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Title: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: blazer7 on February 26, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
Hey guys, I'm letting my wort cool right now and waiting to pitch my yeast and then into my fermenter.  My question is, should I filter this through anything to get the hops and left over grains that shifted from the muslin bag into the batch, or just let them settle out? 
Sorry it seems like a dumb question, but I REALLY dont want to screw this up. :o
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: garc_mall on February 26, 2014, 08:10:08 PM
Let it settle.

I would try to pick up as little as possible, but not sweat it (I use a siphon). However, when rushed, I have dumped the entire kettle through a sanitized strainer to catch the hops, and it turned out fine.

A small amount of trub is beneficial, and too much only really interferes with yeast harvesting.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: blazer7 on February 26, 2014, 08:13:57 PM
Thank you.  My thought to let it settle and do the best I could, but i wasnt sure about getting too much hops in the fermenter.  Hey, what's the worst that can happen.... I brew another batch and learn from this...?  Thanks again, I'm waiting for my temp to hit 80 or less.... sitting at 90 right now.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: theDarkSide on February 26, 2014, 08:18:54 PM
Since you're at 90 right now, take a sanitized spoon and stir the wort, creating a whirlpool.  This will help accomplish a couple things.  One, all or most of the hops/grain should form in the center once the whirlpool settles.  Then you can siphon from the side of the kettle.  Second, it will help bring the temp down a bit. Lastly, it will aerate the wort some (you should still aerate in the fermenter though, either by shaking or using some other aeration method).

You can whirlpool as long as you want, but a minute or two should be enough. 

Congrats on your first batch!!
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: morticaixavier on February 26, 2014, 08:40:40 PM
I'll add:

I know you want to pitch that yeast right away, it's just burning a hole in your pocket (packet?) but wait, just back off and let that wort get down to 65* you might have to put the kettle in an ice bath to do it but it will make SUCH better beer than pitching at 80*.

Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: klickitat jim on February 26, 2014, 08:43:22 PM
+ a bazillion
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: HoosierBrew on February 26, 2014, 08:44:53 PM
+2.5  bazillion
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: blazer7 on February 26, 2014, 08:50:43 PM
hmmm..... I pitched at 76.  And yes it was killing me.  I was dying to get it in there and get it going.  Well, damage is done.  Here's a few specs:

Oatmeal Stout from Midwest Brew
All went fine except it did boil up pretty high after the hops addition.  no boil over but enough to spread hops all over the inside of the pot.  I tried to scrape the pot and put them back in best i could.  anyway...
It took about 1/2 hour to cool in the laundry tub with the ice.  Pulled it out at 78 degrees and tried to "decant" it into the fermenter.  I felt this did a pretty good job of aeration.  Added my yeast took a Hydro reading.  1.047 at 76deg.  She's all capped, airlocked and I'm trying to find best place to put her.  Wish me luck
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: morticaixavier on February 26, 2014, 08:52:41 PM
luck!

it'll be okay, try your best to get that temp down some more now though, there is still time! It's not ideal but it will still help. get the fermenter back in the laundry sink with more ice water and keep things moving with a sanitized spoon for the next 20 minutes.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: denny on February 26, 2014, 09:01:37 PM
+2.5  bazillion

+ 1.060 bazillion!
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: theDarkSide on February 26, 2014, 09:11:33 PM
+2.5  bazillion

+ 1.060 bazillion!

