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Title: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: tommymorris on December 29, 2013, 03:47:12 pm
Knocked the empty carboy over with the garden hose when disconnecting my wort chiller. The carboy lasted 3 years.

Fermenting in a kettle!

Silver lining: just ordered ordered a Speidel.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: HoosierBrew on December 29, 2013, 04:12:56 pm
Glad you didn't get hurt. I got some bad cuts from broken carboys a couple times.  These are cheap and have plenty of headspace - I have quite a few :

http://shop.greatfermentations.com/product/7-9-gallon-fermenting-bucket/plastic-fermenters
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: philm63 on December 29, 2013, 06:08:18 pm
Sorry to hear, and glad there were no casualties other than the carboy. Got me thinking; I'm setting up my new pump and plate chiller, tossing in a Hop Rocket as well, and I also use glass carboys.

Seems there will be a bunch of hoses laying about during the chilling process and this type of accident is bound to happen if the carboy is just sitting there empty - light enough to be knocked over easily.

Thinking I might put the empty carboy in a crate or other device to hold it securely and protect it from such a mishap.

See? Something good DID come from this. Thanks!
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: gmac on December 29, 2013, 06:28:24 pm
I've broken 3 so far. Hate glass. 
Glad you didn't get hurt.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: tommymorris on December 30, 2013, 07:07:51 am
Thanks for the support guys. Can't wait to try my new Speidel. Probably should have just gone for a bucket, but, I am a sucker for the expensive option.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: mugwort on December 30, 2013, 09:24:24 am
Sorry to hear about the breakage but cheers to your improvisation.

Quote from: philm63 link=topic=17820.msg224929#msg224929 date=13883carboys.

Thinking I might put the empty carboy in a crate or other device to hold it securely and protect it from such a mishap.

I hear you.  Got a fleet of glass carboys to manage.  I put the two or three waiting to be filled each in a blue cooler to keep them safe and upright.  Once they're filled with wort, any further chilling that is needed is done in cooler with an ice bath.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: denny on December 30, 2013, 09:40:31 am
You're smarter than I was.  I had to break 3 of them before I got the message and switched to buckets.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: Stevie on December 30, 2013, 09:43:59 am
Have fun the speidel. From what I have heard they are awesome.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: euge on December 30, 2013, 12:04:40 pm
I can't believe I used to pick up full carboys and shake them. They were slippery and I was most likely buzzed to boot. Escaped without injury. Been using the same food-grade buckets for six years. Also without injury.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: morticaixavier on December 30, 2013, 12:07:25 pm
Yeah, I've got some glass carboys (carboiai?) but I only use them for sours at this point so no picking up or shaking for me.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: euge on December 30, 2013, 12:17:13 pm
I think carboys excel as solerae. Probably the only reason to risk using them. ;)
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: mugwort on December 30, 2013, 01:07:45 pm
Yeah, I've got some glass carboys (carboiai?) but I only use them for sours at this point so no picking up or shaking for me.

If you use those low-profile plant carts (IKEA has a sturdy circular SS one) you can shake & slosh the samichlaus out of it and then roll it to the destination for fermentation in a very safe fashion.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: beersk on December 31, 2013, 08:47:52 am
I'm still using carboys. I just make sure to be very careful when handling them. I don't lift them when full unless I use a brew hauler and I make sure my hands and the carboy surface is dry when I pick it up to dump out yeast/trub. Use some finesse, guys!
Glad you weren't near the carboy when it broke, alestateyall.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: reverseapachemaster on December 31, 2013, 09:00:01 am
Seems like breaking glass carboys is very fashionable right now. The only glass I use are 5l wine jugs and even with a built in handle and the considerably lighter weight I am still extremely careful about avoiding knocking one off a counter or dropping it. Otherwise it's all buckets and better bottles (only for sours).
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: hopfenundmalz on December 31, 2013, 09:26:26 am
Milk crates for my carboys.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: Stevie on December 31, 2013, 09:35:09 am

Milk crates for my carboys.

Don't steal milk crates, or kegs. :)
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: punatic on December 31, 2013, 10:55:05 am
Milk crates for my carboys.

I'm still using carboys. I just make sure to be very careful when handling them. I don't lift them when full unless I use a brew hauler and I make sure my hands and the carboy surface is dry when I pick it up to dump out yeast/trub. Use some finesse, guys!
Glad you weren't near the carboy when it broke, alestateyall.

