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Title: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 03, 2013, 03:24:51 PM
what are some of the sites you guys are using for bulk hops?

and if you could pick one hop to brew ipa's with what would you use?

thanks
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: klickitat jim on November 03, 2013, 03:39:36 PM
I can't afford bulk and I don't have the room to store them. I buy by the pound, ordered thru my LHBS. They usually come from Brew Craft or Hop Heaven. Price varies depending on type.

One hop for IPA ? If forced to it would probably be cascade or centennial because most of the other are best when paired with a dance partner or two. My house IPA is Simcoe Mosaic and Amarillo
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 03, 2013, 03:51:44 PM
thanks, just trying to figure out what hops to order maybe one or two, i don't have a lot of room. i really like hoppy piny ipa's
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: klickitat jim on November 03, 2013, 03:58:36 PM
I'd suggest trying a few until you find what you like then stock up. Otherwise you end up giving away hops you don't like. Guess how I know that LOL
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 03, 2013, 04:02:11 PM
good idea, i was thinking about trying Zythos
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: erockrph on November 03, 2013, 04:02:37 PM
For bulk hops I use Yakima Valley Hops, Hops Direct and Freshops primarily. Farmhouse Brewing Supply and Nikobrew also have a decent selection.

I wouldn't brew a single-hopped IPA, because I really feel like you need some layers of complexity in the hops. If I had to choose one hop as a base for all my IPAs I'd probably go with Amarillo. But there are lots of other options as well. Nelson Sauvin, Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe, Cascade, Apollo, Columbus and Centennial are all at home in any IPA.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: majorvices on November 03, 2013, 04:03:08 PM
Here's a couple good sites for hop purchasing

www.hopsdirect.com

www.freshops.com

Centennial is my favorite IPA hop but if you are looking for Piny I'd go with Centennial and Simcoe as finishing hops.

I'm not a big fan of Zythos, personally.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: yso191 on November 03, 2013, 04:03:41 PM
My favorite place to buy hops is: http://www.yakimavalleyhops.com/default.asp

Great prices, great service.  If I absolutely had to be limited to one hop it would be Citra.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: HoosierBrew on November 03, 2013, 04:05:57 PM
www.yakimavalleyhops.com  has a pretty solid selection. I've used them before among others. Centennial would always be one of my first choices to bitter and finish an IPA with, though blending finishing hops gives a lot more complexity of flavor and aroma. Centennial are a "super Cascade" that have a higher AA% and are more citrusy than Cascade IMO.  Zythos (which is actually a hop blend) would do nicely as well for a single hop IPA. Since you mentioned that you like piney IPAs, Chinook is a very piney hop which would definitely qualify.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 03, 2013, 04:09:50 PM
wow thanks for all the info. i just started doing ten gallon batches and i don't want to spend a ton of money
thats why i was thinking about buying a few bulk hops, then just picking up the grain and yeast at my local homebrew store.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: majorvices on November 03, 2013, 04:13:51 PM
My favorite place to buy hops is: http://www.yakimavalleyhops.com/default.asp

Great prices, great service.  If I absolutely had to be limited to one hop it would be Citra.

And sadly I could not drink your IPA. :(
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: klickitat jim on November 03, 2013, 04:39:41 PM
Citra can be a little "cat boxy" for me. But I think it's all about how it's handled or teamed up with or aged.

When I first tried simcoe I though "nasty" ! Then a couple weeks later it turned grapefruit and was super
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: fmader on November 03, 2013, 05:34:44 PM
www.hopsshack.com (http://www.hopsshack.com)

Really tough to beat some of the prices.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: duboman on November 03, 2013, 06:16:03 PM

www.hopsshack.com (http://www.hopsshack.com)

Really tough to beat some of the prices.

+1
Great prices, fast shipping and quality hops all vacuum sealed
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: majorvices on November 03, 2013, 06:46:51 PM
Citra can be a little "cat boxy" for me. But I think it's all about how it's handled or teamed up with or aged.

When I first tried simcoe I though "nasty" ! Then a couple weeks later it turned grapefruit and was super

I can do citra in moderate doses but not all citra.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: HoosierBrew on November 03, 2013, 06:55:19 PM
Citra can be a little "cat boxy" for me. But I think it's all about how it's handled or teamed up with or aged.

When I first tried simcoe I though "nasty" ! Then a couple weeks later it turned grapefruit and was super

I can do citra in moderate doses but not all citra.
Same here.  I think it works blended with 3 or 4 other hops but I can't take too much of it.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: erockrph on November 03, 2013, 08:21:05 PM
I can do citra in moderate doses but not all citra.
Same here.  I think it works blended with 3 or 4 other hops but I can't take too much of it.

