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Title: Water Book?
Post by: Pinski on September 24, 2013, 05:35:20 PM
Was supposed to ship last week.  Anyone receive theirs yet?
Did I miss something?
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Post by: tomsawyer on September 24, 2013, 05:43:14 PM
Haven't seen mine.  I did see where Chris White was signing at Northern Brewer so its definitely out.  Book rate postal shipping is generally pretty slow.

Edited to add: oops it was Palmer who was at the book signing, got my gurus mixed up.  Sorry.
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Post by: theDarkSide on September 24, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
Haven't seen mine.  I did see where Chris White was signing at Northern Brewer so its definitely out.  Book rate postal shipping is generally pretty slow.

John Palmer and Colin Kaminski wrote the water book.  Unless Chris White had something to do with it I don't know.

I ordered mine from Amazon (sorry Brewer's Publications) and just received an email that I'll receive mine on October 1st (as opposed to the Oct 9th original date). 

I'm sure those who ordered from BP will get it first.  Don't spoil the ending for the rest of us.  ;D
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Post by: kswitzer on September 24, 2013, 06:10:47 PM
The Water book by John Palmer and Colin Kaminski (tech editors: A. J. deLange and Martin Brungard) has been shipped from Boulder to members taking advantage of the pre-sale. There was some pretty tremendous flooding in Boulder but the books did arrive last week and went right out according to the shipping method that was selected.  I've seen a couple of posts on Facebook so it must be starting to hit the mailboxes.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: Water Book?
Post by: Pinski on September 24, 2013, 06:26:46 PM
The Water book by John Palmer and Colin Kaminski (tech editors: A. J. deLange and Martin Brungard) has been shipped from Boulder to members taking advantage of the pre-sale. There was some pretty tremendous flooding in Boulder but the books did arrive last week and went right out according to the shipping method that was selected.  I've seen a couple of posts on Facebook so it must be starting to hit the mailboxes.  Enjoy!

Excellent, thank you for the update!
 :-[ Sorry, I forgot about the flooding. 
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Post by: AmandaK on September 24, 2013, 06:50:34 PM
I ordered mine from Amazon (sorry Brewer's Publications) and just received an email that I'll receive mine on October 1st (as opposed to the Oct 9th original date). 

I did the same thing - the last two books I've bought during the pre-sale (Yeast and Hops) have arrived much later than the Amazon shipping for me.

Fool me twice, can't be fooled again!  ;)
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Post by: morticaixavier on September 24, 2013, 07:41:05 PM
I ordered mine from Amazon (sorry Brewer's Publications) and just received an email that I'll receive mine on October 1st (as opposed to the Oct 9th original date). 

[...]

Fool me twice, can't be fooled again!  ;)

you forgot the uncertain 'uhh, uhh'  ::)
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Post by: Janis on September 24, 2013, 07:49:16 PM
I ordered mine from Amazon (sorry Brewer's Publications) and just received an email that I'll receive mine on October 1st (as opposed to the Oct 9th original date). 

I did the same thing - the last two books I've bought during the pre-sale (Yeast and Hops) have arrived much later than the Amazon shipping for me.

Fool me twice, can't be fooled again!  ;)
LOL, Amanda!
You could have bought it when you visited the AHA last week.
Cheers,
Janis
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Post by: AmandaK on September 24, 2013, 07:49:47 PM
Fool me twice, can't be fooled again!  ;)

you forgot the uncertain 'uhh, uhh'  ::)

Ha. I knew someone would get it.  8)
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Post by: AmandaK on September 24, 2013, 07:50:48 PM
LOL, Amanda!
You could have bought it when you visited the AHA last week.
Cheers,
Janis

Dang! I didn't see any on the shelf in the front, so I figured they were still in the warehouse! Oh well - next time I come to Boulder, I'll be sure to ask!
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Post by: mabrungard on September 24, 2013, 08:11:27 PM
My copy arrived yesterday.  Special treatment? ;)
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Post by: hopfenundmalz on September 24, 2013, 08:22:32 PM
I perused a copy on Saturday night, it was John Palmer's.  ;)
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Post by: speed on September 24, 2013, 10:19:15 PM
Anybody think its ironic that a book about water is shipped from a place that just got flooded?
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Post by: Janis on September 24, 2013, 10:21:19 PM
Anybody think its ironic that a book about water is shipped from a place that just got flooded?
Totally.   :-\
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Post by: duboman on September 24, 2013, 10:56:21 PM

Haven't seen mine.  I did see where Chris White was signing at Northern Brewer so its definitely out.  Book rate postal shipping is generally pretty slow.

Me too and got the same email and I'm looking forward to its arrival!

John Palmer and Colin Kaminski wrote the water book.  Unless Chris White had something to do with it I don't know.

