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Title: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: Pinski on February 02, 2014, 06:44:17 PM
varieties of malt to keep on-hand, in-house.  What would you choose?
I'm thinking...
1) A favorite continental pilsner malt, either Best Malz or Weyermann Floor Malted BoPils
2) Crisp Maris Otter
3) Weyermann light Munich

Possible alternatives for me; Gambrinus Organic Pale Malt, GW Northwest Pale Ale malt
I'm mostly set on the pils and maris otter because those are the ones that are occasionally out of stock at my LHBS.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: dmtaylor on February 02, 2014, 06:46:33 PM
Those are great options, and I would probably pick something along those same lines.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: HoosierBrew on February 02, 2014, 07:11:52 PM
  I'd say:               1. Rahr 2 Row
                           2. Best or Weyermann Pils
                           3. Crisp Maris Otter

                           If it were 4 I'd choose, light Munich would be 4th.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: erockrph on February 02, 2014, 07:12:14 PM
Assuming we're talking base malts only, right?

Crisp MO
Weyermann floor-malted Bo Pils or Best Malz Pilsner
Continental light Munich (I haven't tried a brand comparison yet, since most of the online shops don't give you an option)

Unless someone out there brews a lot of Vienna lagers or wheat beer, I'm guessing that a whole lot of us will have fairly similar lists. I'll be interested to hear everyone's brand preferences, though, since there are still a lot of brands of malt out there that I haven't tried.

Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: Pinski on February 02, 2014, 07:31:42 PM
Assuming we're talking base malts only, right?

Crisp MO
Weyermann floor-malted Bo Pils or Best Malz Pilsner
Continental light Munich (I haven't tried a brand comparison yet, since most of the online shops don't give you an option)

Unless someone out there brews a lot of Vienna lagers or wheat beer, I'm guessing that a whole lot of us will have fairly similar lists. I'll be interested to hear everyone's brand preferences, though, since there are still a lot of brands of malt out there that I haven't tried.

Yeah, I would assume most folks are going to go with base malts. But if someone has a reason to keep 55 lbs. of specialty grain around, let's hear it. I'm also curious to hear about folks' preference on base malts and hopefully learn something about the nuances of various maltsters.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: dkfick on February 02, 2014, 08:59:33 PM
1) Warminster MO
2) Best Pilsner
3) Briess 2 row
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: morticaixavier on February 02, 2014, 09:20:24 PM
Keeping i mind that my choices are influenced by a) if there is an organic option and b) trying to minimize the total distance traveled by my ingredients:

1) GW either CA Select or WA Select (the WA actually travels less than the CA for me because although it's grown here in CA it is malted up in WA soooo)
2)Gambrinus pils
3)Gambrinus 10L Munich

I've used the continental stuff and I am not sure I could tell the difference. some people could I'm sure but not so much for me. or maybe I'm just telling myself that because I don't want to order continental ingredients if I can help it.

but i think with those three I can emulate MO (CA select and Munich) or vienna (Munich and Pils) neither of which are available within a 6000 mile radius of me.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: mugwort on February 02, 2014, 11:01:49 PM
Keeping i mind that my choices are influenced by a) if there is an organic option and b) trying to minimize the total distance traveled by my ingredients:

1) GW either CA Select or WA Select (the WA actually travels less than the CA for me because although it's grown here in CA it is malted up in WA soooo)
2)Gambrinus pils
3)Gambrinus 10L Munich

My soon to be list exactly.  Using up the last of my OG Gamb Pale to be replaced by OG GW WA select.

Just need to stop by Seven Bridges in Santa Cruz for 50# while ostensibly visiting family.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: morticaixavier on February 02, 2014, 11:56:42 PM
Keeping i mind that my choices are influenced by a) if there is an organic option and b) trying to minimize the total distance traveled by my ingredients:

1) GW either CA Select or WA Select (the WA actually travels less than the CA for me because although it's grown here in CA it is malted up in WA soooo)
2)Gambrinus pils
3)Gambrinus 10L Munich

My soon to be list exactly.  Using up the last of my OG Gamb Pale to be replaced by OG GW WA select.

Just need to stop by Seven Bridges in Santa Cruz for 50# while ostensibly visiting family.

Last I checked they did not have any GW select makes at all in stock. Done till the new crop is in
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: Pinski on February 03, 2014, 12:04:00 AM
Keeping i mind that my choices are influenced by a) if there is an organic option and b) trying to minimize the total distance traveled by my ingredients:

1) GW either CA Select or WA Select (the WA actually travels less than the CA for me because although it's grown here in CA it is malted up in WA soooo)
2)Gambrinus pils
3)Gambrinus 10L Munich

My soon to be list exactly.  Using up the last of my OG Gamb Pale to be replaced by OG GW WA select.