Hard to do Citra in moderate doses since it's so potent. I like it, but it's too monotone for me to want to use it as the main hop in an IPA. Pairs nice with so many hops that I'll always keep it in my toolkit, though.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: yso191 on November 03, 2013, 08:43:35 PM
My favorite place to buy hops is: http://www.yakimavalleyhops.com/default.asp

Great prices, great service.  If I absolutely had to be limited to one hop it would be Citra.

And sadly I could not drink your IPA. :(

Thankfully, we all have different palates.  Though I have never tried an all-Citra IPA, since Citra is to expensive to 'waste' on just bittering.  Alpha Acids are Alpha Acids for the most part (Oh I know the whole low- cohumulone stuff, etc. - I don't want to start a whole NEW back-and-forth).

However, I have never encountered the 'cat box' thing I regularly hear about.  I'll attribute it to my awesome brewing skills.  ;)   

I love the fruitiness of Citra both in the aroma and flavor.  I have yet to taste or brew an IPA with too much Citra.  The last Citra-focused IPA I brewed had 1/2 pound of Citra in a 5 gallon batch.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: paloaf on November 03, 2013, 08:53:45 PM
The best place I've found is Hop Heaven from Ted Hausotter. Ted is very knowledgeable about what he sells and more importantly very nice and accommodating.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: majorvices on November 03, 2013, 08:56:17 PM
I have done an all citra pale ale which is why I'm saying. Too much mango flavor to me. Not catty, but artificial tasting. Others who had it enjoyed it, though. But I still stand byy assertion that it is not a good single hop beer choice.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: denny on November 03, 2013, 09:55:48 PM
The best place I've found is Hop Heaven from Ted Hausotter. Ted is very knowledgeable about what he sells and more importantly very nice and accommodating.

THIS^^^  I've known Ted for years and started buying from him a few years ago.  Without a doubt, the best quality hops I've ever gotten.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: erockrph on November 03, 2013, 10:01:25 PM
The best place I've found is Hop Heaven from Ted Hausotter. Ted is very knowledgeable about what he sells and more importantly very nice and accommodating.

+1 - Forgot about Ted in my initial post. Great prices, service and selection. He gets some stuff you won't find elsewhere, too.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: AmandaK on November 03, 2013, 10:13:04 PM
The best place I've found is Hop Heaven from Ted Hausotter. Ted is very knowledgeable about what he sells and more importantly very nice and accommodating.

+1 - Forgot about Ted in my initial post. Great prices, service and selection. He gets some stuff you won't find elsewhere, too.

I miss his sales each year - when are they happening this year?
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 03, 2013, 11:48:17 PM
Hmm how about using chinook and cascade, looking to build my own recipe
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: erockrph on November 04, 2013, 12:19:49 AM
The best place I've found is Hop Heaven from Ted Hausotter. Ted is very knowledgeable about what he sells and more importantly very nice and accommodating.

+1 - Forgot about Ted in my initial post. Great prices, service and selection. He gets some stuff you won't find elsewhere, too.

I miss his sales each year - when are they happening this year?

I preordered months ago. I think he's starting to ship some varieties now. You could shoot him an email to see what he's got left.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: HoosierBrew on November 04, 2013, 12:27:33 AM
Hmm how about using chinook and cascade, looking to build my own recipe
It works well.  I would bitter with the Chinook at 60 min, then blend the two hops for finishing. But the Chinook could overpower Cascade at 1:1, so I would blend it 2 parts Cascade : 1 part Chinook (or maybe 3:2 anyway). Or throw in some Centennial or Amarillo along with those for some more complexity. It'll make a nice IPA.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 04, 2013, 12:36:24 AM
thanks!!!
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 04, 2013, 12:58:14 AM
looks like i'm going to use chinook, cascade, and centennial. you think 4oz of each hop is enough for a ten gallon batch?
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: Jeff M on November 04, 2013, 01:02:36 AM
http://fourstarfarms.com/hops/  locally grown whole leaf hops here in MA.  The staff is very accommodating as well:)
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: HoosierBrew on November 04, 2013, 01:09:42 AM
looks like i'm going to use chinook, cascade, and centennial. you think 4oz of each hop is enough for a ten gallon batch?
I say use it as a starting point. Maybe  2 oz Chinook for bittering , finish with the blend of the rest. Personal tastes in hops vary widely - I use quite a bit. So use this amount, take good notes,  and you'll know how much to adjust next time.  Let us know how it comes out !
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: Jeff M on November 04, 2013, 01:24:50 AM
looks like i'm going to use chinook, cascade, and centennial. you think 4oz of each hop is enough for a ten gallon batch?

