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Title: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: yso191 on April 01, 2014, 05:00:37 PM
Following up on the 2 hops thread, here is your opportunity to vote for your favorite bittering hop in the context of American IPA's.  I encourage you to post why you voted the way you did.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: garc_mall on April 01, 2014, 05:07:29 PM
I don't do too much bittering in an IPA (I like FWH, 10, 5, and flameout), but I like CTZ for the harsher bitterness that I expect in an IPA.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: duboman on April 01, 2014, 05:12:59 PM
I like warrior, I find it provides a nice clean bitter to my beers either as a FWH or traditional addition
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: chezteth on April 01, 2014, 05:15:46 PM
I really like warrior for bittering an American IPA. I prefer the smooth, clean bitterness it adds.

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Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: tschmidlin on April 01, 2014, 05:24:36 PM
I like warrior too, but I voted for CTZ on this list because some of these I would not put in an IPA and others would be a waste for bittering.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: denny on April 01, 2014, 05:30:29 PM
Chinook is on the list twice, but I could only vote for it once!  :)
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: goschman on April 01, 2014, 05:39:58 PM
I use Magnum for bittering in everything except IPA where I use Columbus.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: blatz on April 01, 2014, 05:51:46 PM
Chinook is on the list twice, but I could only vote for it once!  :)

i voted for the other chinook
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: Stevie on April 01, 2014, 05:54:12 PM
I use a lot of Nugget for bittering. Got a pound and need to use it.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: Alewyfe on April 01, 2014, 06:08:07 PM
Yup, I use Nugget too. I have been using a lot of Galena and like it. The thing is, all the hops on that list would work given the right time:amount and that is what keeps brewing so much fun....the permutations are endless.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: kmccaf on April 01, 2014, 06:26:25 PM
I voted for CTZ, but one that is not on there that I use all the time is Perle. I like the range the AA is in for my needs, and the kind of bitterness it gives. CTZ works wonderfully for my IPAs as well.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: fmader on April 01, 2014, 06:30:21 PM
I voted Columbus. I love the "dankness" that it adds to an AIPA. I feel that it is more dynamic that the traditional bittering hops, which makes it fit this category for me. Chinook is also good, but Columbus takes it. Often times, I'll combine the two.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: jweiss206 on April 01, 2014, 06:45:28 PM
I use Galena in my go to IPA recipe. I've found that it complements the citrus hops I prefer very well.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: yso191 on April 01, 2014, 07:11:58 PM
I removed the second chinook and added the one vote it received to the first chinook.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: gmac on April 01, 2014, 07:44:04 PM
Magnum is easiest for me to find.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 01, 2014, 07:49:36 PM
I like Columbus and Chinook pretty interchangeably for a pleasantly coarse IPA bitterness. Occasionally I'll use Warrior for a smoother bitterness if I use more late/dry hops than usual, but normally it's the former two.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: erockrph on April 02, 2014, 12:10:38 AM
I like Columbus and Chinook pretty interchangeably for a pleasantly coarse IPA bitterness.

+1 - If I use a bittering addition, then it's usually one of the above. I use Nugget as well - it's not quite as coarse, but not as smooth as something like Magnum.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: reverseapachemaster on April 02, 2014, 01:57:49 PM
I bought two pounds of Belma when they were first released so I've been using Belma to bitter all of my beers until I run out of the stuff.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: hopfenundmalz on April 02, 2014, 02:28:54 PM
I vote CTZ, but I also use Centennial for bittering a few IPAs.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: erockrph on April 02, 2014, 05:48:58 PM
I bought two pounds of Belma when they were first released so I've been using Belma to bitter all of my beers until I run out of the stuff.

Yeah, I don't know what I'm going to do with the other 15 ounces I have left from the pound I bought. Not horrible, but nothing I have any real use for either.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: yso191 on April 02, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
I tried Belma too.  It is high enough in AA (10.4%) to be a bittering hop, but I was intrigued by the flavors ("very orange, slight grapefruit, tropical  pineapple, strawberry, and melon aroma.").  Unfortunately at only .8 for total oils you'd have to use a lot of it.  So it is now in the category of 'meh'.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: erockrph on April 03, 2014, 03:36:29 AM
I tried Belma too.  It is high enough in AA (10.4%) to be a bittering hop, but I was intrigued by the flavors ("very orange, slight grapefruit, tropical  pineapple, strawberry, and melon aroma.").  Unfortunately at only .08 for total oils you'd have to use a lot of it.  So it is now in the category of 'meh'.

I think you mean 0.8, right? Which is still pretty low for a modern IPA hop. And total oils isn't the final word. For example, Centennial has more total oil than Mosaic, but Mosaic is a much more dominant hop (at least to my palate). If Belma is truly 0.8 mL/100g oil, then that's the same as Motueka, which has a lot more flavor/aroma impact in my experience.

Total oil is a good starting point, but there is certainly a lot more going on that we just don't see good data for (or even understand yet).

Maybe I'll have to just use up all of my Belma in a small batch to see what happens if you really push the limits.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: el_capitan on April 03, 2014, 03:40:54 AM
I was also looking for Warrior.  That's been a great all-purpose bittering hop for me. 

My house IPA is made with all homegrown hops, and I like the Zeus quite a bit in that, so that's where I voted. 
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: redbeerman on April 03, 2014, 01:48:16 PM
I use CTZ most of the time.  When I'm not using that, it's usually Chinook.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: yso191 on April 03, 2014, 04:07:55 PM
I tried Belma too.  It is high enough in AA (10.4%) to be a bittering hop, but I was intrigued by the flavors ("very orange, slight grapefruit, tropical  pineapple, strawberry, and melon aroma.").  Unfortunately at only .08 for total oils you'd have to use a lot of it.  So it is now in the category of 'meh'.

I think you mean 0.8, right? Which is still pretty low for a modern IPA hop. And total oils isn't the final word. For example, Centennial has more total oil than Mosaic, but Mosaic is a much more dominant hop (at least to my palate). If Belma is truly 0.8 mL/100g oil, then that's the same as Motueka, which has a lot more flavor/aroma impact in my experience.

Total oil is a good starting point, but there is certainly a lot more going on that we just don't see good data for (or even understand yet).

Maybe I'll have to just use up all of my Belma in a small batch to see what happens if you really push the limits.

Yike.  Good thing I'm not a lawyer.  Yes I do mean .8 for total oils.  And I will edit my post to reflect that.  Thanks for the catch.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: chumley on April 03, 2014, 04:32:51 PM
I like Chinook and Warrior.  Another favorite not mentioned is Horizon.

I can't believe there are so many CTZ fans out there.  "Dank" is the perfect descriptor for that hop.
Title: Re: Favorite Bittering hop for AIPA
Post by: 69franx on April 08, 2014, 04:37:26 PM
Still early in my brewing career, but of the 3 IPA's I have made(of 7 batches), all 3 used Columbus as the bittering charge. All 3 were nice and bitter, but the flavor components really have made the difference for my batches.