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Title: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: pinnah on March 22, 2010, 04:44:53 PM
I love the hard boiled egg, but hate a hard to peel, messy egg.

Are there any proven cooking methods that make the shell easy and clean to remove?

What do you know?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: tubercle on March 22, 2010, 04:48:57 PM
Fresher the egg, easier to peel.
Tablespoon of vinegar added to the boil.
Peel under running water.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: abraxas on March 22, 2010, 04:57:38 PM
The older the egg, the easier to peel.

Boil three minutes, pull off heat and let sit covered for 8 minutes, then dunk in ice water.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: theDarkSide on March 22, 2010, 05:07:06 PM
I just cover the eggs in water and put on the stove.  When it gets boiling, remove from heat, cover, and let sit for 20-25 minutes.  Then I let them cool for a bit before putting them in the frdige.  Never had a problem with it except that I hate the things. But I do this for the wife.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: theDarkSide on March 22, 2010, 05:08:04 PM
and if you use the egg carton to store them in, make sure you mark it Hard Boiled... ;D.  You don't want to get them mixed up.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: dbeechum on March 22, 2010, 05:08:31 PM
Well that just confusing didn't it?  ;D

In my experience I've had better luck with older eggs due to a weaker membrane.

My method - Eggs into cold water.  Bring to a boil. Turn off heat and cover for 15 minutes.

Although I'd really love to have one of those immersion circulators so you could really set the temperature of the egg and get the perfect just set egg.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: euge on March 22, 2010, 05:12:14 PM
One has to pierce a small hole in the wide end to allow for the expansion. You'll never have cracked eggs if this is done.

Cool quickly and they are easy to peel.

Vinegar does absolutely nothing AFAIC.

I like my still a little soft in the yolk- yum!
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: tubercle on March 22, 2010, 05:35:09 PM
The older the egg, the easier to peel.

 I stand corrected :P Ms. Tubercle has already admonished me for this...she's the chief egg boiler. I knew it was one or the other.



Vinegar does absolutely nothing AFAIC.


 Again - according to Ms.Tubercle - the vinegar softens the shells to keep them from cracking making them easier to peel in larger chunks and not having those pesky little shards.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: babalu87 on March 22, 2010, 05:40:01 PM
Yeah definately the older the egg the easier the peel.
When eggs are just laid there is a tiny airspace, that airspace gets larger with time making the peeling process easier.

We originally got chickens because I tired of my over easy eggs having broken yolks
We then realized that fresh eggs are impossible to peel.
No worries, the ones sitting on the counter for near a week or those in the bottom of the fridge get turned into pickeld eggs/egg salad now  ;D

FWIW
"Fresh" Eggs at your local supermarket can be a month old
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: euge on March 22, 2010, 06:09:50 PM
Hmm. I grew up eating loads of hard-boiled eggs. I'd watch my dear old mom and chef-extraordinaire boil eggs. She'd add vinegar to the water and I'd ask why. "To keep them from cracking son..."

Invariably, 3-4 would be cracked.  ???

Once it was understood why eggs crack in the boil I never added vinegar again.

As to cooking times it varies if the eggs are still cold or at room temp. I prefer room temp.

No sweat though. Just eggs...



Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: nicneufeld on March 22, 2010, 06:51:09 PM
Euge, its kind of funny but I can't help but "hear" your posts in an Eli Wallach voice, thanks to your avatar.

"There are two kinds of hard boiled eggs, my friend. Those that come in by the door, and those that come in by the window."
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: euge on March 22, 2010, 07:03:53 PM
LOL  :D
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: capozzoli on March 22, 2010, 09:50:36 PM
The drop of vinegar works great for poached eggs. A drop in the boiling water before you crack the egg in there. Not sure what happens to make it work but it keeps the egg more intact in the water.