1.047 Bazinga!

Hey!!!! You Made Beer!!!  Woohoo!!
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: klickitat jim on February 27, 2014, 01:22:41 AM
Looking for a place to put it? I suggest somewhere that you'll be comfortable because you'll be in there watching it for the next three weeks: -)
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: 69franx on February 27, 2014, 03:47:13 PM
Looking for a place to put it? I suggest somewhere that you'll be comfortable because you'll be in there watching it for the next three weeks: -)
Ain't that the truth. 7th batch fermenting as expected, FG right on point even though OG was a little low. Dry hopping now, and again tonight. Gonna be dying to bottle til Monday after work. Then 2-4 weeks conditioning. I really want to drink this now. As Jim said, get comfy but let it be and do its thing. First couple batches I was too eager and now know the mistakes I made in fermentation rushes. Don't rush it. The recipe likely does not call for enough time to get the job done, live by your hydro readings, not the recipe or airlock activity.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: Wheat_Brewer on February 28, 2014, 07:41:27 PM
Congrats on the first batch!! You'll have to report back with your first taste impressions and first batch experience(s).
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: euge on March 01, 2014, 02:28:40 AM
Welcome to the hobby, obsession.... Try some in about a week and see how it tastes. If it it tastes hot or solvent-like dump it and start again.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: duboman on March 01, 2014, 02:57:16 AM
Congrats!

I'd only add at this point that you'd like the beer to ferment around 65-68 beer temp, not ambient.

You mentioned a tub, keep the vessel in that with water to buffer temps, if necessary you can add frozen water bottles to keep it cool, this will give you a nice clean ferment.

Cheers on the first beer!
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: klickitat jim on March 01, 2014, 04:39:04 AM
Welcome to the hobby, obsession.... Try some in about a week and see how it tastes. If it it tastes hot or solvent-like dump it and start again.

Kudos to brewers who have the ability to dump. I rarely do, but I have. Some may remember me dumping my Wiener Quad. I've also dumped a partial keg of mediocre to make room for awesome. I refuse to gag down mistakes.

Ironic, because Denny has a couple bottles from batches just before my latest sharp learning curve. I would dump those compared to anything I'm making now.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: ranchovillabrew on March 01, 2014, 05:28:04 AM
The last beer I dumped was a spiced Christmas beer that was chilling with a floating thermometer in it. It was getting close to pitching temp and the thermometer broke sending glass and the metal shot (lead? ) into the wort.  I dumped and rebrewed.  Made a 5 hour brew day into about a 10 hour day.

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Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: ranchovillabrew on March 01, 2014, 05:28:37 AM
I called my rebrewed unleaded

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Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: blazer7 on March 02, 2014, 12:10:02 AM
Thanks all for the advice.  As with everything else.... the first time around is a learning experiance.  I will say I did put the fermenter back in the tub with ice and let it cool for a good while.  Right now it's in my front closet.  1st off, I noticed my airlock still dormant.  I did some searches and found that my hydrometer is the way to test fermentation not airlock.... but it still makes me nervous.  2nd, I live it S Fl and have NOWHERE to keep anything below 70 with out purchasing a dedicated fridge (wife would kill me).  It's in my closet right now and the house stays about 77 but the tile floor in the dark closet my stay at 76.  Well see....

But! Whats a good time frame to take a good first hyrdo reading to make sure I have progress?
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: euge on March 02, 2014, 12:32:31 AM
Around seven days.

In  Texas we have similar issues. I was never really happy until getting a chest freezer and controller. I'm dedicated though. The tub will work well enough. You'll dial it in.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: jaftak22 on March 02, 2014, 12:47:17 AM
Put your carboy or bucket in a nice dark cool closet if you don't have a fermentation chamber. I do most ale type beers like that. Just done do what I did on my first batch and check the gravity every day for a week and a half. Just let it do it's thing.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: ynotbrusum on March 02, 2014, 12:37:20 PM
Welcome to the best years of your life!  For temperature control you might want to consider searching swamp cooler and also consider heading to Home Depot for a coil of copper to make an immersion chiller.  Next to sanitation, temperature control is pretty important in the early stage of fermentation.  That said, this beer will still be the best beer you have ever made!
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: blazer7 on March 05, 2014, 02:57:02 PM
well, I have bad news!  All the advice from everyone has been great and well noted.  But something has gone wrong.  I checked my hydro after a week and found mold/spore/bacteria floating on the top of my much awaited batch.  I'm crushed... I thought for sure I had everything cleaned/sanitized very well.  Live and learn I guess.  Gonna order another extract kit today, unless by some miracle you guys says this  can be saved, which I really doubt

I have a pic but can't figure out how to post it.  I click the insert image button and it gives me html tags and now way to browse and upload.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: reverseapachemaster on March 05, 2014, 03:05:09 PM
I think you have to upload to photobucket or something and then link in to the picture here.

