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Title: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: swampale on November 28, 2013, 01:03:08 PM
I am not a cheap person. I love serving my homebrew to guests. However, when we have guests for the weekend, it is always up to me to serve beer. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it. But when I go to their house, they expect me to bring homebrew or store bought beer. Something is wrong here. My thought is if you come here for the weekend, at least bring a sixer of good Craft Beer since our small town doesn't have the variety of big city beer stores. Now they are bringing friends to stay for the weekend now. To me, I would never, ever go to friends house for the weekend without at least bring something unique to drink. How to other homebrewers deal with non-homebrewing guests/visits?
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: fmader on November 28, 2013, 01:18:51 PM
Simple... I straight up tell people to bring food or good beer. My "good beer" usually turns into a mountain of Sam Adams winter lager though... So I'm starting to be more specific.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: cornershot on November 28, 2013, 01:49:36 PM
I share freely with my guests and expect nothing in return. When I go to their house I bring enough homebrew to share. When I attend a party I'm the guy who shows up with a keg or two. When my club has an event they can always count on me to bring a keg. I don't keep score and never expect anything in return. I brew often and always have a steady supply so I share what I can. Homebrewers are kind, generous, and cool.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: guido on November 28, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
My in-laws mock my homebrew and make yeast infection jokes.  They'd drink cat piss if it were in a Yuengling bottle, tho.  It used to bother me, but now I realize they're not worthy.  I never bring homebrew to family events. 
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: HoosierBrew on November 28, 2013, 02:02:56 PM
I share my brews pretty freely because I brew alot more than I can drink.  Luckily I have plenty of beer geek friends and family members who appreciate craft beer - but the first guy who threw out the condescending yeast infection cracks would get damn sure cut off, and free to drink his Miller Lite (or whatever).
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: hmbrewing on November 28, 2013, 02:04:58 PM
I'm a little in between the other guys....I always happily serve my homebrew when people who appreciate it stop by to visit. Key phrase here: people who appreciate it. When I travel - I rarely bring it. With my schedule, it's tough to sneak multiple brew days in a month, let alone 1 brew day a month. So I like to stretch my homebrew as far as possible - as well as be sure I have enough to serve to guests who visit. It's amazing how fast it disappears when you bring a few bottles here, a few bottles there. Nothing worse than running out of a delicious batch prematurely!

As a side note: one time I had co-workers beg me to bring in my homebrew (we work in a pretty relaxed environment - beer is always in the fridge). So - I had just kegged and carbonated a delicious IPA! I decided to bring in the entire keg thinking "it's way too bitter for most to appreciate". HA! Boy was I wrong! I brought home a nearly empty keg. Shame on me. I only had it on tap for about 2 weeks - very sad. Never did that again!
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: son_of_buncrana on November 28, 2013, 02:40:38 PM
I love sharing my homebrew with friends that come over and hearing there comments. I don't like people who don't know anything about homebrewing beer or much about craft beer, like this guy who came to a party with one of my friends I invited and the first thing out of the guys mouth was which one of these beer taste like bud. I just turned and walked away not even answering him and gave my friend a look like who is this guy u brought.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: klickitat jim on November 28, 2013, 03:07:56 PM
^ I would look upon that as a teachable moment.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: narcout on November 28, 2013, 03:20:18 PM
I don't like people who don't know anything about homebrewing beer or much about craft beer

Hilarious
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: tommymorris on November 28, 2013, 03:28:39 PM
What I don't like is when a guest gets a glass of home brew then doesn't like it but won't speak up.  They'll sip the same glass all night. I feel bad. I always have commercial beer they can get if they just fess up. My feelings aren't hurt.  I get that everyone's taste is different. Lots of BMC folks don't like malt and or hop flavors in beer.  They don't like the variety a home brewer likes.

So in the end I try to feel a person out before offering home brew.

I now also pour small servings at first so people try before diving all the way in.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: Three on November 28, 2013, 03:51:57 PM
I share freely with my guests and expect nothing in return. When I go to their house I bring enough homebrew to share. When I attend a party I'm the guy who shows up with a keg or two. When my club has an event they can always count on me to bring a keg. I don't keep score and never expect anything in return. I brew often and always have a steady supply so I share what I can. Homebrewers are kind, generous, and cool.

