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Title: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: jaftak22 on January 12, 2014, 08:09:43 PM
So when I was sanitizing some of my stuff the other day I got really irritated. My sink is really small and I wish I had a lot more room. My solution is to buy a Rubbermaid tote from Walmart. I wanna get one big enough that I can put an entire bucket or carboy into. What does everyone else do to clean everything or have you just been dealing with what you got like I have?
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: fmader on January 12, 2014, 08:29:49 PM
I try to do what I can outside. I salvaged an old plastic sink basin. I use my chiller rubbings to fill it. I also fill my mash tun at the same time. My tun doubles as a vessel to soak my chiller in for a few minutes. As dat as carboys go, I clean in the bathtub. Now in saying that, I have a full bathroom dedicated to brewing.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Stevie on January 12, 2014, 08:30:31 PM
5 gallon buckets + a long window box liner for the long items like racking canes and dip tubes.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: jaftak22 on January 12, 2014, 10:23:11 PM
That is a reall good idea with the sink. Might get one off craigslist
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Jeff M on January 12, 2014, 10:26:41 PM
I was thinking about buying one of those Plastic Utility Sinks at the Big Box Store.  they run about 50 bucks.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: fmader on January 12, 2014, 10:38:10 PM
Yeah... This thing that I have has been through the ringer, but it holds water. I use a bung to stop the drain. I suppose you could easily make legs for it and add plumping, but mine just sits on the edge of the firewood deck. When I'm done, I just pull the plug and let it drain.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: dkfick on January 13, 2014, 12:57:21 AM
For cleaning I just use a laundry sink.  For sanitizing I use either a 5 gallon bucket or a spray bottle both with RO water and Star-San... For my corny kegs I use a keg washer with saniclean to avoid foaming.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Pinski on January 13, 2014, 03:49:40 AM
So when I was sanitizing some of my stuff the other day I got really irritated. My sink is really small and I wish I had a lot more room. My solution is to buy a Rubbermaid tote from Walmart. I wanna get one big enough that I can put an entire bucket or carboy into. What does everyone else do to clean everything or have you just been dealing with what you got like I have?

I use a "wrapping paper" tote to hold sanitizer when I'm racking to completely submerge the canes and tubes and either that or a standard to sanitize buckets if that is what I'm planning to ferment in.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: morticaixavier on January 13, 2014, 04:06:26 AM
on buckets, I figure I only use the inside surface so as long as that's sanitary I'm good. This means that I can sanitize the bucket by filling it with sanitizer. this is usually deep enough to sanitize anything else I might need to sanitize.

If I am bottling a whole batch and the timing works I will put the bottles in the oven the night before and bake them at 350 for 20-60 minutes and then turn the oven off and leave them there till the next morning. anything that can't be baked or won't fit in a bucket I just throw away cause I can't think of a reason that I need it. but if I DID need it I would spray it down really well with star san.

For cleaning I use the garden hose and a cotton or nylon grain bag, again, I'm almost always cleaning a bucket or a kettle if I'm cleaning big stuff so that becomes my 'sink' till I'm done.

Kegs get PBW and hot water inside, shaken well and then transferred under pressure to the next container that needs cleaning. same with sanitizer.

Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: thatgeekguy on January 13, 2014, 06:23:57 PM
I went the utility sink route, got tired of getting chewed out for making a mess cleaning in the kitchen. It's setup to be portable, I set it up in the driveway on brew day for quick gear cleanup as I'm brewing. I added two additional fittings, along with quick connects not shown in the photos, and use it for my immersion chiller and an external wash hose as well. I can fit a 15 gallon kettle, which is my largest item (for now). I've also taken it to a few brew-ins for a community sink, makes everyone's day better.