Could be yeast or floating krausen leftovers. You're not always going to have a perfectly clear beer on top. Doesn't mean the beer is ruined but you shouldn't jump right to assuming it is infected.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: morticaixavier on March 05, 2014, 03:31:13 PM
well, I have bad news!  All the advice from everyone has been great and well noted.  But something has gone wrong.  I checked my hydro after a week and found mold/spore/bacteria floating on the top of my much awaited batch.  I'm crushed... I thought for sure I had everything cleaned/sanitized very well.  Live and learn I guess.  Gonna order another extract kit today, unless by some miracle you guys says this  can be saved, which I really doubt

I have a pic but can't figure out how to post it.  I click the insert image button and it gives me html tags and now way to browse and upload.

the photo has to be hosted elsewhere. I use flickr or tapatalk on my phone.

Click the mona lisa icon and insert the address of the photo like this (I broke the code a bit so you could see it.)
img]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7410/10506070514_848e5a103c.jpg[/img]

and you get...
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7410/10506070514_848e5a103c.jpg)
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: flbrewer on March 05, 2014, 04:47:59 PM

I'll add:

I know you want to pitch that yeast right away, it's just burning a hole in your pocket (packet?) but wait, just back off and let that wort get down to 65* you might have to put the kettle in an ice bath to do it but it will make SUCH better beer than pitching at 80*.
+1. Wait wait and wait. I brewed a couple of one gallon batches recently and pitched too warm. Ended up w some funky cider smelling beer.


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Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: garc_mall on March 05, 2014, 05:00:03 PM
well, I have bad news!  All the advice from everyone has been great and well noted.  But something has gone wrong.  I checked my hydro after a week and found mold/spore/bacteria floating on the top of my much awaited batch.  I'm crushed... I thought for sure I had everything cleaned/sanitized very well.  Live and learn I guess.  Gonna order another extract kit today, unless by some miracle you guys says this  can be saved, which I really doubt

I have a pic but can't figure out how to post it.  I click the insert image button and it gives me html tags and now way to browse and upload.

If you can, after posting the picture here (after falling, Kraeusen looks funky sometimes), I would see if you can siphon out a sample from underneath the floaties. If it still tastes good, you should be able to bottle it, as long as you can keep the bottles cold after they carbonate, you shouldn't have to worry about bottle bombs.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: Untied Brewing on March 05, 2014, 09:47:52 PM
I'm worried you may have taken too long to cool your wort in the first place. Perhaps something fell in if it didn't have it mostly covered while in the tub. Definitely get that picture up: it might not be anything bad..
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: morticaixavier on March 05, 2014, 10:15:51 PM
I'm worried you may have taken too long to cool your wort in the first place. Perhaps something fell in if it didn't have it mostly covered while in the tub. Definitely get that picture up: it might not be anything bad..

I doubt very much it's because of the time chilling. I routinely put my wort in the fridge for 12-24 hours before pitching to get down to temp with no infections except the ones I meant.
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: ynotbrusum on March 06, 2014, 12:39:15 PM
If it is an infection, be sure to clean the fermenter very well (like soaking overnight in PBW, then rinse then soak in star San solution) before using again!  And also your tubing, racking cane and anything else that came in contact with that batch!
Title: Re: FIRST homebrew batch....
Post by: el_capitan on March 07, 2014, 04:27:32 AM
If it is an infection, be sure to clean the fermenter very well (like soaking overnight in PBW, then rinse then soak in star San solution) before using again!  And also your tubing, racking cane and anything else that came in contact with that batch!

Also, make certain that you're not scratching your equipment as you clean.  Don't get all crazy with the scrubbing and abrasives, since cracks and scratches can harbor bacteria.  Just give it a good soak and clean with a soft cloth or your bare hands as needed.