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Title: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: tommymorris on December 19, 2013, 07:37:57 PM
I recently built a can heater to regulate the temperature in my fermentation chamber on cold days. The can heater uses a 60 Watt incandescent light bulb as a heat source.

As of Jan 1 60 Watt bulbs can no longer be manufactured in or imported into the USA.

Any suggestions for alternatives? Many of the new efficient bulbs produce far less waste heat.

The 60 Watt bulbs will probably be around for a while.

Maybe I can replace with a heat lamp?

Just wondering what people think.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: weithman5 on December 19, 2013, 08:16:48 PM
this pi_ _ es me off in general

on topic though, i would just use a 40 watt bulb, or even two depending on your set up.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: michaeltrego on December 19, 2013, 08:40:00 PM
I use a 12"x8" 16 watt reptile heating pad hanging on the back wall of the chamber. 
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: mabrungard on December 19, 2013, 08:46:04 PM
A regular heating pad from the drug store is OK as long as it doesn't have an automatic shutoff circuit.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: kramerog on December 19, 2013, 09:21:10 PM
Stock up on 60W! 

I use an aquarium heater for Belgians.  It would probably work for your purposes although it might have to be placed into a water-filled container.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: Pinski on December 19, 2013, 09:32:57 PM
I really like this, it's worked great for a couple years now.

ceramic reptile heat bulb (http://www.exo-terra.com/en/products/ceramic_heater.php)
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: Stevie on December 19, 2013, 11:17:45 PM
Reptile and seed sprouting pads are cheap and work well.

I was always afraid of the paint can + light bulb method. Might be irrational.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: tommymorris on December 20, 2013, 01:01:33 AM

this pi_ _ es me off in general

on topic though, i would just use a 40 watt bulb, or even two depending on your set up.

The 40 Watt bulbs will also be gone.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: tommymorris on December 20, 2013, 01:05:53 AM

I really like this, it's worked great for a couple years now.

ceramic reptile heat bulb (http://www.exo-terra.com/en/products/ceramic_heater.php)

This looks like a good option. Thanks!
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: tommymorris on December 20, 2013, 01:06:57 AM

Reptile and seed sprouting pads are cheap and work well.

I was always afraid of the paint can + light bulb method. Might be irrational.

I like the can heater. I built it in about 20 minutes and it works very well. Just don't touch the can while it is on. It is very hot.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: ajk on December 20, 2013, 07:16:49 PM
Incandescent bulbs aren't going away entirely, just the inefficient ones.  Unfortunately, the inefficiency is something we homebrewers rely on; we want that heat energy that in most lighting applications is wasted.  With the newer incandescents, you'll likely need to up the wattage.  You don't need much to begin with, though; I use 40-W bulbs now.

Alternate suggestion: replace all the incandescents in your parents' house with CFLs or LEDs, save them money on their energy bill, you look like a good kid, and you get a lifetime supply of fermentation chamber heating elements. :-)
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: micsager on December 20, 2013, 09:57:55 PM
I'd go and buy a crapload of 60w bulbs. 

And this new rule kind of made me made as well.  But that commercial that says if each household replaced just one bulb, it save enough energy for 3 millions home, it made me feel better. 

(I wonder if that is even true, though)
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: hopfenundmalz on December 20, 2013, 10:37:24 PM
As I have added more fridges and freezers, we replaced incandescent with CFLs. With the kitchen redo, we went LCD in there along with more efficient appliances. Utility bill is about the same, but now I have 3fridges, one chest freezer and a dorm fridge kegerator.


Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: Joe Sr. on December 20, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
With the kitchen redo, we went LCD

I went with halogen.  Didn't give it a lot of thought until recently...

Next time!
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: klickitat jim on December 20, 2013, 11:11:44 PM
I have a secret stash of 100s. Enough to light my shop for about ten years.

I use a non auto shut off heat pad. Works great. I need to get a backup though, before they are banned too.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: Stevie on December 21, 2013, 12:24:23 AM
Incandescent bulbs aren't going away entirely, just the inefficient ones.  Unfortunately, the inefficiency is something we homebrewers rely on; we want that heat energy that in most lighting applications is wasted.