+1

I guess I must be an exception.  Many years of working in laboratories with nasty compounds in glass containers has made handling with care a main priority/survival instinct for me.  It is ingrained in my work habits.

More than 24 years of fermenting in glass without breaking a carboy.  They all reside in milk crates, and are moved about as little as possible.  When they do move they are handled with care.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: jeffy on December 31, 2013, 12:51:58 pm
Milk crates for my carboys.

I'm still using carboys. I just make sure to be very careful when handling them. I don't lift them when full unless I use a brew hauler and I make sure my hands and the carboy surface is dry when I pick it up to dump out yeast/trub. Use some finesse, guys!
Glad you weren't near the carboy when it broke, alestateyall.

+1

I guess I must be an exception.  Many years of working in laboratories with nasty compounds in glass containers has made handling with care a main priority/survival instinct for me.  It is ingrained in my work habits.

More than 24 years of fermenting in glass without breaking a carboy.  They all reside in milk crates, and are moved about as little as possible.  When they do move they are handled with care.
I've broken two in 23 years, the first about 21 years ago when I was draining it of water and it knocked against a brick wall.  The second when I was carefully putting it into a small fridge and cracked it when it lightly bumped another carboy.  The beer stayed inside.  They can be very fragile.
A friend of mine nearly killed himself from blood loss once by having one break while he was holding it.
Ya know, I don't trust those handles that clamp onto the neck, either.  I'd rather have one hand under it and the other hand around the neck.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: redbeerman on December 31, 2013, 12:55:29 pm
Yeah, I've got some glass carboys (carboiai?) but I only use them for sours at this point so no picking up or shaking for me.

+1
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: hopfenundmalz on December 31, 2013, 02:13:53 pm

Milk crates for my carboys.

Don't steal milk crates, or kegs. :)
Who said anything about stealing? Do you know that you can buy new milk crates. The wife got some nice ones on sale through Duluth Trading. She also organized a club buy to get free shipping for more than 10.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: punatic on December 31, 2013, 03:00:44 pm
I have several crates that used to hold cases of half liter deposit bier bottles in Germany.  The crates are pretty much the same size and shape as milk crates.  My parents used them as shipping containers when they moved back to Florida from Bad Aibling.  Their friends at the brewery there gave them to my parents.

Milk crates are sold at many big box stores here in The States.  No reason to steal them. 
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: Stevie on December 31, 2013, 03:52:51 pm


Milk crates for my carboys.

Don't steal milk crates, or kegs. :)
Who said anything about stealing? Do you know that you can buy new milk crates. The wife got some nice ones on sale through Duluth Trading. She also organized a club buy to get free shipping for more than 10.

Just being funny. Not looking to accuse.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: fistfullofhops on January 03, 2014, 12:48:54 pm
I used to rock them back and forth on the floor in a "thump thump" fashion to slosh the wort around. Carried them up and down stairs, probably a few times with wet hands. Amazing I never broke one. Nothing but plastic for me this time around.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: BrewingRover on January 04, 2014, 08:33:31 am
Ya know, I don't trust those handles that clamp onto the neck, either.  I'd rather have one hand under it and the other hand around the neck.

My wife got me one of those as a gift. It was hard to act grateful when I knew I would never use it.

I'm she sure did the same with the vacuum she got  ::)
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: speed on January 04, 2014, 08:49:36 am
I'm getting old enough that I don't like to carry carboys up and down stairs, so I bought a 2wheel cart from menards that is designed to carry plastic buckets. I just bungee cord the carboy to it.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: Titanium Brewing on January 06, 2014, 03:14:12 pm
I have all my glass carboys in Home Depot Homer buckets, which then sit in milk crates. I also have a brew hauler that I rarely use anymore. I got rid of my orange carboy handles, seems I am just tempting fate with those. Now a days I only use my glass carboys for Wild/Sour beers, as they sit a long time with out being touched.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: dkfick on January 07, 2014, 08:04:08 am
I have many glass carboys and have yet to break one.  I also don't use glass for primary fermentation so they are never exposed to temperature extremes nor sitting directly on concrete.  They are only used for secondary fermentation and bulk aging.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: el_capitan on January 11, 2014, 07:15:44 pm
My 6.5 gallon carboy has a threaded neck, and it came with a plastic cap that screws on nicely.  I used to cap the wort and roll it back and forth on the carpet vigorously to aerate.  Can you imagine what a mess that would have made?   :o

I've used buckets for years now with no problem, but for some reason I'm starting to reconsider and thinking about using the glass again.  I have two 3-gallon glass carboys that are nice to use.  The smaller size makes them way easier to handle.  I might use them to bulk age some bigger beers. 

