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Title: WLP002 or WLP007 for Arrogant Bastard?
Post by: ultravista on July 25, 2013, 02:24:43 PM
I've brewed A.B. several times now with WLP007. Last night I was reading The Craft of Stone Brewing and dagnabbit, nearly all of the recipes they provide cite either 002 or 007 for fermentation.

I am looking for feedback from those that have brewed A.B. with both 002 and 007 and the perceived/real differences between the two. For example, will 002 produce a maltier character vs. 007 drying the beer out?

And of the two, which do you prefer, and why?
Title: Re: WLP002 or WLP007 for Arrogant Bastard?
Post by: bwana on July 25, 2013, 03:29:17 PM
I have done an ESB,Pale Ale, and Brown Ale using these two yeasts at the same time. My wife and I prefered the 007 for all of them. The 007 gives you a maltier beer and the 002 a bit of fruit. Both are excellent just a matter of preference. Good luck!
Title: Re: WLP002 or WLP007 for Arrogant Bastard?
Post by: cheshirecat on July 25, 2013, 03:40:07 PM
+1 on WLP 007. I love both strains and brew about 70% of my beers with them. I would like for this beer 007 would be your best bet. Its definitely cleaner in terms of ester profile especially if you can ferment in the low/mid 60's.
Title: Re: WLP002 or WLP007 for Arrogant Bastard?
Post by: ultravista on July 25, 2013, 05:00:30 PM
I haven't used 002 before ... will the two (002 vs. 007) impart different flavors?
Title: Re: WLP002 or WLP007 for Arrogant Bastard?
Post by: cheshirecat on July 25, 2013, 07:33:41 PM
I find that 002 is more fruity, very traditional english tasting. 007 Cleaner more malt forward.
Title: Re: WLP002 or WLP007 for Arrogant Bastard?
Post by: AmandaK on July 25, 2013, 07:47:29 PM
What kind of attenuation numbers are you guys getting with WLP007? The last two times I used it, it didn't finish as low as I wanted.
Title: Re: WLP002 or WLP007 for Arrogant Bastard?
Post by: cheshirecat on July 25, 2013, 08:49:46 PM
I usually pitch at 60, let it rise up to 64 and hold there for a day or two then let it rise up 68-70. Normally don't have a problem getting the attenuation I want. Only issue I had using this strain was my last RIS which I missed my FG by about 6 points. Pretty sure that was due to my pitching rates. I was trying a new pitching rate calc and three of my beers unattenuated by about 5-6 points, so fairly sure I was under pitching. 
Title: Re: WLP002 or WLP007 for Arrogant Bastard?
Post by: bwana on July 26, 2013, 02:05:22 PM
What kind of attenuation numbers are you guys getting with WLP007? The last two times I used it, it didn't finish as low as I wanted.
I do not have my records with me but I have never had a problen with this yeast finishing a beer.