass washing station in Hospitality Room. Used it 2 or 3 times and then started having doubts about its sanitation.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: davidgzach on July 02, 2013, 03:30:52 PM
Man, I haven't been this sick in years. Soar throat. Major lung congestion. High fever. Still haven't gotten better. Started feeling feverish before I left PA. Anyone else get sick? I keep going back to that glass washing station in Hospitality Room. Used it 2 or 3 times and then started having doubts about its sanitation.
My chest was pretty tight the past couple of days but feeling better today.  Hope you get well soon!

Dave
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: denny on July 02, 2013, 03:31:55 PM
I obviously didn't pick it up in Philly, but I've been fighting a similar cold for about 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: tygo on July 02, 2013, 03:33:26 PM
I keep going back to that glass washing station in Hospitality Room. Used it 2 or 3 times and then started having doubts about its sanitation.

I started to use it once, didn't get a good feeling about the sanitation, and went and rinsed my glass out with regular water.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: redbeerman on July 02, 2013, 03:56:03 PM
Man, I haven't been this sick in years. Soar throat. Major lung congestion. High fever. Still haven't gotten better. Started feeling feverish before I left PA. Anyone else get sick? I keep going back to that glass washing station in Hospitality Room. Used it 2 or 3 times and then started having doubts about its sanitation.
My chest was pretty tight the past couple of days but feeling better today.  Hope you get well soon!

Dave

I have some chest congestion, but I haven't been healthy since May (vacation).  Feel better soon, Keith!  Maybe some of that DIPA will help knock that crap outta ya!
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: majorvices on July 02, 2013, 04:10:09 PM
I keep going back to that glass washing station in Hospitality Room. Used it 2 or 3 times and then started having doubts about its sanitation.

I started to use it once, didn't get a good feeling about the sanitation, and went and rinsed my glass out with regular water.

My first reaction was "ewwww" then I saw everyone else using and figured "they" wouldn't put a wash station out that wasn't perfectly sanitary. Should have gone with my instincts. OTOH a guy I met named "Bobby" came up, drunk, and shook my hand and only after he shook my hand I realized he was sick. Went to wash my hands immediately but who knows.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: FirstStateBrewer on July 02, 2013, 04:20:41 PM
Man, I haven't been this sick in years. Soar throat. Major lung congestion. High fever. Still haven't gotten better. Started feeling feverish before I left PA. Anyone else get sick? I keep going back to that glass washing station in Hospitality Room. Used it 2 or 3 times and then started having doubts about its sanitation.
I never even got a hangover, although I should have.  :-) 

I passed on using that glass washing station.  Felt safer drinking from my own dirty glass. 

Hope you feel better soon!
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Post by: bluesman on July 02, 2013, 04:33:52 PM
My legs are still a little soar from walking around the conference and Philly. I must have walked about 10 miles a day from Tuesday thru Sunday. What an excellent conference. Glad to hear most everyone had a great time.

Club Night was the best. So many beers, too little time. I stopped at every single booth, some 80+ and got a total keg count. I'll tally the numbers and report back soon.

Hope to see many of you in Grand Rapids next June.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: bbkf on July 02, 2013, 04:57:11 PM
If anyone still has any of the RGB Pilsner from the conference lying around you might want to get it out of the house:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sJrrkk7JBVQ/UdGrfxV1cEI/AAAAAAAAAS4/0wlLg-79_Vo/s400/photo.JPG)

I drank mine at the conference but a couple of club members had theirs explode on the way home.  The cans are way overcarbed.

There was a perfect can sized space directly behind the safe that was in the hotel closet.  That is where my can is.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: brewmichigan on July 02, 2013, 05:02:50 PM
Man, I haven't been this sick in years. Soar throat. Major lung congestion. High fever. Still haven't gotten better. Started feeling feverish before I left PA. Anyone else get sick? I keep going back to that glass washing station in Hospitality Room. Used it 2 or 3 times and then started having doubts about its sanitation.

I woke up Saturday morning with a really bad sore throat but I think it was because our room was very dry and I was yelling over the 102dB from the night before. I did not use the glass washing station in the Hospitality room.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: Slowbrew on July 02, 2013, 07:07:59 PM
There is  a lot of stuff making the rounds this summer.  One of my daughters came home with a cold 3 weeks ago.  I took her almost 2 weeks to shake it off.  That's forever for a 15 year old.

I hope everyone fells better soon.  I'm sure it has nothing to do with karma payback for all of us who weren't able to get to Philly.   ;D  It's nice to hear everyone had a good time.

Paul
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: Jimmy K on July 02, 2013, 08:16:17 PM
My wife is uber sick - started yesterday. Luckily I have a cast iron immune system.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: klickitat jim on July 03, 2013, 12:38:16 AM
Good info here. If we go to GR we will wear tyvex and carry a spray bottle of starsan
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: davidgzach on July 03, 2013, 12:53:53 PM
I used the glass cleaner brushes once and thought against it afterwards.  I just used the water rinse for the rest of the conference.

Dave
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: mabrungard on July 03, 2013, 01:15:04 PM
Hey, I just found out I took Gold in style 23!! Anyone know how to watch the podcast?
Was that your goze?  I judged the specialty category and really liked it.  I talked to one of the best of show judges, Phil Farrell, to see how far it went in bos, but evidently Gordon Strong, who is doing research on the style, had "some problems" with it.  I wish I knew what kind of problems.  Maybe you could email him and ask.
Good idea on rubber-banding the guide lines to the bottles.