I knew this woman years ago, she could put a hard boiled egg in her mouth and then spit it out peeled. Man, I should have married her.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: abraxas on March 22, 2010, 10:08:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN2gYHJNT3Y

I tried it once and couldn't get it to work.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: glitterbug on March 22, 2010, 10:11:54 PM
The drop of vinegar works great for poached eggs. A drop in the boiling water before you crack the egg in there. Not sure what happens to make it work but it keeps the egg more intact in the water.

I knew this woman years ago, she could put a hard boiled egg in her mouth and then spit it out peeled. Man, I should have married her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmxhuTe84lg
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: hopfen on March 22, 2010, 11:34:51 PM
I have no idea what this is doing on a brewing forum, but I can't resist replying.
There is a tried and true method for hard boiled eggs, and I've used it for years. Here it is:

Put the eggs in a pan, but use only enough to make a single layer of eggs on the bottom of the pan. Add enough water to cover the eggs, about one inch above the tops of the eggs. Bring the water to a boil, as fast as possible.

Once the water has reached a boil, remove the pan from the heat and cover it. Let it sit for ten minutes.

While waiting for the ten minutes to elapse, fill a big bowl with ice water (plenty of ice cubes). Use a slotted spoon to transfer each egg gently from the hot water to the ice water, and let them sit for five minutes.

There! You have perfect hard boiled eggs. To peel them, tap the egg all over on the counter to crack the shell, then roll it gently back and forth a few times. Begin peeling from the air pocket (the large end), and you can generally take the entire shell off in one or two pieces.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: pinnah on March 23, 2010, 03:14:09 AM
Excellent, thanks for all the tips.

I think perhaps fresh eggs are my main problem,
typically next day straight from the cluckers out back

I will try to let some sit around a while.
How long do eggs last?


I have no idea what this is doing on a brewing forum, but I can't resist replying.

 ;D Thanks for the informative reply,
one thing that amazes me about the diverse group of folks that call them selves homebrewers....they sure know about lots of stuff!

You know...like how to boil an egg! ;)

Cheers.

Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: abraxas on March 23, 2010, 04:29:22 AM
Hmmm... seems like everybody is forgetting the most important step.  After you cool and peel the eggs you need to pickle them:
http://motherskitchen.blogspot.com/2006/04/pickled-eggs.html

I was just up in Houghton this last weekend visiting friends and very much overindulged in pickled eggs making for a very unpleasant Sunday morning.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: BrewArk on March 23, 2010, 04:41:26 AM
Don't boil the eggs in beer.  Drink the beer.  Drink more beer, forget about the eggs.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: nicneufeld on March 23, 2010, 01:20:09 PM
Don't boil the eggs in beer.  Drink the beer.  Drink more beer, forget about the eggs.

Dude, what are the odds you came up with my secret recipe independently!   :o
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: majorvices on March 23, 2010, 01:59:37 PM
I have no idea what this is doing on a brewing forum, but I can't resist replying.

Pretty simple, really. This is a homebrewing forum and many homebrewers also love to cook! Get this, too: you are in the Food Recipe (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?board=20.0) part of the Food and Cooking section of the forum.  ;)
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: theDarkSide on March 23, 2010, 02:06:40 PM
I thought it was funny yesterday when I received my Tech Talk email and saw in the section below where it shows the last few posts in the New AHA Forum, and 1 was about beer and the rest were about hard boiled eggs :)
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: boulderbrewer on March 23, 2010, 02:15:50 PM
What we started doing is steaming the eggs, even the fresh laid eggs peel pretty easily. Get a vegetable steamer basket in a pot, fill to just below the basket and steam the eggs from 15 to 20 minutes. Cool them in ice water. We can get a clean peel from most eggs even the ones that were still warm from being laid.

Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: pinnah on March 23, 2010, 03:55:51 PM
What we started doing is steaming the eggs, even the fresh laid eggs peel pretty easily.

Hey, that sounds like a winner!  Do they come out firm like a regular hard boiled egg?
Few things to me are as nasty as uncooked egg white...yacko.


