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Title: Cherries
Post by: 1vertical on March 29, 2010, 03:07:33 PM
In Belgium, they utilize a specific cherry variety for additions to the Kriek style beers.
Since I have no hope of obtaining any of this particular variety,
What is available in the US, that approximates this cherry closely?
Oregon fruit puree?
Michigan Sour Pie cherries?

Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: gail on March 29, 2010, 05:26:50 PM
I've heard Balaton cherries are a close approximation.  A web search will turn up sources; Ken Schramm reports on one farm in Michigan near Traverse City that will ship them:  http://www.michiganbalatoncherries.com/ordering.htm
Combining Balatons and North Star reportedly gives a very good color and flavor.  In my experience, Montmorency cherries make great pie but are not great by themselves when fermented (need to be mixed with a darker, sweeter cherry in my opinion).

Gail
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: dbeechum on March 29, 2010, 06:03:46 PM
I assume you're talking Schaarbeek Cherries. Sadly, they don't even grow enough of those in Belgium anymore and its a rare Kriek that uses them exclusively.
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: uthristy on March 29, 2010, 10:16:29 PM
Good stuff if you can find some  ;)

Drie Fonteinen Schaerbeekse Kriek
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/3-fonteinen-schaerbeekse-kriek/24383/
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2216/17647
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: dbeechum on March 29, 2010, 10:26:28 PM
And that's the precise one I wass thinking about. Beautiful beer.
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: 1vertical on March 30, 2010, 04:48:04 AM
Thanks everyone, I am kind of in the market and Gail I appreciate the links.
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: 1vertical on March 31, 2010, 05:40:34 AM
uthristy, I am still looking for that rochefort 12   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: 1vertical on April 07, 2010, 03:58:39 AM
Might deserve a heading all on it's own, but
I was given the insight to try a spice called
Mahlab, which is the heart of a cherry pit.
Ste.Lucie Cherry I plan on adding some of this
when I sour and cherry the beer that I am currently working on.

It has proposedly the flavor of almond and cherry.
to me that is a good combination.
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: tom on April 07, 2010, 03:38:10 PM
Interesting. I have heard or read that some brewers recommend using nonpitted cherries. Perhaps related?
How much do you plan to use?
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: 1vertical on April 07, 2010, 06:30:57 PM
Interesting. I have heard or read that some brewers recommend using nonpitted cherries. Perhaps related?
How much do you plan to use?
I ordered 1/2 pound and will taste it when it arrives. that will give me a better idea.
Tom, we have a discussion going here about this as well...
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1746.0 (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1746.0)
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: alewife on April 09, 2010, 11:44:05 PM
Might deserve a heading all on it's own, but
I was given the insight to try a spice called
Mahlab, which is the heart of a cherry pit.
Ste.Lucie Cherry I plan on adding some of this
when I sour and cherry the beer that I am currently working on.

It has proposedly the flavor of almond and cherry.
to me that is a good combination.


That's true.  There is an almond-like flavor to cherry pits.  When my grandmother taught me how to can cherries years ago, she always put several pits into the bottom of each jar, just to get that almond flavor.

Alewife

P.S.  We also did this when canning peaches and apricots.  Apricots also have a bitter  almond flavored kernal in the center of their pits.  In fact, they are so  almond like that they are used , with almonds , in the Italian amaretti cookies (the ones in the pastel paper wrappers).   So, I wouldn't be surprised that some brewers would recommend using the fruit pits along with the fruit in brewing. They definitely could add a different flavor dimension.
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: uthristy on April 11, 2010, 11:06:30 AM
uthristy, I am still looking for that rochefort 12   :D :D :D

Sorry but I drank the last one :D
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: 1vertical on April 11, 2010, 01:02:05 PM
Ok tubercle, I am planning on consuming toxic ETOH and Cyanide...(cherry pits contain Cyanide) OMG! :o
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: tubercle on April 11, 2010, 01:59:35 PM
Ok tubercle, I am planning on consuming toxic ETOH and Cyanide...(cherry pits contain Cyanide) OMG! :o

  You'll be OK as long as you don't mix the cyanide with zinc ;D

About 6:00pm I plan on mixing ETOH with a big plate of smoked boston butt. Hmm...wonder what would happen if I smoked it with cherry pits?

  I digress. I have never tried a cherry beer but am keeping up with this post. I see one in my future.
Title: Re: Cherries
Post by: 1vertical on April 12, 2010, 03:15:49 AM

  You'll be OK as long as you don't mix the cyanide with zinc ;D

Rolf pretty funny that one!