I ordered mine from Amazon (sorry Brewer's Publications) and just received an email that I'll receive mine on October 1st (as opposed to the Oct 9th original date). 

I'm sure those who ordered from BP will get it first.  Don't spoil the ending for the rest of us.  ;D
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Post by: Alewyfe on September 24, 2013, 11:33:25 PM
I did the opposite Amanda....
I ordered Yeast and Hops from Amo, then felt so guilty I had to order Water from AHA.;)
Haven't seen it yet, but I'm not at a loss for reading material.
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Post by: ynotbrusum on September 25, 2013, 11:30:31 AM
I was wondering if the flooding was holding up the mailing, but my package arrived yesterday!
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Post by: theDarkSide on September 26, 2013, 03:54:11 PM
Just got an email from Amazon today that it has been shipped and I'll have it on Saturday.  After all this time waiting, it is finally here!!!  Let's just hope I can figure out what the hell they are talking about.

Palmer, Kaminski, DeLange, and Brungard are some pretty heavy hitters when it comes to water...my head might actually explode! :o
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn176/stevo155/headexplode_zpsadc54836.jpg)
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Post by: denny on September 26, 2013, 04:36:02 PM
LOVE IT!
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Post by: bluesman on September 26, 2013, 04:39:45 PM
Just got an email from Amazon today that it has been shipped and I'll have it on Saturday.  After all this time waiting, it is finally here!!!  Let's just hope I can figure out what the hell they are talking about.

Palmer, Kaminski, DeLange, and Brungard are some pretty heavy hitters when it comes to water...my head might actually explode! :o
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn176/stevo155/headexplode_zpsadc54836.jpg)

Awesome! :))
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Post by: thomasbarnes on September 26, 2013, 05:14:48 PM
Was supposed to ship last week.  Anyone receive theirs yet?
Did I miss something?

I got mine on Saturday.
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Post by: Titanium Brewing on September 26, 2013, 06:27:44 PM
I ordered mine from the BA website on 9/4. Still no word on my copy.  :(
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Post by: rickyk76 on September 27, 2013, 01:33:32 AM

Was supposed to ship last week.  Anyone receive theirs yet?
Did I miss something?

I got mine on Saturday.

Did you order from AHA or Amazon? I ordered from AHA on 9/5 and no word yet. If there's going to be a pre-sale, you would think they would fill those orders first, right?
Title: Re: Water Book?
Post by: rickyk76 on September 27, 2013, 05:05:54 PM
Just an FYI: according to the AHA all current Water book orders have shipped. There was a delay due to the flooding in the Boulder area that shut AHA operations for a few days. People who haven't received their books yet should begin seeing them by Monday or Tuesday.
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Post by: thatgeekguy on September 27, 2013, 05:12:34 PM
Just checked my Amazon pre-order, hasn't shipped but says estimated delivery is 10/1....  :D
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Post by: duboman on September 27, 2013, 05:27:29 PM
I'm supposed to receive my copy via Amazon tomorrow.
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Post by: Jarhno on September 27, 2013, 08:03:48 PM
I got my copy last tuesday, which seems very fast compared to everyone else!

But maybe it was because I ordered Water, Hops, and Yeast all together that they jumped me ahead in shipping?
Title: Re: Water Book?
Post by: theDarkSide on September 27, 2013, 08:07:14 PM
I got my copy last tuesday, which seems very fast compared to everyone else!

But maybe it was because I ordered Water, Hops, and Yeast all together that they jumped me ahead in shipping?

Gee...if you waited for Grains to come out, you could have ordered a "Beer"  ;D
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Post by: redbeerman on September 27, 2013, 08:09:17 PM
I got my copy last tuesday, which seems very fast compared to everyone else!

But maybe it was because I ordered Water, Hops, and Yeast all together that they jumped me ahead in shipping?

Gee...if you waited for Grains to come out, you could have ordered a "Beer"  ;D

Ya beat me to it! :D
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Post by: Jarhno on September 27, 2013, 08:28:56 PM
I got my copy last tuesday, which seems very fast compared to everyone else!

But maybe it was because I ordered Water, Hops, and Yeast all together that they jumped me ahead in shipping?

Gee...if you waited for Grains to come out, you could have ordered a "Beer"  ;D

Hah!! Is it officially going to be "Grains"? I thought it might be Malts but then they wouldn't have a new & different vowel to highlight in a different color on the cover.  ;D
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Post by: Titanium Brewing on September 28, 2013, 10:29:16 PM
Just came in the mail an hour ago.  :)
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Post by: hopfenundmalz on September 28, 2013, 10:57:49 PM
Mine arrived today.
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Post by: jeffy on September 29, 2013, 12:04:09 AM
Mine came today as well.
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Post by: cornershot on September 29, 2013, 12:53:17 AM
Got it.
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Post by: waltsmalt on September 29, 2013, 02:52:09 PM
Got mine yesterday.  Stoked!
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Post by: joe_feist on September 29, 2013, 03:01:52 PM
Pulled mine out of the mailbox this morning. Must have come Saturday.
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Post by: HydraulicSammich on September 29, 2013, 04:33:29 PM
Mine as well on Saturday!
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Post by: james on September 29, 2013, 04:58:13 PM
Hah!! Is it officially going to be "Grains"? I thought it might be Malts but then they wouldn't have a new & different vowel to highlight in a different color on the cover.  ;D

I'm pretty certain it is going to be Malt written by John Mallett. 