Gose? It was a Gratzer.  Very nice small beer.  Hint of acidity along with a low level of oak smoke.  Very tasty.  I was curious if my comments on Gratz water that I posted on the forum were useful for this beer?  I mentioned that the water profile posted in the Zymurgy article may not produce the ideal conditions for a Gratzer. 

+1 on getting those Pils cans away from people.  I took mine to the bathroom sink at the hotel.  It went off like a gunshot. 

The issue with unions and catering contracts really worries me for the future of club nights at convention centers.  The restrictions on how the clubs were able to express themselves with food and beverage is disheartening.  In my opinion, food restrictions at club night must be negotiated away when we are negotiating with a city to host.  That might be a long shot, but its something I've missed at the past few conferences. 

Overall, Philly was a fantastic conference and the city was very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 03, 2013, 01:28:34 PM
We had to extend the abuse, and went to Rehoboth Beach for 2 nights. DFH of course, and found a happy hour across the street that had pints of Troegenator for $3.50 and a half pound of shrimp for $4.50. Abuse insued.

Drove back yesterday. Always good to get home.

Who funds the conference beers these days? How are the breweries selected? Just asking.

Martin - really enjoyed the historic water talk, might rate that highest from my perspective. I had asked the guy who wrote the Zymurgy article on Graetzer/Grodziskie and asked about the water and did they adjust, his reply was that they do an acid rest. Do you think that would be enough to get the pH right?
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: davidgzach on July 03, 2013, 01:32:28 PM
We had to extend the abuse, and went to Rehoboth Beach for 2 nights. DFH of course, and found a happy hour across the street that had pints of Troegenator for $3.50 and a half pound of shrimp for $4.50. Abuse insued.

That's impressive Jeff.  Good meeting you.

Dave
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: majorvices on July 03, 2013, 01:48:03 PM
STILL bloody sick! Had to make Dr. appt. Low grade fever. Razor blades in my throat and lungs full of butter. F#@& you, glass washing station!

This is the first time I have been sick in 3 years, and the worse one in probably 10. And I have 2 kids that, anyone with kids knows, are walking bio terrorists during school months. Must me some weird yankee bird flu or something.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 03, 2013, 01:51:00 PM
STILL bloody sick! Had to make Dr. appt. Low grade fever. Razor blades in my throat and lungs full of butter. F#@& you, glass washing station!

This is the first time I have been sick in 3 years, and the worse one in probably 10. And I have 2 kids that, anyone with kids knows, are walking bio terrorists during school months. Must me some weird yankee bird flu or something.
For the record, I did not use the washing station and fell fine.

Keith, thanks for the swag!
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: denny on July 03, 2013, 03:17:20 PM
Jeff, to your question about conference beers...

the way it worked when "I" did one for Seattle is like this....grains were donated by Great Western and hops by Hop Union.  Wyeast offered to donate yeast, but John Maier just went with Pacman he had.  We got a mobile bottler to donate bottling facilities and Rogue donated the bottles themselves.  Another company donated the screening on the bottles.  My job was to come up with a recipe and find someone to brew it.  Although I was open to collaborating with John on a recipe, he was up for just using my standard Rye IPA recipe.  Sp, there are a lot of donations involved and I was going around in circles trying to get ducks in a row.  Fortunately Mike Higgins at Rogue was a huge help in getting donations and getting everything organized.  Anything else I can tell you?
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 03, 2013, 04:02:06 PM
Jeff, to your question about conference beers...

the way it worked when "I" did one for Seattle is like this....grains were donated by Great Western and hops by Hop Union.  Wyeast offered to donate yeast, but John Maier just went with Pacman he had.  We got a mobile bottler to donate bottling facilities and Rogue donated the bottles themselves.  Another company donated the screening on the bottles.  My job was to come up with a recipe and find someone to brew it.  Although I was open to collaborating with John on a recipe, he was up for just using my standard Rye IPA recipe.  Sp, there are a lot of donations involved and I was going around in circles trying to get ducks in a row.  Fortunately Mike Higgins at Rogue was a huge help in getting donations and getting everything organized.  Anything else I can tell you?
That makes it clear.
Title: Re: Anyone Else Still Recovering from NHC?
Post by: mabrungard on July 03, 2013, 04:54:55 PM

Martin - really enjoyed the historic water talk, might rate that highest from my perspective. I had asked the guy who wrote the Zymurgy article on Graetzer/Grodziskie and asked about the water and did they adjust, his reply was that they do an acid rest. Do you think that would be enough to get the pH right?

If I recall that water profile correctly, the alkalinity was the only significant detriment.  As the attendees at my NHC presentation should recall, the Munich profile is a case in point when the water is pre-boiled.  There is still a need to perform an acid rest or add acid malt to take care of the remaining alkalinity and brew light beers successfully.  If the alkalinity is low enough, say <200 ppm bicarb), then its possible that the lactic acid from those treatments will not be perceptable in the finished beer. 

By the way, with enough time an acid rest has the potential to knock out even high levels of alkalinity.