+1

I live by the "Give more than you take" philosophy...  I have plenty of homebrew to share.  If not, or I am too far from home to bring some, I'll stop, support a local brewer, and pick up a few growler's to share.  I've even started bottling again just to have a supply to travel with.  The best part is when a newbie may for their very first time have that "Ahhhhhhhhhh" moment while having quaff or or two.  Then I have the satisfaction of helping to create another craft beer junkie!


Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: klickitat jim on November 28, 2013, 04:47:31 PM
This thread reminds me of Lucy asking Linus to play jingle bells... you know ho ho ho, and mistletoe, and presents for pretty girls?  That's it!

But our beer geek side reminds me of her saying that she never eats December snow flakes.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: yso191 on November 28, 2013, 05:45:45 PM
The only beer I don't like to share is when my homebrew doesn't turn out like I wanted it to.  Honestly sharing or giving away what I brew is one of the top three reasons I brew (recipe design & the science of brewing are the other two).

That and like someone above said, I brew enough that I have to give some away.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: AmandaK on November 28, 2013, 06:41:57 PM
The only beer I don't like to share is when my homebrew doesn't turn out like I wanted it to.  Honestly sharing or giving away what I brew is one of the top three reasons I brew (recipe design & the science of brewing are the other two).

That and like someone above said, I brew enough that I have to give some away.

This is my modus operandi as well. Except for right now, I haven't brewed in two months because of the move and even I'm not drinking any homebrew cause I'm out! :o I'm stuck drinking Negronis until further notice.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: ynotbrusum on November 28, 2013, 06:43:35 PM
Thankfully most people who like beer like most of my homebrews.  I gladly share all I have, because I always need to make room for the next batch.  Brewing is not for everyone, but with those who brew, I enjoy a better conversation than simply hearing someone try to describe what they know little about... Or simply try to match my beer to a commercial brand.  But in the end I am glad to enlighten their palate with something homemade.  If I brewed much less, I might feel more protective about the beers I make, but luckily I can afford to give it away quite freely
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: klickitat jim on November 28, 2013, 07:07:29 PM
My brew is on the verge of being something I'm proud of. I like sharing more when it's pretty stellar. Most of the folks I share with are somewhat beer savy. But I have a few that still think bmc is the only thing they can drink. Not sure I'll ever change them. Oh well
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: ynotbrusum on November 28, 2013, 07:32:30 PM
As to trying something new - I always say that as a kid in the candy store, I never chose just one kind of candy to buy!  Why do that with beer?
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: micah h on November 28, 2013, 08:44:33 PM
I wish I had more people to drink my brew with. The jalapeno brew put me on a long halt to my brewing, I hated it. A lot of my friends said they liked it, but no one would take any from me. Finnaly my dad tried it and asked if he could have a few bottles. I gave him the whole case and now my fridge is ready for a batch to be put in.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: morticaixavier on November 28, 2013, 08:52:52 PM
If I am giving it is to give. If I want something in return that is a trade, and if after a reasonable amount of time the other party doesn't get the hint, I either stop trading or Speak up.

Sounds like you don't really want to be sharing and you also don't really want to stop trading. if it's fun for you to to share the fruits of your hobby but yo uare feeling put upon you should maybe speak up. Just keep it casual and say something.

You mentioned that your town does not have the same variety as his does, perhaps an inquiry about a particular beer your interested in.

Clear up your relationship: "Hey, I'd love to trade a couple bottles of that homebrew you really liked for a sixer of goose Island", "Sure, yeah that'd be cool".

Might be all it takes.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: klickitat jim on November 28, 2013, 09:14:09 PM
Put a fancy personalized label on your homebrew including a "suggested retail price" . Maybe it won't seem so free then.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: dkfick on November 29, 2013, 04:44:03 AM
I agree that I freely give away homebrew.  I usually have way way way more than I can ever drink so I give it away to any and all lol.  Most of my friends are 'beer friends' and don't show up empty handed.  Some that do I don't mind.  Honestly if it was always beer for beer I would then be stuck in the too much beer camp even further... So it's good it's usually only a bottle or 2 when people come over... and they get multiple pints in return.... or just multiple pints for free... Either way I'm good.

As for your particular situation I would probably just say something 'jokingly' about how you always give them beer and they never bring you any beers.  I think most people know there is that twinge of truth in jokes and they will get the hint... I guess if they didn't get the hint and I really cared I would just tell them... "Hey bring some craft beer when you visit."
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: udubdawg on November 29, 2013, 01:35:21 PM
In the past I've designated certain homebrew as "not ready" regardless of whether that was true, to keep visitors from cleaning me out. 