BTW: Mine arrived sometime last week, I was on vacation so I didn't get it till saturday when all of my vacation held mail showed up
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Post by: tomsawyer on September 30, 2013, 02:00:04 PM
Mine came Saturday.  I was glad to see some stuff on the effects of adding phosphoric acid.  I've been using it instead of lactic and noticed some interesting results, namely it causes things to drop out of my hard tap water especially when I also add my flavor salts (CaCl2 and CaSO4).  I'm adding the salts to the mash now and only treating the water with phosphoric as I heat it.  I added some phosphoric to some water and boiled it, and I got  alot of precipitate.  I'm goign to use this to make up my starsan now, when I use tap water it gets hazy right away.
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Post by: AmandaK on October 01, 2013, 06:05:19 PM
An interesting tidbit I found in the first few pages:
Quote
...the chlorination of decaying plant matter creates TCA (2,4,6-Trichloroanisole). This off-flavor, described as earthy, mildew, wet dog or dank basement, is detectable at very low thresholds.

I find this interesting as a judge. Burned in my memory is a beer that could only be described as "wet dog with poopy feet" - makes me wonder if this was really the case.

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Post by: tomsawyer on October 01, 2013, 07:03:55 PM
An interesting tidbit I found in the first few pages:
Quote
...the chlorination of decaying plant matter creates TCA (2,4,6-Trichloroanisole). This off-flavor, described as earthy, mildew, wet dog or dank basement, is detectable at very low thresholds.

I find this interesting as a judge. Burned in my memory is a beer that could only be described as "wet dog with poopy feet" - makes me wonder if this was really the case.
That a wet dog with poopy feet walked through the beer, or that it had chlorinated aromatic compounds?
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Post by: duboman on October 01, 2013, 10:19:06 PM
Mine finally arrived today! Can't wait to dig in:)
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Post by: AmandaK on October 02, 2013, 01:22:55 AM
An interesting tidbit I found in the first few pages:
Quote
...the chlorination of decaying plant matter creates TCA (2,4,6-Trichloroanisole). This off-flavor, described as earthy, mildew, wet dog or dank basement, is detectable at very low thresholds.

I find this interesting as a judge. Burned in my memory is a beer that could only be described as "wet dog with poopy feet" - makes me wonder if this was really the case.
That a wet dog with poopy feet walked through the beer, or that it had chlorinated aromatic compounds?
Well, my only suggestion I could offer at the time was "watch sanitation". I don't like that being my only suggestion. Perhaps I'll pick up a few more tips in this book!
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Post by: punatic on October 02, 2013, 06:48:59 AM
My copy arrived yesterday.  Special treatment? ;)
 
Water treatment...  shuh!   ;)
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Post by: theDarkSide on October 02, 2013, 12:19:38 PM
Mine finally arrived today! Can't wait to dig in:)

Don't you mean "dive into it"?  It's not a earth book  ;D
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Post by: duboman on October 02, 2013, 05:07:58 PM

Mine finally arrived today! Can't wait to dig in:)

Don't you mean "dive into it"?  It's not a earth book  ;D

Being a landscape contractor I like to dig;D
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Post by: Slowbrew on October 02, 2013, 06:22:37 PM

Mine finally arrived today! Can't wait to dig in:)

Don't you mean "dive into it"?  It's not a earth book  ;D

Being a landscape contractor I like to dig;D

I got my copy on Monday.  Following the above logic I will need to get busy parsing it one of these days.  8^)

Paul
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Post by: tomsawyer on October 02, 2013, 07:49:02 PM
I put mine in the freezer so I can drill down on some particular topics tonight.
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Post by: morticaixavier on October 02, 2013, 07:55:47 PM
Seems like this book is really making some waves.
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Post by: theDarkSide on October 02, 2013, 08:00:29 PM
These jokes are all wet!
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Post by: Slowbrew on October 02, 2013, 09:15:08 PM
Maybe I should just let it soak for awhile.

Paul
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Post by: Titanium Brewing on October 02, 2013, 09:43:21 PM
My copy is on ice until I finish the audacity of hops.
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Post by: klickitat jim on October 02, 2013, 10:05:28 PM
My copy is on ice until I finish the audacity of hops.
Very witty! I like it.