Homebrewers Association | AHA Forum

General Category => Equipment and Software => Topic started by: flbrewer on January 21, 2014, 10:18:45 PM

Title: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: flbrewer on January 21, 2014, 10:18:45 PM
I normally just use a sponge and soap to clean out my SS 10 gallon brew kettle. This looks like it cleans everything out. Is there a need for a product like PBW for this?

Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: Stevie on January 21, 2014, 10:29:31 PM
I use Oxyclean and once or twice a year a good scrubbing with Bar Keeper's Friend to get all the stuck bit off.
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: WDE97 on January 21, 2014, 10:42:44 PM
I use Oxyclean and once or twice a year a good scrubbing with Bar Keeper's Friend to get all the stuck bit off.

BKF is a great product to get those tough stains and beer stone off of stainless steel. I just do it as needed, maybe every 7-10 batches.
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: morticaixavier on January 21, 2014, 10:44:37 PM
yeah, I scrub it out with hot water and a nylon grain bag after the brew and when the beer stone/brown gunky gunk gets gross enough I hit it with some pbw and hot water. I don't like to let soap get near my beer, perhaps I'm too paranoid but... I also find it doesn't really work for the stuck on goo in the kettle.
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: flbrewer on January 21, 2014, 10:55:09 PM
Beer stone?
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: Herminator on January 21, 2014, 10:58:19 PM
Bar Keepers Friend works really well but not necessary every time.  PBW works great after brews for me.  Beer Stone is a calcium build up. 
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: hopfenundmalz on January 21, 2014, 11:15:23 PM
Beer stone?

Calcium Oxalate build up on the brewing and storage equipement. Brownish coating on kettles, or you can see it stain serving lines. PBW will remove organics, but not beerstone. For beerstone use and acid like distilled vinegar, Star San, or Bar Keepers Friend (it has oxalic acid as the main active ingredient). Beerstone can harbor bacteria, so it is not desired in a brewery.
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: flbrewer on January 21, 2014, 11:48:17 PM
Got it, sounds like what the Starsan took off the kettle for me!
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: euge on January 22, 2014, 12:50:33 AM
yeah, I scrub it out with hot water and a nylon grain bag after the brew and when the beer stone/brown gunky gunk gets gross enough I hit it with some pbw and hot water. I don't like to let soap get near my beer, perhaps I'm too paranoid but... I also find it doesn't really work for the stuck on goo in the kettle.

I use a copper scrubbie and elbow gease but no soap! I weird about it too.
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: theDarkSide on January 22, 2014, 01:30:01 PM
Another vote for Oxyclean and occasional Barkeepers friend cleaning.
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: AmandaK on January 22, 2014, 01:51:54 PM
I run PBW through my whole system (partial clean in place set up) after every brew. Every 10 brews, I run Acid #5 to keep all of the stainless nice and shiny and my hard SS plumbing free of build up.
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: HoosierBrew on January 22, 2014, 02:18:32 PM
Another vote for Oxyclean and occasional Barkeepers friend cleaning.

+1
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: hopfenundmalz on January 22, 2014, 02:20:53 PM
I run PBW through my whole system (partial clean in place set up) after every brew. Every 10 brews, I run Acid #5 to keep all of the stainless nice and shiny and my hard SS plumbing free of build up.
Where do you source the Acid 5?
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: AmandaK on January 22, 2014, 03:17:25 PM
I run PBW through my whole system (partial clean in place set up) after every brew. Every 10 brews, I run Acid #5 to keep all of the stainless nice and shiny and my hard SS plumbing free of build up.
Where do you source the Acid 5?

My LHBS (Apex Brew Wares) will order nearly anything I ask for. He's really, really good.
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: beersk on January 22, 2014, 06:59:23 PM
Is beer stone on the bottom of a boil kettle a concern for infection?
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: hopfenundmalz on January 22, 2014, 07:20:27 PM
I run PBW through my whole system (partial clean in place set up) after every brew. Every 10 brews, I run Acid #5 to keep all of the stainless nice and shiny and my hard SS plumbing free of build up.
Where do you source the Acid 5?

My LHBS (Apex Brew Wares) will order nearly anything I ask for. He's really, really good.
I will ask mine!

One of our Homebrewing friends who is now working as an assistant in a large brewpub says it is just like a big homebrew set up, but they have better chemicals. One needs to wear more safety gear to use those.  :)
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: morticaixavier on January 22, 2014, 07:30:15 PM
Is beer stone on the bottom of a boil kettle a concern for infection?

no. it might or might not be a concern for flavor and, I suppose if it got bad enough it could reduce the heat conductivity between the heat source and the wort (assuming direct fired)
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: beersk on January 22, 2014, 07:33:37 PM
Gotcha. So could possibly affect flavor... I should get out tbe barkeepers friend again.
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: AmandaK on January 22, 2014, 07:57:24 PM
I run PBW through my whole system (partial clean in place set up) after every brew. Every 10 brews, I run Acid #5 to keep all of the stainless nice and shiny and my hard SS plumbing free of build up.
Where do you source the Acid 5?

My LHBS (Apex Brew Wares) will order nearly anything I ask for. He's really, really good.
I will ask mine!

One of our Homebrewing friends who is now working as an assistant in a large brewpub says it is just like a big homebrew set up, but they have better chemicals. One needs to wear more safety gear to use those.  :)

Yep. I wear pink safety boots, eye protection, and gloves when I'm brewing.

My neighbors might think I'm crazy looking but my feet aren't wet, I didn't shoot spent grains into my eye when accidentally turning the shop vac to 'blow' instead of 'suck', and my hands aren't burnt or chafed when I'm done brewing.

Probably all of the OSHA classes from construction sites talking, but I'm a huge proponent of safety and cleanliness. Especially in the brewery.
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on January 23, 2014, 02:38:46 AM
I run PBW through my whole system (partial clean in place set up) after every brew. Every 10 brews, I run Acid #5 to keep all of the stainless nice and shiny and my hard SS plumbing free of build up.
Where do you source the Acid 5?
Foxx Equipment sells them by gallon.
Wholesale only thou.

Mid count malt supply also sells them.
Because it is hazardous material it needs to be shipped by freight.

It is not too expensive to my recollection.
Title: Re: Brew Kettle cleaning question
Post by: theDarkSide on January 23, 2014, 01:34:04 PM
Sorry about the thread jack, but does anyone use Barkeepers Friend with CIP?  When I use mine, I break everything down, boil the SS parts and use a BK paste consistency to clean the kettle.  Is it advisable to make the BK less of a paste and circulate using a pump?  Would it do any damage to the pump (chugger, plastic)?

I'd still scrub the kettle but I wonder if a warm BK solution would help clean out the pick up tubes, ball valve, etc.  Of course there would be a recirculation of clean water done after.

Thanks.