Hmmm... seems like everybody is forgetting the most important step.  After you cool and peel the eggs you need to pickle them:
http://motherskitchen.blogspot.com/2006/04/pickled-eggs.html

 :D, Anyone know how long pickled eggs last in the fridge? 
I am fixing to be overrun with too many eggs, and a way to preserve them sounds good.  I bet they would go well with my own cheap yella beer! ;D
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: boulderbrewer on March 23, 2010, 04:44:24 PM
Depending on your altitude steam time will vary. But they are hard boiled. Soft boiled are good with toast cut into "sticks" for dipping. When we get overrun and don't have buyers for them they head off to the local food pantry. We are getting close to a dozen a day now!
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: euge on March 23, 2010, 05:52:45 PM
Always found that a good thorough chill in ice-water makes them easy to peel not the age of the egg.

I've done them in the pressure cooker too. Raised up on a trivet they are steamed.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: boulderbrewer on March 23, 2010, 11:25:50 PM
To get this to work you need to get the water boiling before you add the eggs.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: majorvices on March 26, 2010, 05:08:02 PM
Well, after a week of trying the advice offered here about adding the eggs to cold water, bringing them to a boil and letting them sit for a few minutes then dunking them in ice water I went back to my old method - bringing a small pot of water to a boil and adding them slowly to the boiling water and boiling them for 10-12 minutes, then cooling them in an ice water bath. For me, the latter way just let them peel a lot easier. I could never get a clean peel with the other method. :-\
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: euge on March 26, 2010, 06:19:56 PM
And I just bought me some Jumbo Brown's...

I'm gonna use 6 for Migas and the others get boiled.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: Slowbrew on March 26, 2010, 08:11:24 PM
I can't make any claims to this but my Mom always insisted on fresh, non-oiled eggs for hard boiling.  I would guess this had more to do with the shell taking die for Easter Eggs but you never really know.

We got our eggs from another family family down the road.  They raised their own hens, we milked cows.  Fresh milk makes great oyster stew at Christmas, fresh eggs make food better all year long.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: boulderbrewer on March 27, 2010, 03:23:09 AM
Steaming works well with fresh eggs but it is not perfect. I still have problems with about a quarter of them the others peel really well. My eggs usually are less than a week from being laid. Boilingthe eggs, I need to save eggs to be at least three weeks old to get the same results. Ice water at the end is a must in either way you do your eggs.

Any of you guys do duck eggs?
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: capozzoli on March 27, 2010, 03:51:01 AM
Duck eggs are awesome. Also we can get farm fresh duck eggs from the Chinese grocery store.

Chicken eggs from the stores around here are not even close to fresh.

Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: boulderbrewer on March 27, 2010, 04:04:33 AM
We are getting about 4 duck eggs a day now with our old girls. Those eggs kill when baking things.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: pinnah on April 13, 2010, 09:58:13 PM
Boulder

You hooked me up mister.

Fresh from the nest eggs. Steamed 20 minutes.
Into ice and cold water plunge. 15 minute.

Results...A  cleanly and easily peeled hard egg.

Thanks sooooo much!   8)



Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: boulderbrewer on April 14, 2010, 01:56:50 AM
Glad it worked for ya.

Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: euge on April 15, 2010, 08:24:21 AM
Hardboiled 6 jumbo brown today. At least a week in my fridge. Pierced the fat ends and brought up to and boiled for 8 minutes. Rapidly chilled no cracking and easy to peel. Mmm quick snack and egg salad on crackers.
Title: Re: Hard boiled eggs...what is your secret?
Post by: bluefoxicy on July 29, 2010, 04:12:55 PM

No worries, the ones sitting on the counter for near a week or those in the bottom of the fridge get turned into pickeld eggs/egg salad now  ;D

I love pickled eggs!  Do you do red beet or brown malt vinegar pickled eggs?