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Title: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on December 20, 2013, 02:22:48 PM
Thought I would share this recipe. I just took final sample before putting into keg for conditioning, and i'm loving the overall characteristics of this beer. I've brewed this in the past, but added citra hops last 10 minutes. the result is a very subtle yet pleasant finish of fruit. i cant wait for carbonation and the first pour!

kens english ale
American Pale Ale (10 A)
Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 7.34 gal
Boil Time: 60 min
End of Boil Vol: 6.24 gal
Final Bottling Vol: 5.25 gal
Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage
Date: 07 Dec 2013
Brewer: ken
Asst Brewer:
Equipment: Kens SS Pot and Igloo Tun (10 Gal/37.8 L) - All Grain
Efficiency: 75.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 81.8 %
Taste Rating: 30.0
Taste Notes: nice and dry, goldings hops shine thru with citra just noticeable in finish.
kegged 12-20-13.
Ingredients
Amt    Name    Type    #    %/IBU
10 lbs    Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)    Grain    1    90.9 %
8.0 oz    Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM)    Grain    2    4.5 %
8.0 oz    Melanoiden Malt (27.0 SRM)    Grain    3    4.5 %
0.50 oz    Magnum [14.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min    Hop    4    17.6 IBUs
0.50 Items    Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 10.0 mins)    Fining    5    -
1.00 oz    Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min    Hop    6    21.3 IBUs
1.50 oz    Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min    Hop    7    5.9 IBUs
1.0 pkg    Dry English Ale (White Labs #WLP007) [35.49 ml]    Yeast    8    -
Gravity, Alcohol Content and Color
Est Original Gravity: 1.057 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.014 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.6 %
Bitterness: 44.8 IBUs
Est Color: 8.3 SRM
Measured Original Gravity: 1.057 SG
Measured Final Gravity: 1.011 SG
Actual Alcohol by Vol: 6.0 %
Calories: 189.7 kcal/12oz
Mash Profile
Mash Name: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Sparge Water: 3.85 gal
Sparge Temperature: 175.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE
Total Grain Weight: 11 lbs
Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
Tun Temperature: 100.0 F
Mash PH: 5.20
Mash Steps
Name    Description    Step Temperature    Step Time
Mash In    Add 20.25 qt of water at 161.0 F    153.0 F    75 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (0.05gal, 3.79gal) of 175.0 F water
Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
Carbonation and Storage
Carbonation Type: Keg
Pressure/Weight: 12.54 PSI
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 45.0 F
Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage
Volumes of CO2: 2.3
Carbonation Used: Keg with 12.54 PSI
Age for: 30.00 days
Storage Temperature: 65.0 F
Notes
maintained mash temp 152-153F for 70 minutes

first running = 19 brix 1.0785 gravity

after mash = 3.5gal 16 brix 1.065 gravity

after sparge = 7.5 gal 11.2 brix 1.045 gravity

after boil = 14 brix 1.057 gravity

8pm fermentation started 66F (aprox 10 hours after yeast pitched)

1.014 after 1 week

1.011 after 10 days

kegged 12-20-13
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Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: erockrph on December 20, 2013, 03:10:40 PM
Looks like a nice one. I've never thought of Citra in an English Pale Ale, but I do think a restrained US hop fruitiness compliments the style when done right. My personal preference is hops with a stone fruit flavor (like Caliente or Meridian) to compliment the esters coming from the British yeast, but I bet Centennial or Amarillo would be nice as well.
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on December 20, 2013, 03:42:00 PM
Looks like a nice one. I've never thought of Citra in an English Pale Ale, but I do think a restrained US hop fruitiness compliments the style when done right. My personal preference is hops with a stone fruit flavor (like Caliente or Meridian) to compliment the esters coming from the British yeast, but I bet Centennial or Amarillo would be nice as well.

right...i had some citra left over from my belgium citra wit, and figured i would try a small amount at the end of the boil. first impressions are good.
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: pinnah on December 20, 2013, 03:44:29 PM
Interesting.  My guess would have been that the Citra would totally overwhelm the Goldings.
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on December 20, 2013, 03:48:08 PM
Interesting.  My guess would have been that the Citra would totally overwhelm the Goldings.

it was only 10 minutes - and i just noticed my recipe has the goldings and citra amounts reversed...should be 1.5 ounce goldings and 1.0 ounce citra last 10 minutes.
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: gman23 on December 20, 2013, 04:41:42 PM
My "session" ale has just a touch of citra along with cascade at flameout with S-04. I am always surprised at how a little citra can go a long way...
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: Mike V. Sardina on December 20, 2013, 05:57:12 PM
Certainly an interesting looking recipe -- I guess that I never would have thought to use a late-addition of Citra hops in an"English Pale Ale."  I am curious to hear how the hop aroma and flavor balances and plays off of the Maris Otter and Caramel/Crystal 60 that you used...

Cheers, and enjoy!

Mike
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: Alewyfe on December 20, 2013, 06:01:34 PM
Had a NW adapted english bitter yesterday on cask at Falling Sky in Eugene. The cask was dry hopped with centennial and us goldings and it was wonderful. There was a note of citrus along with lots of floral flavors and it worked very well indeed IMO.
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on December 20, 2013, 08:05:14 PM
Looks like a nice one. I've never thought of Citra in an English Pale Ale, but I do think a restrained US hop fruitiness compliments the style when done right. My personal preference is hops with a stone fruit flavor (like Caliente or Meridian) to compliment the esters coming from the British yeast, but I bet Centennial or Amarillo would be nice as well.

right. i use wlp007 - i ferment on the cool side and not much esters produced by this strain IME. so i think the right hops with this yeast is important if youre interested in "fruit" shining thru.
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: dmtaylor on December 20, 2013, 08:29:24 PM
No such thing as Citra in an English Pale Ale IMHO.  You've Americanized it now.
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on December 20, 2013, 08:39:16 PM
No such thing as Citra in an English Pale Ale IMHO.  You've Americanized it now.

sometimes you just gotta break the "rules" and try it for yourself and decide... :P
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: hopfenundmalz on December 20, 2013, 09:03:05 PM
No such thing as Citra in an English Pale Ale IMHO.  You've Americanized it now.
A couple years ago I saw Citra, Galaxy, and Simcoe on handpump clips - in London! They are playing with hops too. I can't remember which one I had, it was not over the top, but different than the usual Fuggles Goldings ales.
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: klickitat jim on December 20, 2013, 09:05:22 PM
You crazy beer style maverick!
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on December 20, 2013, 09:13:47 PM
No such thing as Citra in an English Pale Ale IMHO.  You've Americanized it now.
A couple years ago I saw Citra, Galaxy, and Simcoe on handpump clips - in London! They are playing with hops too. I can't remember which one I had, it was not over the top, but different than the usual Fuggles Goldings ales.

that's awesome - good info. i'm not sure why i tried it, just struck me as something that might be interesting and so, i took the plunge.
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on December 20, 2013, 09:14:52 PM
You crazy beer style maverick!

 8)
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: hopfenundmalz on December 20, 2013, 11:31:03 PM
Just to show it has been done, and overdone, Pete Brown's blog from today.
http://petebrown.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/golden-pints-2013.html
Title: Re: English Pale Ale with Citra
Post by: BrewingRover on December 21, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
Just to show it has been done, and overdone, Pete Brown's blog from today.
http://petebrown.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/golden-pints-2013.html
It's been interesting to see the use of US hops on my trips. I had a lovely all-Cascade bitter a few years back

I wonder if any of that Fullers Imperial Stout he mentions will make it over here?