But that was when I had only 2-3 homebrews in the house at any one time.  These days I drink about 1 beer most days and make about 3.5 gallons a week.  The math doesn't work out unless it is being given away or dumped when it starts to get old.

I get where the OP is coming from, but I think he's created a lot of it.  "it is always up to me to serve beer"  and "they expect me to bring homebrew or store bought beer."
I doubt that the family declared that he was the only person who can bring beer and if he doesn't bring something one time maybe they'll stop expecting it.  As the "beer expert" they probably just think his choices will be better and need to be coaxed to purchase a bit of it themselves.  Show interest in what they bring, mention some other good choices, and encourage them to do it again. 

Basically, instead of being the Beer Guy, just be the Homebrew Guy, who supplements the beer others bring with homebrew if he's got any to share.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: corkybstewart on November 29, 2013, 05:25:05 PM
Anybody who comes to my house is welcome to as much of almost anything I have on tap as they can handle.  But before I let people pull a pint of a specialty beer like a rauchbier or something sour I give them a 4 oz taster glass.  I do get irritated at glasses half full of those beers sitting on the counter attracting flies.
I don't bottle beer so i rarely take homebrew to parties(I take my own storebought stuff to share) and I don't let people fill growlers to take home-if I'm not good enough to drink WITH my beer is too good for you.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: mugwort on November 29, 2013, 10:41:41 PM
Anybody who comes to my house is welcome to as much of almost anything I have on tap as they can handle.  But before I let people pull a pint of a specialty beer like a rauchbier or something sour I give them a 4 oz taster glass.

Here's to hooking up the right amount for the right person.  Sometimes gotta play matchmaker/cicerone to avoid waste of our precious creations.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: HoosierBrew on November 29, 2013, 11:11:28 PM
Anybody who comes to my house is welcome to as much of almost anything I have on tap as they can handle.  But before I let people pull a pint of a specialty beer like a rauchbier or something sour I give them a 4 oz taster glass.

Here's to hooking up the right amount for the right person.  Sometimes gotta play matchmaker/cicerone to avoid waste of our precious creations.

+1.  Yeah, I love to share my beer with people but I definitely try to serve the right beers to the right crowd.  I don't have too many people over who are die hard BMC drinkers, but I would try to steer them to a pale ale, cream ale or kolsch over one of my quads or a wee heavy for sure.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: kramerog on November 29, 2013, 11:16:30 PM
I try to trade stuff with them.  I got a neighbor who is always smoking meats so we like to exchange beer for meat.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: gmac on November 29, 2013, 11:56:30 PM
I give to whoever wants it. 
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: BrewArk on November 30, 2013, 12:10:56 AM
I am happy to share w/anyone that wants to drink my HB.  I brew way more than I "should" drink.  I'm usually critical of what I brew and am continuously surprised when people lay on the praise for my brews.  Which is why I'm slow to be in clubs and such.  I'd be an awful judge, and am slow to compliment others on sometimes very good beers.

I have a buddy that works in food product development.  He always turns me on to his "expired" fermentables.  I try to make enough beer and mead to keep him stocked for sure.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: yugamrap on December 01, 2013, 03:13:55 AM
In my family we were taught that it's rude to go to someone's house as a guest without bringing something to show one's appreciation.  That can be almost anything.  When I know it would be appreciated, I bring along a growler of homebrew.  Sometimes, I bring along something unusual for others to try if they're interested.  I recently made a trip to Wisconsin and brought back some nice New Glarus fruited sours.  I took those with me to Thanksgiving dinner at my Aunt's house and shared them.  It was interesting because some of the family hadn't had a sour or fruited beer before, but really liked what I brought.

If your guests don't bring beer you find satisfying, maybe you could suggest they bring something else to go with your beers.  Maybe there is something they cook that you like and could ask them to bring.  My wife and I have a friend who almost always brings guacamole, which is fine because she makes it fresh and has a great recipe.  Sometimes she just brings the ingredients along and prepares it when she arrives.