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Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Stevie on January 13, 2014, 06:26:22 PM
I went the utility sink route, got tired of getting chewed out for making a mess cleaning in the kitchen. It's setup to be portable, I set it up in the driveway on brew day for quick gear cleanup as I'm brewing. I added two additional fittings, along with quick connects not shown in the photos, and use it for my immersion chiller and an external wash hose as well. I can fit a 15 gallon kettle, which is my largest item (for now). I've also taken it to a few brew-ins for a community sink, makes everyone's day better.

You really thought that through. Nice work.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: garc_mall on January 14, 2014, 01:06:28 AM
I went the utility sink route, got tired of getting chewed out for making a mess cleaning in the kitchen. It's setup to be portable, I set it up in the driveway on brew day for quick gear cleanup as I'm brewing. I added two additional fittings, along with quick connects not shown in the photos, and use it for my immersion chiller and an external wash hose as well. I can fit a 15 gallon kettle, which is my largest item (for now). I've also taken it to a few brew-ins for a community sink, makes everyone's day better.

You really thought that through. Nice work.

Agreed, you should throw this thing up in Pimp My System with a short blurb on how you made it.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: hopfenundmalz on January 14, 2014, 01:44:57 AM
I have a double utility sink. Comes in handy.

The hose bib on the sink is really cool. Have to see if I have room around mine to do it.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: klickitat jim on January 14, 2014, 06:27:38 AM
Cool sink! That should have been in Zymurgy
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: ynotbrusum on January 14, 2014, 01:12:24 PM
I had a friend who does maintenance for a chain restaurant here in the Chicago area.  About a year back he had a full 8-foot stainless counter with sink attached available as it was pulled out of a store for remodeling the kitchen at the location.  I passed on it due to space concerns, but if I had pulled the trigger and put that on wheels, man oh man it would have been something.  But my marriage is too valuable to make my wife park her car outside.... :'(
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: thatgeekguy on January 14, 2014, 06:37:52 PM
Thanks to everyone for the compliments on the sink, I did get a little anal with the design.  ;D

Since then I've added two small plastic baskets off the back edge, gives me a place for sponges/nozzles/fittings/other junk.

I guess I'll put it over in Pimp My System, maybe it will make the next Gadgets issue or a monthly writeup. My burner igniter did make this year's Gadgets issue, didn't even know until my issue arrived....
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: kylekohlmorgen on January 14, 2014, 07:26:40 PM
Thanks to everyone for the compliments on the sink, I did get a little anal with the design.  ;D

Since then I've added two small plastic baskets off the back edge, gives me a place for sponges/nozzles/fittings/other junk.

I guess I'll put it over in Pimp My System, maybe it will make the next Gadgets issue or a monthly writeup. My burner igniter did make this year's Gadgets issue, didn't even know until my issue arrived....

Gets my vote for "Pimp My System" (which hasn't been very creative / impressive of late).

Could you take a few action shots during brew day? The more pictures, the better!
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Stevie on January 14, 2014, 07:53:01 PM
What about adding a small instant hot water heater? I know at my work they have them for the bathroom and break room sinks. They aren't too big, about the size of a hard bound book.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: klickitat jim on January 15, 2014, 12:55:02 AM
Camp Chief makes a portable propane camp shower that is on my wish list. When I finally cough up the money for one I'll be building one of these wash stations. But I want to build a three burner brew stand first...
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: brick pig on January 16, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
Hmm. I've always just used our kitchen sink. I've never thought that it was any bigger than anyone else's sink, but maybe it is if all you guys are saying you can't fit everything into yours. Once in awhile I will take a carboy outside and hose it out, if the weather is decent and it's a time of year when we have the hoses connected anyway. But generally our sink works fine for me.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Pinski on January 16, 2014, 07:23:24 PM
Hmm. I've always just used our kitchen sink. I've never thought that it was any bigger than anyone else's sink, but maybe it is if all you guys are saying you can't fit everything into yours. Once in awhile I will take a carboy outside and hose it out, if the weather is decent and it's a time of year when we have the hoses connected anyway. But generally our sink works fine for me.