It really depends on when you add them all. if you added them all at the beggining of the boil then probably to much, but if you do them all as aroma and flavour hops then probably not
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 04, 2013, 01:27:52 AM
http://www.brewtoad.com/recipes/joes-ipa-1


to much?
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: HoosierBrew on November 04, 2013, 01:30:21 AM
I mentioned to use 2 oz Chinook to bitter, then to finish with the rest.  By finish, start adding the blend with 15 minutes left, incrementally until flameout.  Then add some more to dry hop.  Not too much done that way.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 04, 2013, 01:32:27 AM
roger that
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 04, 2013, 01:37:29 AM
see what you think now, thanks again
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: millstone on November 04, 2013, 12:43:59 PM
The best place I've found is Hop Heaven from Ted Hausotter. Ted is very knowledgeable about what he sells and more importantly very nice and accommodating.

I can only find this store on eBay, does Ted have a website?

thanks

tom
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: majorvices on November 04, 2013, 02:02:04 PM
The best place I've found is Hop Heaven from Ted Hausotter. Ted is very knowledgeable about what he sells and more importantly very nice and accommodating.

THIS^^^  I've known Ted for years and started buying from him a few years ago.  Without a doubt, the best quality hops I've ever gotten.

I source most of my West Coast style hops from Ted. Wasn't aware he sold to homebrewers.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: erockrph on November 04, 2013, 02:33:56 PM
The best place I've found is Hop Heaven from Ted Hausotter. Ted is very knowledgeable about what he sells and more importantly very nice and accommodating.

THIS^^^  I've known Ted for years and started buying from him a few years ago.  Without a doubt, the best quality hops I've ever gotten.

I source most of my West Coast style hops from Ted. Wasn't aware he sold to homebrewers.

I think the market he kind of targets is stuff like bulk buys from homebrew clubs. I guess I just use that much hops lol.

I came across him last year when I was trying to track down some Meridian. This year he's supposed to be getting Mandarina Bavaria from Germany.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: reverseapachemaster on November 04, 2013, 03:19:43 PM
I've bought bulk from both hopsdirect and freshhops. I've liked the hops I've received from both. Very reasonable prices. I've also used Farmhouse Brewing Supply when I need a few ounces at a reasonable prices. They sell in 4oz packs at a fair price. My local shops are typically selling at $2-4 per ounce.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: denny on November 04, 2013, 04:26:05 PM
The best place I've found is Hop Heaven from Ted Hausotter. Ted is very knowledgeable about what he sells and more importantly very nice and accommodating.

I can only find this store on eBay, does Ted have a website?

thanks

tom

Nope, he doesn't.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 04, 2013, 06:23:29 PM
just ordered some from nikobrew under $20 shipped for 12ozs
chinook, cascade,centennial
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on November 05, 2013, 08:33:09 PM
Just did some more updates to the recipe
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: micsager on November 05, 2013, 09:32:18 PM
www.hopsdirect.com

Good (not great) prices.  And superfast shipping.  I'm in the same state, but generally get my hops the next day if ordered before noon.
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: jeepinctbrewer on March 04, 2014, 04:11:20 PM
update! this beer came out awesome, sent it to the homebrew competition
thanks for all the help
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: pete b on March 05, 2014, 01:39:44 AM
Best deal on bulk hops ever? Growing my own! I have cascade and galena right now. It takes 3 years for a good harvest but they are relatively trouble free. You need to give them good fertility and a fair amount of sun. I also learned the hard way that if you have free range chickens fence them off when they first come up in spring. They are gorgeous ( those are them as my avitar) i dry them on screens with a fan in my cellar and then use a vacuum sealer in one ounce packages and freeze them. The rhizomes are pretty cheap and my 4 year old cascade vine yields are great. You do need to build a trellis. I use a twelve foot 4x4 and 4" x2" green fencing
Title: Re: looking for a good deal on bulk hops
Post by: ccfoo242 on March 05, 2014, 02:38:37 PM

The best place I've found is Hop Heaven from Ted Hausotter. Ted is very knowledgeable about what he sells and more importantly very nice and accommodating.

I can only find this store on eBay, does Ted have a website?

thanks

tom

Nope, he doesn't.

I bought from him late last year. Happy so far. The pound bags came double vacuum sealed.


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