When it comes to my guests who aren't so sure about homebrew, I have sampler trays I built that each hold four 3-oz glasses.  I usually have four beers on tap so, when someone new comes by I offer them a sampler of whatever is on tap then let them decide whether they'd like a full pour of something.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: ynotbrusum on December 01, 2013, 12:45:49 PM
I do the same with growlers - a great way to show appreciation for being invited over.  I have sampler glasses and moved to 10 oz nonic style glasses for my standard house sized "full pours".  It works better than having full shaker pints or larger as the standard size.  It helps moderate some of the guzzlers - though only slightly for the zealous beer suckers. 

Either way it is of no mind of mine...I have actually now started having empty keg anxiety - waiting for a keg to empty, so I Candace a place to rack to, so I can free up a fermenter and brew again!  That is a huge change of mindset, especially when I have over 15 cornies and growing....don't tell my wife :o
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: Slowbrew on December 01, 2013, 01:10:38 PM
I have always asked, when invited to someone's home, I ask "what can we bring?".  More often than not the answer is "you don't need to bring anything".  I normally bring a couple of bottles of wine anyway (one to serve at the gathering and a special one as a thank you).

When I have invited people to my home for an evening, weekend or a week I fully expect to supply all the food and drink necessary for the time frame they are staying.  If they invite themselves then some of it is on them.

What really bugs me is when people come our Oktoberfest carrying a 12 pack of BMC and then leave it in my beer fridge at the end of the night.  I typically have 5 beers on tap in a wide range of flavors and these folks won't even take a taste of any of my beers.  That is frustrating.  One year I actually  keptthe 5 left over Coors Light cans in the fridge for a year and served them to these folks at the next O-fest.  It was for naught thou.  The never even noticed it was 12 months old.

I can see your frustration if people are over a couple times a month but in my case, folks only come a couple times a year and I'm happy to share.

Paul
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: reverseapachemaster on December 01, 2013, 05:47:25 PM
I don't mind sharing my homebrew with people who will appreciate it. I do get a lot of people who ask to try/bring/give them beer and sometimes it is borderline demanding free beer. Like my wife and I are expected to bring free beer anywhere we go. I brew a wide variety of beer so not only do I get the request for beer but also to bring a whole variety pack. There's a lot of, "I should have told you to bring some of that homebrew beer." Told me. Not asked me.

I know with my friends it doesn't come from a place of being selfish or rude. They wouldn't be my friends if I believed that. They are just interested in trying out the beers and it comes across in the wrong way. Like since I make it at home it's just free and for some reason if it's beer there's an unlimited free supply. I have friends that do other things at home or cook dinner. I never tell them to make me a steak before they come over. It's just sort of a weird dynamic. My friends are generous in other ways so I overlook the way it is requested. They also don't push if I tell them I don't have anything to share at that time.

However, people who are not my friends or family don't get that grace. My wife's coworkers occasionally request beer from us. I am friends with some and they are welcome to my beer but guys I've never met have no entitlement to my beer. I'm not sending my wife with six packs of beers to people I don't know. They want to come try my beers then they should ask to hang out with me and have some beer. We're not running a free beer delivery service.

Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: jeffy on December 01, 2013, 07:10:59 PM
Good Points, ram.  I like to share my beer, but I don't feel like giving it all away.  Some of my friends seem to think, as you mentioned, that we as homebrewers have an unlimited free supply of beer.  It makes me think of the ad that Charlie has in Zymurgy - this is my homebrew, make your own.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: klickitat jim on December 01, 2013, 08:35:44 PM
My old man got three bombers from me for his 90th. Someone asked me where's mine? In my most sincere sounding voice I replied, I didn't know you wanted some.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: chinaski on December 02, 2013, 02:15:07 AM
I have always asked, when invited to someone's home, I ask "what can we bring?".  More often than not the answer is "you don't need to bring anything".  I normally bring a couple of bottles of wine anyway (one to serve at the gathering and a special one as a thank you).

I generally go this route too.  If I'm going to host, I'm going to host and do it up right.  I thank people for bringing stuff to share but don't expect it.  By the same token, I'll bring a growler or two with me to a dinner party or bbq because I'm proud of my beer and like sharing it.  I'm always puzzled when folks show up to things with beer and don't share it- sets an awkward tone in my book.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: thirsty on December 02, 2013, 03:52:12 PM
If people don't want to drink my amazing beer, it's ok with me. That just means more for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: Joe Sr. on December 02, 2013, 04:42:14 PM
They'd drink cat piss if it were in a Yuengling bottle, tho.

I thought they did put cat piss in Yuengling bottles.