Your right, the kitchen works OK for carboys and 5 gallon buckets.  When you start to use vessels much larger than that, the typical kitchen sink becomes more challenging to work with.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Stevie on January 16, 2014, 07:39:31 PM
Hmm. I've always just used our kitchen sink. I've never thought that it was any bigger than anyone else's sink, but maybe it is if all you guys are saying you can't fit everything into yours. Once in awhile I will take a carboy outside and hose it out, if the weather is decent and it's a time of year when we have the hoses connected anyway. But generally our sink works fine for me.

My kitchen sink isn't all that deep. Apartment living sucks sometimes. A spray hose would be nice.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: AmandaK on January 16, 2014, 07:53:16 PM
Hmm. I've always just used our kitchen sink. I've never thought that it was any bigger than anyone else's sink, but maybe it is if all you guys are saying you can't fit everything into yours. Once in awhile I will take a carboy outside and hose it out, if the weather is decent and it's a time of year when we have the hoses connected anyway. But generally our sink works fine for me.

My kitchen sink isn't all that deep. Apartment living sucks sometimes. A spray hose would be nice.

I rigged my old apartment sink with a garden hose attachment so I could hook up a small length of tubing as a "sprayer". Not perfect, but worked okay for what it was.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: brick pig on January 16, 2014, 08:02:01 PM
Your right, the kitchen works OK for carboys and 5 gallon buckets.  When you start to use vessels much larger than that, the typical kitchen sink becomes more challenging to work with.
Well, that's true; I only do 5-gallon batches, and I only do extract.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Joe Sr. on January 16, 2014, 10:01:10 PM
Hmm. I've always just used our kitchen sink. I've never thought that it was any bigger than anyone else's sink, but maybe it is if all you guys are saying you can't fit everything into yours. Once in awhile I will take a carboy outside and hose it out, if the weather is decent and it's a time of year when we have the hoses connected anyway. But generally our sink works fine for me.

Your right, the kitchen works OK for carboys and 5 gallon buckets.  When you start to use vessels much larger than that, the typical kitchen sink becomes more challenging to work with.

I've got a pretty big kitchen sink, but I don't think I could fit a carboy in it.  My 7 or 8 gallon kettle pretty much is the largest thing I can clean in there.

Thankfully, I have a floor drain in my basement and a hose attached to my slop sink.  I just have to make sure I don't spray Jr. when he's "helping out."  He loves to stir the bubbles in the bucket of star san.  Often with his whole arm, sleeve and all.  He goes back upstairs dripping wet.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Pinski on January 17, 2014, 02:59:26 AM
Hmm. I've always just used our kitchen sink. I've never thought that it was any bigger than anyone else's sink, but maybe it is if all you guys are saying you can't fit everything into yours. Once in awhile I will take a carboy outside and hose it out, if the weather is decent and it's a time of year when we have the hoses connected anyway. But generally our sink works fine for me.

Your right, the kitchen works OK for carboys and 5 gallon buckets.  When you start to use vessels much larger than that, the typical kitchen sink becomes more challenging to work with.

I've got a pretty big kitchen sink, but I don't think I could fit a carboy in it.  My 7 or 8 gallon kettle pretty much is the largest thing I can clean in there.

Thankfully, I have a floor drain in my basement and a hose attached to my slop sink.  I just have to make sure I don't spray Jr. when he's "helping out."  He loves to stir the bubbles in the bucket of star san.  Often with his whole arm, sleeve and all.  He goes back upstairs dripping wet.
I dream about floor drains.  You got it good brotha.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Joe Sr. on January 17, 2014, 03:45:32 AM
The floor drain is where I cracked the lays glass carboy I will ever use. Not the drains fault though.

It's nice to have but it dries out in the winter so I have to cap it. The tile is cracked and it's not worth digging up the floor. In the summer the dehumidifier dumps into it and keeps it full which is nice.