Just need to stop by Seven Bridges in Santa Cruz for 50# while ostensibly visiting family.
;D ;D
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: beersk on February 03, 2014, 03:45:27 AM
I'd go with:
Warminster floor malted maris otter
Best pils
Weyermann or Best munich
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: AmandaK on February 03, 2014, 12:54:09 PM
Considering I now have 5 bulk base grains in stock, I'll have to pick my favorites.

Best Malz Pils
Best Malz Munich I
Crisp Maris Otter


I also keep Castle Belgian Pilsner and Rahr 2 row on hand. I may pick up a sack of TF Golden Promise as well. You know, for variety's sake.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: kmccaf on February 03, 2014, 01:48:11 PM
Best Malz Pils
TF Maris Otter
Colorado Malting Co. Rye Malt (Because I put rye in basically everything these days, and I have been really loving this one. Wyermann Munich would be high up on my list as well.)

Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: klickitat jim on February 03, 2014, 01:53:14 PM
Only 3? I'd quit brewing.

Ok, pils pale and Munich. And I'd hide the rest and claim I was making it myself.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: hopfenundmalz on February 03, 2014, 03:00:19 PM
I could not keep it to 3.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: klickitat jim on February 03, 2014, 03:04:16 PM
Me either. Sheesh, I have like twelve kinds of pepper for Pete's sake. What's next? You can only have three wives?
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: Pinski on February 03, 2014, 03:25:25 PM
Me either. Sheesh, I have like twelve kinds of pepper for Pete's sake. What's next? You can only have three wives?

Interesting tangent Jim, yep top three, let's hear 'em.  ;)
We grew 11 varieties of pepper last year so I'm with you there.
The reason I asked about the grain is that because I'm fortunate to live close to a great LHBS that moves a lot of product and most of my  brews are planned a week or two in advance so it's not an issue to stop in on the way home and get ingredients. They also added a tasing room so there's that and we've become friends over the years as well. So, I've been reluctant to store grain at home when I generally have easy access to exactly what I need on demand. Occasionally though, one of my favorites (typically continental) isn't available and I have to adjust. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Again just looking to learn about what folks love to use and why.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: dkfick on February 03, 2014, 03:28:29 PM
I mostly store bulk grain because I'm A) Lazy and don't feel like going to the LHBS and B) Cheap.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: klickitat jim on February 03, 2014, 03:40:25 PM
Me either. Sheesh, I have like twelve kinds of pepper for Pete's sake. What's next? You can only have three wives?

Interesting tangent Jim, yep top three, let's hear 'em.  ;)
We grew 11 varieties of pepper last year so I'm with you there.
The reason I asked about the grain is that because I'm fortunate to live close to a great LHBS that moves a lot of product and most of my  brews are planned a week or two in advance so it's not an issue to stop in on the way home and get ingredients. They also added a tasing room so there's that and we've become friends over the years as well. So, I've been reluctant to store grain at home when I generally have easy access to exactly what I need on demand. Occasionally though, one of my favorites (typically continental) isn't available and I have to adjust. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Again just looking to learn about what folks love to use and why.
Is it in Gresham?
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: Pinski on February 03, 2014, 03:46:04 PM
No, Brew Brothers in Hillsboro. Give them a try.  Great family run business.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: denny on February 03, 2014, 04:13:30 PM
1. Best pils
2. Best Munich II
3. Rahr 2 row pale
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: denny on February 03, 2014, 04:14:57 PM
1) Warminster MO
2) Best Pilsner
3) Briess 2 row

Gotta admit that Briess wouldn't make my top 20! 
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: dkfick on February 03, 2014, 04:20:20 PM
I'm not a fan of rahr or gambrinus so for just plain ole 2-row briess is my choice.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: denny on February 03, 2014, 04:25:10 PM
I'm not a fan of rahr or gambrinus so for just plain ole 2-row briess is my choice.

Whatever floats yer boat!  My experience with Gambrinus is that it's the worst I've ever used with Briess a close second.  I know a lot of people will disagree with that.  I get the best flavor and efficiency with Rahr, followed closely by Great western.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: dkfick on February 03, 2014, 04:27:54 PM
I'm not a fan of rahr or gambrinus so for just plain ole 2-row briess is my choice.

Whatever floats yer boat!  My experience with Gambrinus is that it's the worst I've ever used with Briess a close second.  I know a lot of people will disagree with that.  I get the best flavor and efficiency with Rahr, followed closely by Great western.
I do use Canadian Malting Company's 2-row pretty frequently as well... about the same as Briess for me.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: HoosierBrew on February 03, 2014, 04:54:58 PM
I'm not a fan of rahr or gambrinus so for just plain ole 2-row briess is my choice.

Whatever floats yer boat!  My experience with Gambrinus is that it's the worst I've ever used with Briess a close second.  I know a lot of people will disagree with that.  I get the best flavor and efficiency with Rahr, followed closely by Great western.