As far as sharing homebrew, I rarely take it to family gatherings as it is not much appreciated there.  I'm happy to bring it to parties where it is requested and guests at our house are welcome to drink it if they like, or not. 
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: djsanta on December 02, 2013, 06:30:03 PM
The two taps at my house are open to all guests.  If I know they have a less discerning palate or only like certain styles I'll pour a taster first...like others I hate to see a half full pint sitting around at the end of the night.  My friends know I homebrew, but they also know my style selection is continually rotating, so if they want something specific they bring it.

As far as parties...I often bring homebrew, but usually just for me.  Most people (casual beer drinkers, not craft beer enthusiasts) will stick to what they know, be it BMC, Shocktop, or Sam Adams.  They often like my homebrew, but are satisfied with drinking the same old thing.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: blatz on December 02, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
I share my brews pretty freely because I brew alot more than I can drink.  Luckily I have plenty of beer geek friends and family members who appreciate craft beer - but the first guy who threw out the condescending yeast infection cracks would get damn sure cut off, and free to drink his Miller Lite (or whatever).

i'm in the same boat.  I brew way too much, though I do drink my fair share, and I'm always happy to bring to people who appreciate it.

I often use it as an opportunity to 'kill the keg' so i can get the next batch up on tap.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: AmandaK on December 03, 2013, 01:32:13 PM

I often use it as an opportunity to 'kill the keg' so i can get the next batch up on tap.

Don't tell them, but I use my friends for this all the time. I don't think they really mind though... ;D
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: beersk on December 03, 2013, 03:56:09 PM

I often use it as an opportunity to 'kill the keg' so i can get the next batch up on tap.

Don't tell them, but I use my friends for this all the time. I don't think they really mind though... ;D
Same here. I don't brew more than I can drink, I try to match my consumption rate. I've found 3.5 gallon batches (3 in the keg) is about perfect for having 3 taps last about 3-5 weeks each. Since I'm mainly the only person drinking my beer with the occasional friend stopping over or my girlfriend has a little here and there, I don't need to brew as big of batch sizes.
Anyway, I like sharing my beer. In fact, I get a little offended if I bring beer to a gathering and no one drinks it. It especially upsets me when I bring beer to parties on my dad's side of the family and my dad doesn't ask about my beer and I have to ask him if he wants any.
But like most people here, if someone wants to come over and have a couple pints, I'm cool with that. I'd see it as a compliment to my beer if people were requesting that I bring beer to parties and whatnot. Doesn't mean you have to. Why all the rules?
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: hubie on December 03, 2013, 04:32:05 PM
If you are expected to be the "beer guy", that could also just be a reflection of the fact that they recognize your love and passion for beer and gladly defer the beer choice to your expertise, much the same way that one would let their wine snob friend or relative choose the wine at a restaurant.  However, if it is purely a one-sided affair in that they don't bring anything (food, wine, flowers, etc.) when they visit, but expect it of you, then that is an issue of manners, not homebrew.

I love to share my beer with those who really seem to enjoy it, but I never push it on anyone.  I secretly fear being the person who always gifts you with the unwanted fruitcake that you end up throwing out.  However, at my old job the company would have a summer picnic and I was volunteered to handle the beer.  I brought two cases, one commercial and one of mine.  In the commercial case I mixed it up with the usual crowd pleasers: Corona, etc.  Mine was 12 Irish reds and 12 blondes.  At the end of the picnic there were only two of my beers left and only two commercial beers consumed, so that made me feel pretty good.  Since my Dad passed, I'm about the only person who drinks my beer so it is rare that I get any feedback on it.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: tcanova on December 04, 2013, 07:50:12 PM
I provide homebrew to anyone who comes over, if they want it.  I also take my kegs to parties if it is okay with party givers. 

I recently received a $100.00 gift certificate for my LHBS from a group of friends with a note attached thanking me for the beer.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: Joe Sr. on December 04, 2013, 07:52:11 PM
I recently received a $100.00 gift certificate for my LHBS from a group of friends with a note attached thanking me for the beer.

I've gotten those.  Those people get a mixed case at Christmas.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: thebigbaker on December 04, 2013, 08:20:53 PM

I often use it as an opportunity to 'kill the keg' so i can get the next batch up on tap.