I've got a squeegee for when I hose off the floor but I don't know where my son put it. He's only two so he doesn't remember.  I found out after the last time I hosed off the floor.
Title: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: brick pig on January 17, 2014, 11:46:18 AM
I've got a pretty big kitchen sink, but I don't think I could fit a carboy in it....
i have to use the sprayer hose to rinse, but the carboy will lay in there on its side.

Funny, I have a floor drain in the basement, but it never occurred to me until reading this that I could use it for cleaning up after brewing. Of course, since I brew in the kitchen it doesn't make much sense. But now I suppose I have to think about starting a basement setup....


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Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: ynotbrusum on January 17, 2014, 01:09:17 PM
Best move I ever made was to install a Pex line to my garage - I hook it up manually to a slop sink in the basement and run either hot (for cleaning) or cold (for chilling) through the line.  A hose bib is the terminal end in the garage.  Makes cleaning a keggle and mash tun a snap!
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: AmandaK on January 17, 2014, 01:59:15 PM
Best move I ever made was to install a Pex line to my garage - I hook it up manually to a slop sink in the basement and run either hot (for cleaning) or cold (for chilling) through the line.  A hose bib is the terminal end in the garage.  Makes cleaning a keggle and mash tun a snap!

I'm having a sink with a hot/cold valve installed in my garage this Sunday. It's next to crazy to brew without a water source nearby. Luckily, my mom had been saving a 2'x5' SS wash basin and mixing valve for me (from when she used to process her own photographs, aka "the darkroom chemistry sink"). The valve has a tolerance of 1*F, totally unnecessary, but neat. I can't wait for it to be done so I can brew without pulling my hair out!
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: factory on January 17, 2014, 02:25:10 PM
5 gallon buckets + a long window box liner for the long items like racking canes and dip tubes.

I use a wallpaper tray to clean and soak my tubes.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: leejoreilly on January 17, 2014, 02:29:27 PM
Best move I ever made was to install a Pex line to my garage - I hook it up manually to a slop sink in the basement and run either hot (for cleaning) or cold (for chilling) through the line.  A hose bib is the terminal end in the garage.  Makes cleaning a keggle and mash tun a snap!

I'm having a sink with a hot/cold valve installed in my garage this Sunday. It's next to crazy to brew without a water source nearby. Luckily, my mom had been saving a 2'x5' SS wash basin and mixing valve for me (from when she used to process her own photographs, aka "the darkroom chemistry sink"). The valve has a tolerance of 1*F, totally unnecessary, but neat. I can't wait for it to be done so I can brew without pulling my hair out!

Any concern about your garage sink water lines freezing? Is your garage heated or well-insulated? My garage is neither and tends to stay maybe 10 -15 degrees warmer than outside temps, but at this time of year, outside is often in the teens or less.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Joe Sr. on January 17, 2014, 02:42:07 PM
I've got a pretty big kitchen sink, but I don't think I could fit a carboy in it....
i have to use the sprayer hose to rinse, but the carboy will lay in there on its side.

Funny, I have a floor drain in the basement, but it never occurred to me until reading this that I could use it for cleaning up after brewing. Of course, since I brew in the kitchen it doesn't make much sense. But now I suppose I have to think about starting a basement setup....


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I suppose it would fit in on the side as it's not that much bigger than the kettle.  I brew in the kitchen, too.  Carboys (Better Bottles) stay in the basement.  I carry the hot wort down the stairs.  Only had one idiot moment where I ran the kettle into the side of the dryer and spilled a bunch.  Never an issue on the stairs, though now I've probably cursed myself.

Best move I ever made was to install a Pex line to my garage - I hook it up manually to a slop sink in the basement and run either hot (for cleaning) or cold (for chilling) through the line.  A hose bib is the terminal end in the garage.  Makes cleaning a keggle and mash tun a snap!

My garage is a good 30 feet from the rear of the house.  I dream of renting a Ditch Witch and cutting a trench to bring out extra electric, water, etc.  I even have the routing planned.  It will never happen.  But it's nice to think about.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: Stevie on January 17, 2014, 02:48:04 PM

I use a wallpaper tray to clean and soak my tubes.