I'm seriously interested in the big mouth bubblers that just hit the market.  Waiting to hear some more feedback on those after extended use. 
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: ridesalot on January 26, 2014, 11:56:48 pm
 >:( >:(was using brew hauler. 5gallon shifted when I picked it up, the straps spread and it slid out. 6 inches off concrete floor. All it took. Glass beer everywhere. Going to plastic.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: tommymorris on January 27, 2014, 06:57:33 am

>:( >:(was using brew hauler. 5gallon shifted when I picked it up, the straps spread and it slid out. 6 inches off concrete floor. All it took. Glass beer everywhere. Going to plastic.

Sorry about that. Brew hauler needs to give you a refund! ;)
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: scottNU on January 27, 2014, 08:16:41 am

>:( >:(was using brew hauler. 5gallon shifted when I picked it up, the straps spread and it slid out. 6 inches off concrete floor. All it took. Glass beer everywhere. Going to plastic.

Sorry about that. Brew hauler needs to give you a refund! ;)

I've had good luck with my Brew Hauler, but this is a good warning to make sure the straps are secure and don't trust the hauler blindly.  Thanks for the warning!
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: Pinski on January 27, 2014, 09:15:09 am

>:( >:(was using brew hauler. 5gallon shifted when I picked it up, the straps spread and it slid out. 6 inches off concrete floor. All it took. Glass beer everywhere. Going to plastic.

Sorry about that. Brew hauler needs to give you a refund! ;)

I'm sorry you lost your beer and I'm glad (hopeful?) you weren't injured.
That said, it's hard for me to imagine how this could happen if you took the time to make sure the straps were flat against the glass, evenly distributed around the carboy and as snug as you could tighten them. Doing this and lifting squarely from the handles I've never had any problem and find my BruHaulers to work great.  Moved 13 gallons last night out of chest freezers without a problem.   
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: philm63 on January 27, 2014, 12:26:11 pm
I'd never heard of one slipping out of a brew-hauler before - good to know this is a possibility. I figure if the straps are adjusted correctly, this kind of mishap shouldn't happen. I also employ the help of my wife when carrying a full carboy downstairs - I just can't see carrying that thing on my own, even with the brew-hauler.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: evandy on January 28, 2014, 09:26:03 pm
That's why I switched to better bottles a couple of years ago.   You have to clean them right away, but other than that they work well.  I've dropped one full of wort and only lost a pint (note: the blue carry handles only work with the hard plastic stoppers, not rubber ones!).

This lets me use my no-muss, no-fuss, auto-shake aeration method:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pr8vzC-ydRc/UuiCdQ6CRiI/AAAAAAAAAGs/IGnkcGWQniQ/s640/BeerStuff.jpg)
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: tommymorris on January 29, 2014, 05:14:12 am

That's why I switched to better bottles a couple of years ago.   You have to clean them right away, but other than that they work well.  I've dropped one full of wort and only lost a pint (note: the blue carry handles only work with the hard plastic stoppers, not rubber ones!).

This lets me use my no-muss, no-fuss, auto-shake aeration method:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pr8vzC-ydRc/UuiCdQ6CRiI/AAAAAAAAAGs/IGnkcGWQniQ/s640/BeerStuff.jpg)

Awesome. I bet those two would love to destroy dough balls in the mash tun, too.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: HoosierBrew on January 29, 2014, 05:56:00 am
That picture pretty much sums up why I went back to buckets and BBs.  My beer is just as clean.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: fistfullofhops on January 29, 2014, 06:06:01 am
Great picture. Looks like a couple of great brewing assistants there!
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: euge on January 29, 2014, 07:19:48 am
Damn I got to get me some of those brew-dwarves. I bet they work for peanuts...
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: Pinski on January 29, 2014, 07:54:32 am
Damn I got to get me some of those brew-dwarves. I bet they work for peanuts...

I thought they were gremlins trying to get his beer.
Title: Re: Broke my glass carboy today
Post by: Joe Sr. on January 29, 2014, 08:20:33 am
That picture pretty much sums up why I went back to buckets and BBs.  My beer is just as clean.

This.  I cracked a glass carboy with one of my kids near enough to freak me out. Got rid of them thereafter (the glass carboys, not the kids).