Don't tell them, but I use my friends for this all the time. I don't think they really mind though... ;D

Same here.  I will actually tell them I need space in the kegerator for another beer and they are happy to help! 
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: corkybstewart on December 04, 2013, 10:06:11 PM
I had an employee show up at my house one afternoon while I was brewing.  The first thing he noticed were my 6 taps and his comment was that he wished he had come to my house first with a few growlers instead of going to the beer store.  I politely but firmly told him I would love to teach him to brew so he could enjoy the fruits of a few 6-8 hour brewdays but homebrewed doesn't mean free.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: micsager on December 04, 2013, 10:11:39 PM
I'm dealing with this same issue.  I've always got home brew and regional craft beers (Red Hook) at the house.  And when family comes over, I always get a half-rack of a BMC beer, because I know that's what my two son-in-laws drink at there own home.  The problem is they always grab a Red Hook, or a pour off the kegerator. 

And when I go to their house, all they offer me is Icehouse.  And if I bring my own Red Hook, they start drinking that. 

For the Seahawk game this past Monday night, I hid the Redhook in one of my keg storage keezers.  And I just went on got one for myself when I wanted one.  I think they are starting to "get the message."
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: Joe Sr. on December 04, 2013, 10:15:29 PM
And when I go to their house, all they offer me is Icehouse.  And if I bring my own Red Hook, they start drinking that. 

That qualifies for a "hey! WTF!"

Direct action sometimes needs to be taken.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: micsager on December 04, 2013, 10:17:33 PM
And when I go to their house, all they offer me is Icehouse.  And if I bring my own Red Hook, they start drinking that. 

That qualifies for a "hey! WTF!"

Direct action sometimes needs to be taken.

LOL, I prefer "Come on, man" and then I say "no thanks, you got any milk"."

Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: HoosierBrew on December 04, 2013, 10:39:50 PM

I often use it as an opportunity to 'kill the keg' so i can get the next batch up on tap.

Don't tell them, but I use my friends for this all the time. I don't think they really mind though... ;D

Same here.  I will actually tell them I need space in the kegerator for another beer and they are happy to help! 

Same here. Never a shortage of people to empty a keg so I can put something else on.  I couldn't brew as often without it !  I've gotten gift certificates for my LHBS too. Love that .    :)
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: weithman5 on December 04, 2013, 11:09:30 PM
you could just have a tap with something horrible in it and hide the good homebrew. 
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: bunderbunder on December 05, 2013, 12:04:05 AM
you could just have a tap with something horrible in it and hide the good homebrew.

I call that my "cream ale" tap.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: majorvices on December 05, 2013, 01:27:51 AM
I recently received a $100.00 gift certificate for my LHBS from a group of friends with a note attached thanking me for the beer.

I gotta say: You have cool friends!
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: AmandaK on December 05, 2013, 01:04:10 PM
  The first thing he noticed were my 6 taps and his comment was that he wished he had come to my house first with a few growlers instead of going to the beer store. 

That's just rude. Or as my mom would say, "tacky"

What if he had said the same thing about something else? Maybe he takes a look in your fridge and remarks that he should have just taken the food out of your fridge instead of going to the grocery store. No one would do that.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: HoosierBrew on December 05, 2013, 01:12:43 PM
  The first thing he noticed were my 6 taps and his comment was that he wished he had come to my house first with a few growlers instead of going to the beer store. 

That's just rude. Or as my mom would say, "tacky"

What if he had said the same thing about something else? Maybe he takes a look in your fridge and remarks that he should have just taken the food out of your fridge instead of going to the grocery store. No one would do that.

+1.  I reward good behavior with homebrew, not bad.  That's pretty lame (and "tacky") !
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: Jimmy K on December 05, 2013, 02:51:46 PM
And when I go to their house, all they offer me is Icehouse.  And if I bring my own Red Hook, they start drinking that. 

That qualifies for a "hey! WTF!"

Direct action sometimes needs to be taken.

LOL, I prefer "Come on, man" and then I say "no thanks, you got any milk"."
or "I brought my own" and pull out a bottle of water.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: majorvices on December 05, 2013, 03:24:18 PM
  The first thing he noticed were my 6 taps and his comment was that he wished he had come to my house first with a few growlers instead of going to the beer store. 

That's just rude. Or as my mom would say, "tacky"

What if he had said the same thing about something else? Maybe he takes a look in your fridge and remarks that he should have just taken the food out of your fridge instead of going to the grocery store. No one would do that.