Friend in northern climates tell me they rely on the heat from incandescent bulbs during the winter. Not sure how much of an exaggeration that is. I've been using cfl bulbs for years so the new laws don't bug me much. I hear the newer halogens are nice.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: tommymorris on December 21, 2013, 01:44:13 AM
My ferm chamber is in my garage in Northern Mississippi. This time of year active fermentation makes enough heat to keep the wort at the right temp with the deep freeze needing to come on occasionally to cool it off. After the krausen starts to drop less heat is being produced so I need the can heater to keep the beer in the 60's.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: 69franx on January 20, 2014, 08:44:16 PM
Kind of off subject, kinda on: I have a new 7.2 cf chest freezer in my basement with Johnson digital controller to regulate temp. Unfortunately, at this time of year, my basement is staying in the 35-50 deg range. Can one of these reptile heaters get my chest freezer up to ale temps? Just not even sure how to find out, wondering who may have an answer... I have a second Johnson to run the heater if it works
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: In The Sand on January 20, 2014, 08:57:07 PM

I really like this, it's worked great for a couple years now.

ceramic reptile heat bulb (http://www.exo-terra.com/en/products/ceramic_heater.php)

This is what I use.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: punatic on January 21, 2014, 12:27:10 AM
And this new rule kind of made me made as well.  But that commercial that says if each household replaced just one bulb, it save enough energy for 3 millions home, it made me feel better. 

Sheryl Crow says if we all would just use only one sheet of toilet paper we could save the trees and save the planet. 

Thanks!  That's an awesome idea, One-Sheet-Sheryl!

I doubt that it would make anyone feel better though.  Everyone would be walking around scratching their asses all of the time.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: Jeff M on January 21, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
She obviously doesnt know about the Three Sea Shells.....
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: klickitat jim on January 21, 2014, 01:27:10 AM
You have to know the one sheet method though.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/a7ududyv.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/ugeryvy3.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/e2umy2ym.jpg)

Save center punch for cleaning under fingernail
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/evebu2y6.jpg)
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: In The Sand on January 21, 2014, 01:47:27 AM

You have to know the one sheet method though.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/a7ududyv.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/ugeryvy3.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/e2umy2ym.jpg)

Save center punch for cleaning under fingernail
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/evebu2y6.jpg)

I'm officially disturbed...
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: klickitat jim on January 21, 2014, 01:52:02 AM
One must prepare for the zombie apocalypse
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: Jeff M on January 21, 2014, 02:06:13 AM
LOL
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: punatic on January 21, 2014, 03:08:14 AM
She obviously doesnt know about the Three Sea Shells.....

(http://www.poopreport.com/Images/3shells.jpg)

Plop, plop, fizz, fizz,
Oh what a relief it is!
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: punatic on January 21, 2014, 03:11:31 AM
(http://compellingparade.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/derailed_train.jpg)


Sorry!   :-[
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: Jeff M on January 21, 2014, 03:16:35 AM
She obviously doesnt know about the Three Sea Shells.....

(http://www.poopreport.com/Images/3shells.jpg)

Plop, plop, fizz, fizz,
Oh what a relief it is!

Glad someone got my reference:) +~
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: hopfenundmalz on January 21, 2014, 03:50:51 AM
You have to know the one sheet method though.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/a7ududyv.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/ugeryvy3.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/e2umy2ym.jpg)

Save center punch for cleaning under fingernail
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/21/evebu2y6.jpg)
A friend of my dad had that joke and used it often in the 60s. Exactly what came to mind when one sheet was brought up.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: klickitat jim on January 21, 2014, 04:22:55 AM
It's a Marine Corps thing. Or used to be before the invention of the stress card
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: punatic on January 21, 2014, 05:10:02 AM
It's a Marine Corps thing. Or used to be before the invention of the stress card

Jarheads wipe with stress cards?  No wonder they're such bad... asses!  ;)
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: klickitat jim on January 21, 2014, 05:13:51 AM
I couldn't say what they do nowadays.

Oh, lizard rock probably great idea. I use a heat pad with no auto shut off feature.
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: punatic on January 21, 2014, 05:17:49 AM
What do they do when their Humvee gets a flat in a combat zone?

They go with a combat jack.  ::)
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: BeerBill on December 14, 2018, 10:21:52 PM
I recently built a can heater to regulate the temperature in my fermentation chamber on cold days. The can heater uses a 60 Watt incandescent light bulb as a heat source.

As of Jan 1 60 Watt bulbs can no longer be manufactured in or imported into the USA.

Any suggestions for alternatives? Many of the new efficient bulbs produce far less waste heat.

The 60 Watt bulbs will probably be around for a while.

Maybe I can replace with a heat lamp?

Just wondering what people think.

Chocolate enrobing machines blew air across a light bulb to warm the chocolate but now they use an open coil heater. (https://d1sqmyysrz5gju.cloudfront.net/_cache/ce_img/media/product_photos/enrobing_heater_585_516_70_int_s_c1.jpg)
https://goo.gl/images/1RMRnt (https://goo.gl/images/1RMRnt)
Title: Re: Can heater light bulb alternatives
Post by: yso191 on December 14, 2018, 11:16:49 PM
 I use a hair dryer. It works great.