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Title: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: quattlebaum on July 30, 2013, 02:35:54 AM
So has anyone ever use a little bit of biscuit in a munich helles like 5 % or so?
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: dmtaylor on July 30, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
I would advise against it as I am a bit of a style nazi, but hey it's your beer.  I might cut it back to like 3% for a more subtle appearance.  Biscuit malt can become very distracting even in small amounts.
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: davidgzach on July 30, 2013, 12:47:22 PM
Ray Daniels used 3% in his book.  As Dave said, it's up to you.  Brew this one with it and the next without...

Dave
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: hubie on July 30, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I wanted to chime in to achieve a Dave tripartite. :)

 - Dave
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: udubdawg on July 30, 2013, 03:50:24 PM
3% was borderline too much for me, style-wise at least.
Still enjoyed it a great deal, but felt like it wasn't a helles.  YMMV.
Also made one with nothing but Kolsch malt.

Biscuit is arguably my favorite specialty malt though.  Started using it after reading Gordon's book and following his Belgian Pale Ale recipe.
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: snowtiger87 on July 30, 2013, 09:45:36 PM
You would be better off using 10% Munich malt in my opinion.
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: redbeerman on July 31, 2013, 01:09:53 PM
You would be better off using 10% Munich malt in my opinion.

I agree with this.  The only light lager I use cara malts in is my Dortmunder and that's just carapils.
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 31, 2013, 01:21:11 PM
Anyone try a fair amount of Weyermann Pale malt in a Helles? I liked what I got with about 30%
One translation of Pale to German is Hell.





Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: anthony on July 31, 2013, 09:31:02 PM
I like to do a blend of Pils and Pale malts for the majority of a Helles grist. Lately I've also enjoyed mixing in some of Best Malz' Heidelberg malt as well. After trying to brew a significant amount of Helles using all Pils malt, I went to Germany and on the tour of Aying outside of Munich I noticed that their base malt, which they said was 'Lager malt' tasted much more akin to Pale than Pils and I've been doing it ever since.
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on August 01, 2013, 12:47:08 AM
I like to do a blend of Pils and Pale malts for the majority of a Helles grist. Lately I've also enjoyed mixing in some of Best Malz' Heidelberg malt as well. After trying to brew a significant amount of Helles using all Pils malt, I went to Germany and on the tour of Aying outside of Munich I noticed that their base malt, which they said was 'Lager malt' tasted much more akin to Pale than Pils and I've been doing it ever since.
Thanks for that. I need to do than Ayinger brewery tour. Have been to Leibharts, but not the brewery proper.
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: bluesman on August 02, 2013, 04:47:16 PM
I'm also a proponent of using Munich malt in this case, as you'll get a very slight hint of bready toast in the flavor, plus a touch of gold in the color.
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: beersk on August 02, 2013, 05:13:25 PM
I like to do a blend of Pils and Pale malts for the majority of a Helles grist. Lately I've also enjoyed mixing in some of Best Malz' Heidelberg malt as well. After trying to brew a significant amount of Helles using all Pils malt, I went to Germany and on the tour of Aying outside of Munich I noticed that their base malt, which they said was 'Lager malt' tasted much more akin to Pale than Pils and I've been doing it ever since.
Interesting. I think I may try this on my next helles, which will be very soon!
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: boapiu on August 02, 2013, 10:08:58 PM
 "Bueller?... Bueller?... Bueller?"
Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: dmtaylor on August 03, 2013, 01:19:11 AM
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Title: Re: Biscuit Malt in a Munich Helles?
Post by: ynotbrusum on August 03, 2013, 04:46:05 PM
I didn't know that Ben Stein brewed? :o