Or maybe he just meant he would have brought growlers and offered to pay for the homebrew, which would be a compliment.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: beersk on December 05, 2013, 04:34:12 PM
And when I go to their house, all they offer me is Icehouse.  And if I bring my own Red Hook, they start drinking that. 

That qualifies for a "hey! WTF!"

Direct action sometimes needs to be taken.

LOL, I prefer "Come on, man" and then I say "no thanks, you got any milk"."


"I have your car towed all the way to your house and all you've got for me is *lite* beer?" Biff Tannen

Haha. That's lame. I don't mind giving people samples and pints when they come over. But I don't really want to be giving people growler fills at will. Unless it's beer I want to get rid of.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: denny on December 05, 2013, 04:37:31 PM
My solution is to live so far from other people that there's no one around to drink my beer.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: euge on December 05, 2013, 04:53:50 PM
I hid my 22oz glasses from a friend who will drink a gallon+ in a sitting. Greedy greedy. Then he complains when I go to his house and neglect to pick up some beer on the way. And he never brings anything.

Truth is I really don't care about the beer- the audacity though, that cheeses me totally. There have been times when I've said "not ready yet" even though it's already in the kegorator... But, ultimately this is a friend of over thirty years and when he likes a particular batch I'm like knock yerself out dude...

Gives me the opportunity to brew more cause I can't drink it all myself. I've tried. Lord knows I've tried...
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: micsager on December 05, 2013, 05:05:27 PM
I think that's the key. 

Most of us have no problem sharing our beer.  In fact, we love it.

But, when it becomes very one sided, even the most generous of folks will get a little irritated.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: klickitat jim on December 05, 2013, 05:19:38 PM
My solution is to live so far from other people that there's no one around to drink my beer.

Bingo!!!
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: dflittle on December 05, 2013, 06:12:28 PM
I don't brew enough, yet, to have this particular problem!
However, I've done BBQ Competitions, catering, workshops, etc. and I spend a lot of time cooking for others at home, church, etc. and it seems I never get any reciprocation! Fortunately, it only bothers me when I'm feeling down on myself (not too often), but homebrewing isn't the only much appreciated, never returned "hobby" around. Just sayin'  8)
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: beersk on December 05, 2013, 06:54:57 PM


Truth is I really don't care about the beer- the audacity though, that cheeses me totally.
Agree with that. Beer will always be there, you can brew more, that's not the problem. It's people taking advantage and taking you for granted that isn't okay.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: corkybstewart on December 05, 2013, 07:32:51 PM
  The first thing he noticed were my 6 taps and his comment was that he wished he had come to my house first with a few growlers instead of going to the beer store. 

That's just rude. Or as my mom would say, "tacky"

Are you from the South?  The employee is so he would have understood "tacky"
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: AmandaK on December 05, 2013, 07:33:40 PM


Truth is I really don't care about the beer- the audacity though, that cheeses me totally.
Agree with that. Beer will always be there, you can brew more, that's not the problem. It's people taking advantage and taking you for granted that isn't okay.

Something my dad taught me was to never hang around people who take advantage of you. Perhaps that's why I don't have the OP's problem... hmm. 
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: tschmidlin on December 05, 2013, 08:03:28 PM
  The first thing he noticed were my 6 taps and his comment was that he wished he had come to my house first with a few growlers instead of going to the beer store. 

That's just rude. Or as my mom would say, "tacky"

What if he had said the same thing about something else? Maybe he takes a look in your fridge and remarks that he should have just taken the food out of your fridge instead of going to the grocery store. No one would do that.

Or maybe he just meant he would have brought growlers and offered to pay for the homebrew, which would be a compliment.
Or it could have been a joke that just fell flat.

My solution is to live so far from other people that there's no one around to drink my beer.
Bingo!!!
One of these days I'm going to knock on all three doors in your town until I find you.  That goes for both of you.   ;)
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: el_capitan on December 07, 2013, 02:31:59 AM
... homebrewing isn't the only much appreciated, never returned "hobby" around. Just sayin'  8)

Ha!  I'm pickin' up what you're puttin' down...
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: quest4watneys on December 08, 2013, 02:25:31 AM
My in-laws mock my homebrew and make yeast infection jokes.  They'd drink cat piss if it were in a Yuengling bottle, tho.  It used to bother me, but now I realize they're not worthy.  I never bring homebrew to family events.

That's funny! Are we related?!?