+1. I prefer Rahr for American styles.  And as Martin mentioned, I like the fact that it appears to be more acidic than other American 2 rows. Does some of the pH work for you in pale styles.


EDIT - Here was Martin's post on that  :   https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=14478.15
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: blatz on February 03, 2014, 05:14:55 PM
1. Best pils
2. Best Munich II
3. Rahr 2 row pale

same here.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: AmandaK on February 03, 2014, 05:38:31 PM
1) Warminster MO
2) Best Pilsner
3) Briess 2 row

Gotta admit that Briess wouldn't make my top 20!

I'm glad I'm not the only one! Their Munich malt is a joke. Tastes like 2-row.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: hopfenundmalz on February 03, 2014, 05:41:15 PM
I use a bag of Briess 6 row every year. Some of the well know area breweries use Briess. Just saying.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: denny on February 03, 2014, 06:08:17 PM
I use a bag of Briess 6 row every year. Some of the well know area breweries use Briess. Just saying.

Briess 6 row is fine.  I'm well aware of the fact that a lot of commercial Midwestern breweries use Briess.  Their mistake...;)
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: beersk on February 03, 2014, 06:40:01 PM
1) Warminster MO
2) Best Pilsner
3) Briess 2 row

Gotta admit that Briess wouldn't make my top 20!

I'm glad I'm not the only one! Their Munich malt is a joke. Tastes like 2-row.
I don't know about that. But it certainly is a bit different than regular munich. I think it has a much more pronounced toasty/biscuity flavor.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: klickitat jim on February 04, 2014, 06:23:40 AM
I'm a Great Western fan for Pale Washington Select and just started using their Pils.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: hopfenundmalz on February 04, 2014, 12:58:32 PM
I use a bag of Briess 6 row every year. Some of the well know area breweries use Briess. Just saying.

Briess 6 row is fine.  I'm well aware of the fact that a lot of commercial Midwestern breweries use Briess.  Their mistake...;)
In June you will be able to drink their mistakes.

I will say that I have started to use Rahr 2 row for American style ales.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: scottNU on February 04, 2014, 02:22:31 PM
1. Rahr 2-row
2. Warminster MO

Everything else is a buy-as-needed.  I kind of like the having the need to stop by the LHBS to fill out a grain bill.  It feels the same as poking around a hardware store.  I never knew how much I needed this thing I wasn't looking for...
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: majorvices on February 04, 2014, 02:43:17 PM
If I had to choose only 3 it would be

Best Pils
Best Munich (I and II, sorry, it has to be that way)
Thomas Faucett Maris Otter
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: euge on February 05, 2014, 06:29:05 PM
Right now any sort of pils malt. And that's it. One.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: chumley on February 12, 2014, 04:22:07 PM
I agree with euge.  I have lots of sacks of malt, but I am always running out of pils.  I think it has something to do with the fact that I like to brew lagers and Belgians.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: coolman26 on February 15, 2014, 06:07:06 PM
Anyone use domestic pils?  I'd love to find a decent domestic pils.  I have a hard time getting Best, which is my favorite.
 
1. Best Pils
2. Rahr 2-Row
3. TF MO
4. Avoid Breiss at all costs.  Hands down my least favorite Base

Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: klickitat jim on February 15, 2014, 11:32:20 PM
I use Great Western pils for all of my lagers. Premium American Lager, Vienna Lager and Oktoberfest. Probably a Dopplebock soon. Its good, I like it, but I wouldn't try to do the beers that really need continental pils or don't have a lot of specialty to hide behind.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: Rhoobarb on February 16, 2014, 04:03:50 AM
For the longest time it was:
Fawcett or Crisp Maris Otter
Best Pils
Weyermann Munich

But just recently I decided my staples would now be:
Rahr 2 row
Crisp Maris Otter
Weyermann Munich
...and, when needed, Best Pils

Also, put me in the camp that isn't crazy about Briess.  I lived in the Midwest for 30+ years until three years ago and for ever commercial brewery there that uses Briess, there is another that uses Rahr.  In fact, my first AG batch in 2005 was brewed with 88% Rahr 2 row.  I got a bag b/c my local brewery, which also had a HBS attached, used it and sold it to me. :)
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: fmader on February 16, 2014, 01:36:28 PM
Seems like Rahr is much preferred than Briess here. I think I bought one kit back in the day that had Rahr two row. I think that was the only time I've used it. Nobody carries Rahr around here.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: Scot (one T) on February 16, 2014, 03:50:50 PM
1. Rahr 2 row
2. Weyermann's Pils
3. Crisp Maris Otter
4. Weyermann's Munich
I've also began using Rahr pils for APA's and Ipa's.   I stick with the Weyermann's for German styles.
Title: Re: If you had to choose only 3...
Post by: chumley on February 17, 2014, 04:30:18 PM
I have made CAPs with Malteurop 2-row (despite its name, its grown and malted in Montana), and they have come out great.