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Title: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: twharvey on October 09, 2013, 12:50:58 AM
I have a Black IPA/Cascadian Dark Ale fermenting along that I hopped with Galena and Willamette hops. I have 2 oz of Fuggles pellets that I want to use up and was thinking of dry hopping my batch with them.  Will there be any flavor clash with that combo of hops? 

Thanks,

Terry
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: erockrph on October 09, 2013, 02:27:54 AM
I pretty much use Willamette and Fuggles interchangeably. Willamette has a touch of citrus to it, but is otherwise real close to Fuggles. I think it would be a nice choice for a Black IPA.
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: klickitat jim on October 09, 2013, 02:49:42 AM
I love Willamette. The citrus note is lemony to me rather than the typical grapefruit of others. Works great in a lot of styles. Especially blonde
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: denny on October 09, 2013, 03:39:50 PM
I love Willamette. The citrus note is lemony to me rather than the typical grapefruit of others. Works great in a lot of styles. Especially blonde

Wow!  All I get from Willamette/Fuggles is wood and dirt.  Perceptions are interesting, huh?
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: tomsawyer on October 09, 2013, 04:32:44 PM
I had an all-Fuggles IPA the other day and thought of you Denny.  It was certainly earthy but not at all bad.  Didn't get a lot of citrus either.
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: Joe Sr. on October 09, 2013, 05:05:10 PM
I had an all-Fuggles IPA the other day and thought of you Denny.  It was certainly earthy but not at all bad.  Didn't get a lot of citrus either.

I use a whole lot of Fuggles and "earthy" is exactly how I would describe it.  "Dirt" sounds so negative.

Willamette is a pretty good substitute, so there shouldn't be any clash.  Never used Galena that I know of so I can't comment there.
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: jeffy on October 09, 2013, 05:59:53 PM
I love Willamette. The citrus note is lemony to me rather than the typical grapefruit of others. Works great in a lot of styles. Especially blonde

Wow!  All I get from Willamette/Fuggles is wood and dirt.  Perceptions are interesting, huh?
I stopped using Willamette because of the metallic taste I got (and judges in competitions got).  I doubt this would be an issue with dry hops though.
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: denny on October 09, 2013, 06:26:34 PM
I had an all-Fuggles IPA the other day and thought of you Denny.  It was certainly earthy but not at all bad.  Didn't get a lot of citrus either.

I use a whole lot of Fuggles and "earthy" is exactly how I would describe it.  "Dirt" sounds so negative.

Willamette is a pretty good substitute, so there shouldn't be any clash.  Never used Galena that I know of so I can't comment there.

I recently brewed a "legacy" batch of my Noti Brown Ale recipe.  It uses a lot of Willamettes and over the years I'd switched them out for other hops.  It was the first recipe I ever won with, so I thought I'd revisit it in the original form.  I could immedialtely taste the earthy, dirt, whatever you want to call it.  I gave some to 2 friends, both BJCP, and that was the first thing they commented on.
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: klickitat jim on October 09, 2013, 06:30:27 PM
I only use them dry and in brews under 50 ibu.
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: Joe Sr. on October 09, 2013, 06:32:55 PM
I recently brewed a "legacy" batch of my Noti Brown Ale recipe.  It uses a lot of Willamettes and over the years I'd switched them out for other hops.  It was the first recipe I ever won with, so I thought I'd revisit it in the original form.  I could immedialtely taste the earthy, dirt, whatever you want to call it.  I gave some to 2 friends, both BJCP, and that was the first thing they commented on.

Was their comment negative?  I'm assuming so.  I get the earthy taste but to me it's not a negative.
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: HoosierBrew on October 09, 2013, 06:39:39 PM
I had an all-Fuggles IPA the other day and thought of you Denny.  It was certainly earthy but not at all bad.  Didn't get a lot of citrus either.


I use a whole lot of Fuggles and "earthy" is exactly how I would describe it.  "Dirt" sounds so negative.

Willamette is a pretty good substitute, so there shouldn't be any clash.  Never used Galena that I know of so I can't comment there.

I recently brewed a "legacy" batch of my Noti Brown Ale recipe.  It uses a lot of Willamettes and over the years I'd switched them out for other hops.  It was the first recipe I ever won with, so I thought I'd revisit it in the original form.  I could immedialtely taste the earthy, dirt, whatever you want to call it.  I gave some to 2 friends, both BJCP, and that was the first thing they commented on.
I brewed that last year Denny and replaced the Willamette with Chinook ( loosely ala Arrogant Bastard).  It came out pretty good.  Great malt base.
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: Stevie on October 09, 2013, 06:43:14 PM
I get earth and spice. I make a session smash with willamette a couple of times a year.
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: hopfenundmalz on October 09, 2013, 06:49:30 PM
I had an all-Fuggles IPA the other day and thought of you Denny.  It was certainly earthy but not at all bad.  Didn't get a lot of citrus either.

I use a whole lot of Fuggles and "earthy" is exactly how I would describe it.  "Dirt" sounds so negative.

Willamette is a pretty good substitute, so there shouldn't be any clash.  Never used Galena that I know of so I can't comment there.

I recently brewed a "legacy" batch of my Noti Brown Ale recipe.  It uses a lot of Willamettes and over the years I'd switched them out for other hops.  It was the first recipe I ever won with, so I thought I'd revisit it in the original form.  I could immedialtely taste the earthy, dirt, whatever you want to call it.  I gave some to 2 friends, both BJCP, and that was the first thing they commented on.

Stay away from X-462 then, had it recently at a well known brewpub that makes a beer called Hop 2 It.  Both of us got earthy, herbal. Finish was a surprise, chocolate like. The beer was pale, so no dark malts.

This might make a white stout.!  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: denny on October 09, 2013, 07:14:34 PM
I recently brewed a "legacy" batch of my Noti Brown Ale recipe.  It uses a lot of Willamettes and over the years I'd switched them out for other hops.  It was the first recipe I ever won with, so I thought I'd revisit it in the original form.  I could immedialtely taste the earthy, dirt, whatever you want to call it.  I gave some to 2 friends, both BJCP, and that was the first thing they commented on.

Was their comment negative?  I'm assuming so.  I get the earthy taste but to me it's not a negative.

They didn't exactly go "EWWWW, this is terrible".  But I got the impression they didn't care for it.  But like everything else involving taste, it's subjective.
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: denny on October 09, 2013, 07:20:41 PM
This might make a white stout.!  ;D

DO NOT go there!  :)
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: Jimmy K on October 09, 2013, 08:22:50 PM
This might make a white stout.!  ;D

DO NOT go there!  :)
If coffee beans are not cracked, the infuse flavor without color - just sayin...
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: twharvey on October 12, 2013, 01:12:05 AM
I pretty much use Willamette and Fuggles interchangeably. Willamette has a touch of citrus to it, but is otherwise real close to Fuggles. I think it would be a nice choice for a Black IPA.

Thanks for your input, just dropped the dry hop bag in the fermenter, will give it a few more days and then bottle it up.
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: erockrph on November 20, 2013, 06:02:50 PM
This might make a white stout.!  ;D

DO NOT go there!  :)
If coffee beans are not cracked, the infuse flavor without color - just sayin...

Just saw this in my inbox and was reminded of this thread:

http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?products_id=13920
Title: Re: Dry Hopping Advice
Post by: Jimmy K on November 21, 2013, 04:19:51 PM
If coffee beans are not cracked, the infuse flavor without color - just sayin...

Just saw this in my inbox and was reminded of this thread:

http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?products_id=13920 (http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?products_id=13920)
Now I'm wondering what happens when you mash whole roasted barley