That's what I was looking for when I got the window box liner. Getting hard to come by. I guess wallpaper isn't very fashionable. :)
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: AmandaK on January 17, 2014, 03:10:07 PM
Best move I ever made was to install a Pex line to my garage - I hook it up manually to a slop sink in the basement and run either hot (for cleaning) or cold (for chilling) through the line.  A hose bib is the terminal end in the garage.  Makes cleaning a keggle and mash tun a snap!

I'm having a sink with a hot/cold valve installed in my garage this Sunday. It's next to crazy to brew without a water source nearby. Luckily, my mom had been saving a 2'x5' SS wash basin and mixing valve for me (from when she used to process her own photographs, aka "the darkroom chemistry sink"). The valve has a tolerance of 1*F, totally unnecessary, but neat. I can't wait for it to be done so I can brew without pulling my hair out!

Any concern about your garage sink water lines freezing? Is your garage heated or well-insulated? My garage is neither and tends to stay maybe 10 -15 degrees warmer than outside temps, but at this time of year, outside is often in the teens or less.

Very well insulated. When the "polar vortex" came through town, it was low 40s in the garage. Figured that was an extreme test.  8)
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: james on January 17, 2014, 04:27:55 PM
I'm having a sink with a hot/cold valve installed in my garage this Sunday. It's next to crazy to brew without a water source nearby.

I used to have to drag a 100 foot hose around the house for chilling and cleanup, dragging it inside to thaw was not fun as well as rinsing with cold water when its freezing outside. 

When we were looking at houses to move to I made sure it would be easy to have hot and cold water in the garage.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: AmandaK on January 17, 2014, 04:43:45 PM
I'm having a sink with a hot/cold valve installed in my garage this Sunday. It's next to crazy to brew without a water source nearby.

I used to have to drag a 100 foot hose around the house for chilling and cleanup, dragging it inside to thaw was not fun as well as rinsing with cold water when its freezing outside. 

I did this one time. Just one. I will never do it again. Freezing, thawing, freezing, cursing, etc. Never again.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: factory on June 03, 2014, 02:24:21 PM
I'm having a sink with a hot/cold valve installed in my garage this Sunday. It's next to crazy to brew without a water source nearby.

I used to have to drag a 100 foot hose around the house for chilling and cleanup, dragging it inside to thaw was not fun as well as rinsing with cold water when its freezing outside. 

When we were looking at houses to move to I made sure it would be easy to have hot and cold water in the garage.

I am fortunate enough to have my hot water heater in the garage.  I tap off the tank "flush out" bib.  I have a cold water source in the form of a spigot right outside the garage side door.  Just need a sink.
Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: dave.kline on June 28, 2014, 01:35:01 PM
I would love to have a utility sink. I'd have to settle for the basement since our garage gets too cold for plumbing in the winter. Cleaning a 10 gallon kettle, buckets, etc isn't easy with a kitchen sink. After brewing I put about 5 -  6 gallons of water in my kettle by filling a gallon pitcher over and over, mix PBW, and throw everything in to soak. Once done, I drain through the ball valve. Then I rinse with a garden hose adapter hooked up to the faucet with high temp tubing attached. This takes a lot longer than if I had a big sink available I'm sure, but it works. It's easy to make a mess though, which never goes over well with the wife. It seems like cleanup time matches the time she wants to use the kitchen.

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Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: 69franx on June 28, 2014, 01:59:37 PM
Most of the time the only cleaning issue my SO has is the line up of parts and kettles And hoses and tubing around the kitchen to dry. In the long run, she likes my beer so she tolerates it, but I know it frustrates her.


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Title: Re: Frickin cleaning time
Post by: dave.kline on June 29, 2014, 06:25:41 PM
My biggest problem is that my wife doesn't like beer. Not sure what's wrong with her. She obviously has good taste in men! ;-)

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