I'd love to share my homebrew but in my entire circle of family/friends/strangers/vagrants, there are precisely two people who appreciate homebrew. The rest think there's something wrong with it if it doesn't taste like (insert commercial brew here)_______ Light/Lite  :-\
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: Barleypopmaker_ on December 08, 2013, 03:46:13 AM
I have an open fridge policy. Anything on tap is fair game, after I all I brew for the enjoyment of the hobby and don't horde my homebrew. However I have strict rules about bottles. Because I save some bigger beers for special occasions I make it clear that the beers in the door are off limits. The good thing is, people who are not familiar with beer tend to leave them alone because they fear the unknown. People who are well versed in beer totally understand and respect my rule. However if it ever became expected that I bring beer, or bring good beer to someone elses event. That would be a different story all together. If I'm coming to your event, I'll bring some homebrew. But don't expect me to bring a case of craft beer while you serve up some bud light.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: dls5492 on December 08, 2013, 03:20:01 PM
I, too, have an open fridge policy. I don't mind bringing home brew, and home made wine, to parties and special occasions. If someone takes advantage, it reveals to me a lot about them.

Every man according as he purposes in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loves a cheerful giver.  II Corinthians 9:7
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: majorvices on December 08, 2013, 03:52:01 PM
A few years ago I had some very delicious alt on tap. My wife invited some folks to Thanksgiving dinner that year that she knew from work. She was trying to be nice. I poured the husband an alt and he told me how great it was and I told him to "help himself" and he proceeded to attempt to kick the keg himself, getting fairly smashed at Thanksgiving dinner. I honestly think he drank close to half the keg himself - he was a big guy.

Thing is, I don't think these people think about draft beer the same as bottled beer. Had I put a six pack in the fridge he may have had three and then held back. But give people who are not familiar to draft beer access to a keg and many of them approach it as if it is a water fountain flowing with never ending free beer.

I never did cut the guy off, just let him have at it but I never invited him back and I was thankful that it was a 10 gallon batch and that I had another keg in reserve.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: HoosierBrew on December 08, 2013, 04:02:52 PM
+1.  I've noticed the exact same thing for years.  My circle of friends are pretty good about bringing over good craft beer to share along with my beers (though it's not expected), but ever so often a guy turns up that thinks he's at a frat party chugging from the bong. Those guys don't get invited back either !
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: Jeff M on December 08, 2013, 05:29:46 PM
Wow i must be lucky.  My friends never ask for beer, we just bring it along if its available.  All of them compliment it and love it but its a lot more potent then they are used to and tread lightly around our 9-10% beers.  That being said the secondary circle of family are complete asses about it and expect it upon demand.  they are of course snotty rich jerks thats dont get much;)

To the OP.  You are always allowed to say "i dont have anything available".  Maybe after doing this 5-6 times he will catch on.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: yeastmaster on December 11, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
I share freely with my guests and expect nothing in return. When I go to their house I bring enough homebrew to share. When I attend a party I'm the guy who shows up with a keg or two. When my club has an event they can always count on me to bring a keg. I don't keep score and never expect anything in return. I brew often and always have a steady supply so I share what I can. Homebrewers are kind, generous, and cool.

I few weeks ago I sort of crashed a party, but since I brought a keg of homebrew I was pretty well recieved!   ;D
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: Jimmy K on December 11, 2013, 09:05:51 PM
Funny how this works. Imagine if you were a cattle farmer. Would you be always be expected to bring the brisket?
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: micsager on December 11, 2013, 09:09:59 PM
Funny how this works. Imagine if you were a cattle farmer. Would you be always be expected to bring the brisket?
Interesting analogy.  My uncle IS a cattle rancher.  And, he brings plenty of beef for our annual family reunion. 

hmmmmmm.
Title: Re: Dealing With Non-Homebrewers
Post by: ynotbrusum on December 11, 2013, 09:46:31 PM
I, too, have an open fridge policy. I don't mind bringing home brew, and home made wine, to parties and special occasions. If someone takes advantage, it reveals to me a lot about them.

Every man according as he purposes in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loves a cheerful giver.  II Corinthians 9:7

I have used this verse for my view of life, generally (I like a lot of St. Paul's works).  It boils down to 5 words: Serve with a glad heart.  I repeat that to others who begrudgingly volunteer time, then gripe while helping.

So, now I have the perfect analogy for my garage brewhaus:  "Brew with a glad heart".  Thanks for tipping me to that phrase!  I think I'm gonna look into doing a t-shirt with that on it.